[EPEL-devel] Re: Fast-moving packages in EPEL

2020-10-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 12:14:24PM +0200, Leon Fauster wrote:
> Am 13.10.20 um 10:12 schrieb Christopher Engelhard:
> > On 12.10.20 10:49, Leon Fauster wrote:
> > > Not sure but IIRC EPEL should not depend on software collections ...?
> > 
> > Can someone confirm that? If the package can't depend on php7.2+, then
> > the question of how to deal with EPEL7 is moot.
> > 
> 
> My recall was this
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DBAQB3V35TXPNUV4UKKHXUC52BENZJUQ/

It's changed a bit since then. 

We now allow scls if: 

* They only need to be used at build time (ie, the rpms produced do not
require users to install/enable any scls)
* They are approved by the epel steering comittee. 

So far we have only enabled devtoolset. (so for example, chromium uses
devtoolset to build with a newer gcc, but does not require users to
install or enable anything to use it). 

In the case of php, this would likely not work because it would require
users to install/enable php to get the webserver module or cmd line. 

kevin


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[EPEL-devel] Re: Fast-moving packages in EPEL

2020-10-14 Thread Christopher Engelhard
On 13.10.20 12:14, Leon Fauster wrote:
> My recall was this
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DBAQB3V35TXPNUV4UKKHXUC52BENZJUQ/

OK, thanks, that clears that up. So I'll go ahead and retire the EPEL7
package. Maybe I can put an updated one on Copr instead.

Thanks to all of you, you helped tremendously.

Christopher
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[EPEL-devel] Re: [EPEL7] Celery stack update & Python 3 enablement

2020-10-14 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 7:09 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> How big are the changes between 4.2.2 and 4.3?
>

So, I finally got back to this, sorry for the late reply. After reading
through kombu 4.3 changelog [0], it seems the only truly breaking change is
in SQLAlchemy transport ( I can be wrong, of course) which would require
manual intervention in the database:

"Added an index to the Message table for the SQLAlchemy transport."


>From what I understand, using SQLAlchemy for celery/kombu is pretty niche
and documentation mentions and most applications around the world I was
able to find are using different backends for celery (RabbitMQ, Redis).

The plan will be to leave the upgraded stack for a long time in testing, I
was thinking about something like a month or two. I'll definitely send an
announcement once the stack is in testing repo and then (week or two)
before pushing it to epel stable.

[0] https://docs.celeryproject.org/projects/kombu/en/v4.3.0/changelog.html
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