[EPEL-devel] Re: pypolicyd-spf-2.9.3 crashes Postfix

2022-11-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Todd Zullinger  said:
> Sylvain Jones via epel-devel wrote:
> > It appears the update to pypolicyd-spf-2.9.3 from pypolicyd-spf-2.0.x
> > crashes Postfix unexpectedly. Perhaps a missing dependency?
> 
> It looks like pypolicyd-spf-2.9.3-2 should be in
> epel-testing now.  That update will install python3-authres,
> so you may way to clean up the pip-installed copy you
> mention below.

Except... for EPEL 9, there is no python3-authres.  There is a request
for it to be added though:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2142503

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Request for pure-ftpd package

2022-07-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jonathan Wright  said:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 9:37 AM Chris Adams  wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Jonathan Wright  said:
> > > I've replied and offered to co-maintain the package.  If the current
> > > maintainer doesn't reply in 2 weeks I'll petition releng to add me as a
> > > co-maintainer per the packaging process guidelines for stalled EPEL
> > > requests.
> >
> > If you do pick it up... looking at old pure-ftpd bugs, please see my
> > comment in:
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502754
> >
> >
> Already working on some builds and reviewing that as well :)  Looks like
> the packages needs some TLC in general.

Cool, thanks!  I considered offering to co-maintain but I'm not sure I
have the cycles to give it the TLC it should have.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Request for pure-ftpd package

2022-07-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jonathan Wright  said:
> I've replied and offered to co-maintain the package.  If the current
> maintainer doesn't reply in 2 weeks I'll petition releng to add me as a
> co-maintainer per the packaging process guidelines for stalled EPEL
> requests.

If you do pick it up... looking at old pure-ftpd bugs, please see my
comment in:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502754

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Thoughts: epel-release auto-enable crb repo

2022-06-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Josh Boyer  said:
> If the dependency is only needed at build time, which is what CRB
> content is intended for

If that's the intent, then it's not implemented correctly.  For example,
there are well over 100 perl modules in CRB 9.  They may only be used
_by Red Hat_ in building, but they are not exclusively build-time
packages by a long shot.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Thoughts: epel-release auto-enable crb repo

2022-06-09 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Andrew C Aitchison  said:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022, Maxwell G via epel-devel wrote:
> >On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 2:54:51 PM CDT Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> >>without messing with config files (which I
> >>hate, because that means newer crb.repo changes won't be picked up).
> >
> >I thought files marked `%config(noreplace)` don't get updated automatically 
> >even
> >if the user didn't modify it all. Am I missing something or are we talking
> >about different things?
> 
> My understanding is that those files *do* get updated if they have
> not been modified.

That's correct - unmodified files will still be updated by RPM.

> This new idea will let you make a change to the config without
> blocking updates from making non-conflicting changes.

This would even be good to use for enabling/disabling repos, again so
that a URL change or such would still be applied.

Long term, it might be ideal to treat the RPM-distributed repo files as
read-only and move them to something like /usr/share/yum.repos.d, with
only local changes (enable/disable, exclude, alternate mirror/baseurl)
in /etc/yum.repos.d.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Thoughts: epel-release auto-enable crb repo

2022-06-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michel Alexandre Salim  said:
> This won't be ready until EPEL 10 or even 11, but one thing I've
> discussed with the DNF maintainer is the possibility of having
> something like /etc/yum.repos.d/reponame.repo.d/ where you can drop
> overrides, similar to how you can drop overrides for systemd unit
> files.

I've wanted (and suggested) something like this for ages, for a
different reason: ability to drop-in local mirror configs, again without
modifying the RPM-packaged config.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: SPDX identifiers in old branches?

2022-05-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gary Buhrmaster  said:
> The follow up suggested that the license
> field be differently formatted.
> 
> I disagree with such explanatory
> prefixes, as it requires yet more apps
> to parse/support various prefixes.

No, my suggestion of using "License: SPDX:" would not require any
additional changes.  Anything that cares about the License field will
already need changes to recongize the SPDX values; this would just
remove any ambiguity.  And as very little parses the License field, so
there's not some big effort to update required in any case.

I just made this suggestion as a way to avoid anything unclear in the
License field, but it would also allow any future alternate license
strings to be clearly used.
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[EPEL-devel] Re: SPDX identifiers in old branches?

2022-05-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gary Buhrmaster  said:
> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 11:29 PM Chris Adams  wrote:
> > Would it make sense to make ALL the new tags be SPDX:, at least for
> > an interim period (of years most likely) where both old and new tags are
> > allowed?
> 
> I don't think that is going to work unless the rpm spec
> file support would be backported to previous releases
> (without another macro that tries to do some magic).
> And the goal for some of us is to have one spec file
> work across all currently supported releases.

I'm not talking about a new tag or format, just literally making the
License: tag be "SPDX:".
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[EPEL-devel] Re: SPDX identifiers in old branches?

2022-05-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Maxwell G via devel  said:
> I already brought this up previously, but how will we handle license 
> identifiers such as MIT that are valid in both SPDX and Fedora but have 
> different meanings? We won't know whether it's specifically referring to the 
> MIT/Expat License (SPDX) or a group of MIT-like licenses (Fedora) and we 
> won't 
> be able to tell which specfiles have been converted to use SPDX identifiers 
> and 
> which haven't.

Would it make sense to make ALL the new tags be SPDX:, at least for
an interim period (of years most likely) where both old and new tags are
allowed?
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Certbot RPM

2022-05-18 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Filip Bartmann  said:
> Hello,
> how can I request cerbot rpm for epel 9?

