[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL 7 - Packages that won't install - Pass 1

2019-10-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 14:47, Troy Dawson  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:46 AM Robert-André Mauchin  
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:22:11 CEST Troy Dawson wrote:
> > > * golang-*-devel (Not really broken, you should never need to install 
> > > these)
> > > ** I will not file bugzilla's on these.  These -devel packages are only
> > > used for rpm making.
> > > golang-github-aws-aws-sdk-go-devel
> > > golang-github-coreos-go-log-devel
> > > golang-github-goraft-raft-devel
> > > golang-github-rackspace-gophercloud-devel
> > > golang-github-spacemonkeygo-spacelog-devel
> > > golang-golangorg-oauth2-devel
> > > golang-google-golangorg-cloud-devel
> >
> > Eh, who's taking care of the Golang stack in RHEL8? These are old packages, 
> > it
> > would have been better to use the stack we rebuilt in F31 which is known to 
> > be
> > working and up to date. Anything before is probably broken.
> >
>
> These are from EPEL7, not 8.
> As far as I can tell, there aren't any golang library packages in EPEL8.

As far as I can tell there aren't any in EPEL-8 either.


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[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL 7 - Packages that won't install - Pass 1

2019-10-10 Thread Troy Dawson
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:46 AM Robert-André Mauchin  wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:22:11 CEST Troy Dawson wrote:
> > * golang-*-devel (Not really broken, you should never need to install these)
> > ** I will not file bugzilla's on these.  These -devel packages are only
> > used for rpm making.
> > golang-github-aws-aws-sdk-go-devel
> > golang-github-coreos-go-log-devel
> > golang-github-goraft-raft-devel
> > golang-github-rackspace-gophercloud-devel
> > golang-github-spacemonkeygo-spacelog-devel
> > golang-golangorg-oauth2-devel
> > golang-google-golangorg-cloud-devel
>
> Eh, who's taking care of the Golang stack in RHEL8? These are old packages, it
> would have been better to use the stack we rebuilt in F31 which is known to be
> working and up to date. Anything before is probably broken.
>

These are from EPEL7, not 8.
As far as I can tell, there aren't any golang library packages in EPEL8.

Troy
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[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2019-10-10 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
  11  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-4ca0c60e5b   
mbedtls-2.16.3-1.el8
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-04183e6fbf   
scapy-2.4.3-2.el8
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-1c488e885d   
python-ecdsa-0.13.3-1.el8


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing

chromium-77.0.3865.90-3.el8
fstrm-0.5.0-1.el8
libcutl-1.10.0-17.el8
libtorrent-0.13.8-1.el8
ntfs-3g-2017.3.23-11.el8
ntfs-3g-system-compression-1.0-2.el8
perl-Image-ExifTool-11.70-1.el8
perl-Net-SSLGlue-1.058-10.el8
perl-XML-TreePP-0.43-13.el8
po-debconf-1.0.21-1.el8
quotatool-1.6.2-13.el8
rtorrent-0.9.8-1.el8

Details about builds:



 chromium-77.0.3865.90-3.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-ca762fcbf8)
 A WebKit (Blink) powered web browser

Update Information:

Build for EPEL-8.




 fstrm-0.5.0-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-a4e1f3ebc6)
 Frame Streams implementation in C

Update Information:

fstrm 0.5.0 for epel8

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1760298 - Please build packagges for EPEL8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1760298




 libcutl-1.10.0-17.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-a703e6c6ac)
 C++ utility library from Code Synthesis

Update Information:

- New package

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1754200 - Rebuild on epel8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754200




 libtorrent-0.13.8-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-d09d39de3a)
 BitTorrent library with a focus on high performance & good code

Update Information:

libtorrent: 0.13.8 release  rtorrent: 0.9.8 release

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1760099 - [RFE] EPEL8 branch of libtorrent
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1760099
  [ 2 ] Bug #1757080 - rtorrent is missing for EPEL8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1757080




 ntfs-3g-2017.3.23-11.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-44ed272dbd)
 Linux NTFS userspace driver

Update Information:

Build ntfs-3g and ntfs-3g-system-compression for EPEL-8.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1759987 - Request to package ntfs-3g for EPEL 8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1759987




 ntfs-3g-system-compression-1.0-2.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-44ed272dbd)
 NTFS-3G plugin for reading "system compressed" files

Update Information:

Build ntfs-3g and ntfs-3g-system-compression for EPEL-8.

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1759987 - Request to package ntfs-3g for EPEL 8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1759987




 perl-Image-ExifTool-11.70-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-6097899ea8)
 Utility for reading and writing image meta info

Update Information:

New build for EPEL-8.




 perl-Net-SSLGlue-1.058-10.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-15c5df941d)
 Add/extend SSL support for common perl modules
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[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

2019-10-10 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 421  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2018-3c9292b62d   
condor-8.6.11-1.el7
 163  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-c499781e80   
python-gnupg-0.4.4-1.el7
 161  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-bc0182548b   
bubblewrap-0.3.3-2.el7
  97  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-12067fc897   
dosbox-0.74.3-2.el7
  12  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-600b4ad49c   
yara-3.10.0-3.el7
  11  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-8b6b5df244   
mbedtls-2.7.12-1.el7
   8  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-180a83b5fc   
suricata-4.1.5-3.el7
   5  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-6ca75fc39a   
nginx-1.16.1-1.el7
   5  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-b69e8f60ca   
libapreq2-2.13-13.el7
   5  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-40a9ceccd5   
radare2-3.9.0-1.el7.1
   5  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-3bcbd2f338   
opendmarc-1.3.2-1.el7
   4  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-4e8faaa263   
python34-3.4.10-4.el7
   4  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-301b621e07   
golang-1.13.1-1.el7
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-86a4692b13   
scapy-2.4.3-2.el7
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-ef109e65c0   
python-ecdsa-0.13.3-1.el7
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-35adef43f8   
koji-1.18.1-1.el7


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing

libfm-qt-0.14.1-5.el7
liblxqt-0.14.1-5.el7
libqtxdg-3.3.1-5.el7
libsysstat-0.4.2-3.el7
lximage-qt-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-about-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-admin-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-build-tools-0.6.0-3.el7
lxqt-config-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-globalkeys-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-notificationd-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-openssh-askpass-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-panel-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-policykit-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-powermanagement-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-qtplugin-0.14.0-7.el7
lxqt-runner-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-session-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-sudo-0.14.1-3.el7
lxqt-themes-0.14.0-3.el7
menu-cache-1.1.0-1.el7.5
obconf-qt-0.14.1-3.el7
openbox-theme-mistral-thin-0-6.20170125.el7
pavucontrol-qt-0.14.1-3.el7
pcmanfm-qt-0.14.1-3.el7
perl-Image-ExifTool-11.70-1.el7
qterminal-0.14.1-3.el7
qtermwidget-0.14.1-3.el7
wabt-1.0.12-1.el7

Details about builds:



 libfm-qt-0.14.1-5.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2019-18ce705d1b)
 Companion library for PCManFM

Update Information:

LXQt 0.14 for epel7    LxQt 0.11.0

ChangeLog:

* Fri Sep 20 2019 Zamir SUN  - 0.14.1-5
- Improve compatibility with epel7
* Thu Jul 25 2019 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0.14.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jun 17 2019 Jan Grulich  - 0.14.1-3
- rebuild (qt5)
* Wed Jun  5 2019 Jan Grulich  - 0.14.1-2
- rebuild (qt5)
* Mon Apr 15 2019 Zamir SUN  - 0.14.1-1
- Update to version 0.14.1
* Mon Mar  4 2019 Kevin Kofler  - 0.14.0-3
- Rebuild for Qt 5.12.1
* Wed Feb 13 2019 Zamir SUN  - 0.14.0-2
- Add l10n sub package
* Wed Feb 13 2019 Zamir SUN   - 0.14.0-1
- Prepare for LXQt 0.14.0
* Fri Feb  1 2019 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0.13.1-4
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_30_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Dec 13 2018 Rex Dieter  - 0.13.1-3
- rebuild (qt5)
* Fri Sep 21 2018 Jan Grulich  - 0.13.1-2
- rebuild (qt5)
* Thu Aug  9 2018 Zamir SUN  - 0.13.1-1
- Update to 0.13.1
* Fri Aug  3 2018 Zamir SUN  - 0.13.0-2
- Add menu-cache-devel as Require, otherwise cmake report 'Imported target 
"fm-qt" includes non-existent path'
* Fri Aug  3 2018 Zamir SUN  - 0.13.0-1
- Update to version 0.13.0
* Fri Jul 13 2018 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0.11.2-14
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_29_Mass_Rebuild
* Thu Jun 21 2018 Rex Dieter  - 0.11.2-13
- rebuild (qt5)
* Sun May 27 2018 Rex Dieter  - 0.11.2-12
- rebuild (qt5)
* Wed Feb 14 2018 Jan Grulich  - 0.11.2-11
- rebuild (qt5)
* Wed Feb  7 2018 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0.11.2-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jan  1 2018 Rex Dieter  - 0.11.2-9
- rebuild (qt5)
* Sun Nov 26 2017 Rex Dieter  - 0.11.2-8
- rebuild (qt5)
* Wed Oct 11 2017 Rex Dieter  - 0.11.2-7
- BR: qt5-qtbase-private-devel
* Thu Aug  3 2017 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0.11.2-6
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Binutils_Mass_Rebuild
* Wed Jul 26 2017 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0.11.2-5
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Mass_Rebuild
* Fri Feb