This is a work in progress, because of all the dependencies of certbot.
See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2041142
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed official change to EPEL guidelines: modules and RHEL

2020-02-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen  said:
> From my also little understanding of modularity, this is so you can
> reinstall base perl packages. In some ways ( I am glossing over things
> here), modular rpms always beat bare rpms because a module can put in rules
> to say 'you can install this package but it does not work with these rpms
> so they need to be removed'. So I think any modules we write which would
> over-ride non-modular packages, we would also need to write a 'get me back
> my f'ing defaults' module which stubs in a similar way the perl and some
> other modules do.

Thanks for the explanation - I agree with you, that if RHEL doesn't
already have a base module (like the perl example you listed), then any
EPEL module that overrides a base RHEL package needs to also proved the
module to get back to RHEL.

I get the desire/need for modularity... it just seems so complicated.
As a really small-time packager, modularity has been over my head (but
the few packages I have don't need it, so I also haven't tried super
hard).
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed official change to EPEL guidelines: modules and RHEL

2020-02-14 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Fenzi  said:
> Does this mean if there's a package foo that is a rhel package, but not
> in a module, that it can be overlapped with a foo package thats in a
> epel non default module? ie, does it only mean the modular case or does
> it mean any rpm?

As a consumer of EPEL, I'd rather nothing in the base RHEL (or really
CentOS in my case) ever get replaced, up or downgrade, by something in
EPEL.

Unless... does RHEL have modules that replace base packages?  I admit, I
haven't fully got my head wrapped around all the effects of modularity.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Nasty Fail2Ban update for Centos 7

2020-01-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Allan  said:
> Just noticed that Fail2Ban have generated a 6MB error log because
> of the update, and FirewallD a 1MB log of errors !
> (not sure if any of those were really working after this)

It might be helpful to actually post some of the errors and your local
config (what you have changed from defaults).  Without that, nobody can
help figure out what is happening on your system.

I'm the person that asked for the update - the previous firewalld config
was incomplete (set banaction but not banaction_allports), and I wanted
to see IPv6 support.  I'm using the update on multiple CentOS 7 systems
(some with firewalld and some with iptables) without errors.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Rules for shadowing RHEL packages with EPEL modules

2019-08-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen  said:
> Honestly I don't understand the solution (and probably the problem)
> enough to answer. My understanding of modules is about the same as a
> layman's knowledge of quantum mechanics. I know it exists, I know it
> does a lot of things, and I know it is full of conundrums which make
> no sense to what I normally want to do.

THIS!

I've been hearing about modules for a while in Fedora, and now in RHEL 8,
but I don't really have the faintest idea what they are, how I'll have
to deal with them (both as an admin and as a packager), etc.

Once CentOS 8 is out and I have some time, I'll work on getting my one
useful EPEL package built for it, but hopefully that won't involve
modules.  I only have a couple of packages between Fedora and EPEL, and
they so rarely need updates that every time I do anything, I have to go
fumble through the steps required (trying to follow online
documentation, which I usually screw up, like I think I checked my
source tarball into git like a moron).

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Project plans for EL-8 (2019-05-15 good til 2019-05-22)

2019-05-16 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen  said:
> RHEL-8 was built with various packages which are not shipped in
> BaseOS/AppStream/CRB. Some like screen are in the buildroot for the
> packages which depend on them but were decided not to be shipped.

Huh, that's... weird.  As someone that's been using screen for, hmm,
longer than Red Hat's been in business I think... that's annoying.

I guess the CentOS side would be the more appropriate place to ask, but
would it be practical to gather up these packages and make a CentOS
"module" of them?  Sorry if that doesn't make sense (like I said, still
trying to get my head around modularity).

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Project plans for EL-8 (2019-05-15 good til 2019-05-22)

2019-05-16 Thread Chris Adams
So, I don't have a handle on the whole modularity thing... still trying
to understand what's what with that.  But this caught my eye in your
"Open Questions":

- Some normally leaf packages like screen are inside of the Red Hat
  hidden buildroot package set. Having them built in EPEL is likely to
  cause conflicts on user systems and divergence with RHEL. EPEL
  maintains agreed upon policies for these cases so using the repo
  doesn’t cause pain for RHEL customers or users.

What does that actually mean?  I'm a consumer of CentOS rather than RHEL
these days, so I haven't really dug into version 8 yet.  I do use screen
a lot, so what does "inside of the Red Hat hidden buildroot package set"
mean for me?

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Re: EPEL Notes from .next discussion.

2014-08-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen  said:
> On 13 August 2014 06:28, Dennis Gilmore  wrote:
> > I disagree. FHS says that anything not part of the OS should go
> > in /opt/ EPEL is an add on and not part of the OS.
> >
> In the past we did not do this because we were bound by the Fedora
> Packaging Rules. I don't have the energy or want to try and fight that
> Windmill but I am not going to stand in someone who wants to.

"part of the OS" is somewhat vague.  My personal feeling (for the zero
it is worth) is that anything that is installed from yum repos
(especially non-conflicting repos) can be considered "part of the OS".
I usually consider /opt and /usr/local for stuff installed outside of
the OS-provided package management tools (even if said tools are
managing third-party repos).

The problem I'd see with moving stuff to /opt in EPEL is that it doesn't
get tested like that in Fedora, and causes definate diversion from
Fedora's "norms", so it puts more burden on packages.  Also, it makes it
somewhat more difficult to move something from a Fedora install to a
RHEL/CentOS+EPEL install (because paths would be different).

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Re: EPEL Fwd: Re: how to withdraw glusterfs from epel?

2013-10-18 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY  said:
> If you haven't followed along in fedora-devel, here's (what I think
> is) a fairly cogent, if terse, summary of what I'd like to do.

Does it really make sense to package a README that just points to
another repo somwhere else?  Are there admins that find EPEL but can't
find other repos?

I definately see retiring the obsolete packages, but what is gained for
EPEL to package READMEs telling people that bother to read them to
install another repo.

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