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL 7 - Packages that won't install - Pass 1

2019-10-10 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:22:11 CEST Troy Dawson wrote:
> * golang-*-devel (Not really broken, you should never need to install these)
> ** I will not file bugzilla's on these.  These -devel packages are only
> used for rpm making.
> golang-github-aws-aws-sdk-go-devel
> golang-github-coreos-go-log-devel
> golang-github-goraft-raft-devel
> golang-github-rackspace-gophercloud-devel
> golang-github-spacemonkeygo-spacelog-devel
> golang-golangorg-oauth2-devel
> golang-google-golangorg-cloud-devel

Eh, who's taking care of the Golang stack in RHEL8? These are old packages, it 
would have been better to use the stack we rebuilt in F31 which is known to be 
working and up to date. Anything before is probably broken.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: A plan regarding SCLs in EPEL 8

2019-10-10 Thread Merlin Mathesius
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:05 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:16:47PM -0500, Merlin Mathesius wrote:
> > I was asked to draft a plan stating what EPEL 8 should do regarding
> > Software Collections. The draft I came up with is included below.
>
> Looks good to me. +1 here.
>
> > EPEL Steering Committee: Please ratify this plan or provide feedback as
> > necessary. When it's ready, and I will prepare a PR for this to land in
> > https://pagure.io/epel/blob/master/f/docs/source
>
> That would be great...
>

Thanks!

Anyone else?

I went ahead and created https://pagure.io/epel/pull-request/81

Merlin


> kevin
> --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Merlin
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > *Regarding EPEL and Software Collections*
> > *Background*
> >
> > For RHEL 8, Red Hat made the decision to provide multiple versions of
> > software in the form of App Stream modules instead of Red Hat Software
> > Collections (RHSCLs).
> >
> > SCLs are maintained by the CentOS Software Collections SIG, not the EPEL
> > SIG.
> >
> > RHEL 8 comes with the scl-utils and scl-utils-build packages--which
> contain
> > tools for using and building SCLs. These packages appear to function as
> > expected with RHEL 8 and CentOS 8.
> >
> > *Recommendations*
> >
> > EPEL will not provide SCL support, although it will not prohibit use of
> the
> > SCL tools provided with RHEL 8.
> >
> > EPEL will not provide any SCLs.
> >
> > EPEL encourages the community to follow Red Hat’s lead and provide
> multiple
> > versions of software for RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 in the form of modules
> rather
> > than SCLs.
> >
> > For use cases that require the parallel installation of multiple versions
> > of the same component, EPEL recommends the same solution as RHEL 8:
> > containers.
> >
> > --
>
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[EPEL-devel] Re: A plan regarding SCLs in EPEL 8

2019-10-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 04:04, LAHAYE Olivier  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> What is the strategy regarding packages like nextcould that has a major 
> update every 5/6 months?
> I mean, regarding incompatible upgrades policy.
>

The incompatible upgrades policy was something we could never really
enforce and so is a gentleman's agreement that it won't happen. [I
thought I also removed all references to it on our policies but seem
to have missed it somewhere.]

The problem is that EPEL is a volunteer group. No one is assigned to
work permanently on making EPEL work. It is done by people who are
either assigned temporarily to make something go.. or just by the rest
of us when we have finished our regular day-to-day tasks. This means
we try to put in policies to allow people to self-manage problems as
best they can.

In the case of any incompatible upgrades, the current policy is that
the maintainer should email the lists that they want to upgrade to a
version which will break things. They outline the plan they have and
why they are doing it. The EPEL Steering Committee checks it over and
usually says 'ok that makes sense, make it so.' The maintainer then
emails epel-announce and epel-devel and any other lists that it is
going to happen. They then put the packages in epel-testing and see
how much it breaks things. If they get negative karma they don't push
to stable.. if they don't they push after 3-6 weeks.

However it is up to the maintainer to have the volunteer time to do this


> Right now, nextcloud-V10 is in EPEL7 and  is not upgraded. On nextcloud site, 
> it is obsolete and the current version is nextcloud-V17.0.0
> https://github.com/nextcloud/server/wiki/Maintenance-and-Release-Schedule
>
> Nextcloud supports upgrading from one version to another, but now, upgrading 
> from v10 to V17 is impossible.
>
> How will EPEL8 handle those kind of software? Will there be a specific repo 
> for those kind of software that constantly evolve or will it be frozen for 
> entire EPEL8 life? Or will it never be eligible for inclusion in EPEL8 due to 
> its lifecycle?
>

For EPEL-8 it would be that the person would make a module for
nextcloud, and give it a 12 month lifetime in pdc. Then they would
update to the next version as time went on.
Or they could just put the package in playground-epel8 and update the
sets whenever they wanted.


> Regards,
>
> Olivier.
>
> Le 09/10/2019 23:05, « Kevin Fenzi »  a écrit :
>
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:16:47PM -0500, Merlin Mathesius wrote:
> > I was asked to draft a plan stating what EPEL 8 should do regarding
> > Software Collections. The draft I came up with is included below.
>
> Looks good to me. +1 here.
>
> > EPEL Steering Committee: Please ratify this plan or provide feedback as
> > necessary. When it's ready, and I will prepare a PR for this to land in
> > https://pagure.io/epel/blob/master/f/docs/source
>
> That would be great...
>
> kevin
> --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Merlin
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > *Regarding EPEL and Software Collections*
> > *Background*
> >
> > For RHEL 8, Red Hat made the decision to provide multiple versions of
> > software in the form of App Stream modules instead of Red Hat Software
> > Collections (RHSCLs).
> >
> > SCLs are maintained by the CentOS Software Collections SIG, not the EPEL
> > SIG.
> >
> > RHEL 8 comes with the scl-utils and scl-utils-build packages--which 
> contain
> > tools for using and building SCLs. These packages appear to function as
> > expected with RHEL 8 and CentOS 8.
> >
> > *Recommendations*
> >
> > EPEL will not provide SCL support, although it will not prohibit use of 
> the
> > SCL tools provided with RHEL 8.
> >
> > EPEL will not provide any SCLs.
> >
> > EPEL encourages the community to follow Red Hat’s lead and provide 
> multiple
> > versions of software for RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 in the form of modules 
> rather
> > than SCLs.
> >
> > For use cases that require the parallel installation of multiple 
> versions
> > of the same component, EPEL recommends the same solution as RHEL 8:
> > containers.
> >
> > --
>
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[EPEL-devel] Re: A plan regarding SCLs in EPEL 8

2019-10-10 Thread LAHAYE Olivier
Hi,

What is the strategy regarding packages like nextcould that has a major update 
every 5/6 months?
I mean, regarding incompatible upgrades policy.

Right now, nextcloud-V10 is in EPEL7 and  is not upgraded. On nextcloud site, 
it is obsolete and the current version is nextcloud-V17.0.0
https://github.com/nextcloud/server/wiki/Maintenance-and-Release-Schedule

Nextcloud supports upgrading from one version to another, but now, upgrading 
from v10 to V17 is impossible.

How will EPEL8 handle those kind of software? Will there be a specific repo for 
those kind of software that constantly evolve or will it be frozen for entire 
EPEL8 life? Or will it never be eligible for inclusion in EPEL8 due to its 
lifecycle?

Regards,

Olivier.

Le 09/10/2019 23:05, « Kevin Fenzi »  a écrit :

On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:16:47PM -0500, Merlin Mathesius wrote:
> I was asked to draft a plan stating what EPEL 8 should do regarding
> Software Collections. The draft I came up with is included below.

Looks good to me. +1 here. 

> EPEL Steering Committee: Please ratify this plan or provide feedback as
> necessary. When it's ready, and I will prepare a PR for this to land in
> https://pagure.io/epel/blob/master/f/docs/source

That would be great... 

kevin
--
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Merlin
> 
> --
> 
> 
> *Regarding EPEL and Software Collections*
> *Background*
> 
> For RHEL 8, Red Hat made the decision to provide multiple versions of
> software in the form of App Stream modules instead of Red Hat Software
> Collections (RHSCLs).
> 
> SCLs are maintained by the CentOS Software Collections SIG, not the EPEL
> SIG.
> 
> RHEL 8 comes with the scl-utils and scl-utils-build packages--which 
contain
> tools for using and building SCLs. These packages appear to function as
> expected with RHEL 8 and CentOS 8.
> 
> *Recommendations*
> 
> EPEL will not provide SCL support, although it will not prohibit use of 
the
> SCL tools provided with RHEL 8.
> 
> EPEL will not provide any SCLs.
> 
> EPEL encourages the community to follow Red Hat’s lead and provide 
multiple
> versions of software for RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 in the form of modules rather
> than SCLs.
> 
> For use cases that require the parallel installation of multiple versions
> of the same component, EPEL recommends the same solution as RHEL 8:
> containers.
> 
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