[EPEL-devel] Re: Local mock builds for EPEL 8 (not Next) after CentOS Linux 8 EOL (also, EPEL 9)
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:15 AM Christopher Engelhard wrote: > > On 09.12.20 11:17, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > However, since CentOS Linux 8 (and 9!) will be no more, do we have some > > ideas how to handle this? Do we require all EPEL contributors to obtain > > the developer RHEL subscription (seems like a huge pain)? Do we switch > > to Oracle Linux (only half joking)? Do we try to fight this decision > > (however I am afraid I've exhausted my fight capacity on different > > decisions)? > > Intuitively, I think that requiring RHEL dev subscriptions would pretty > much kill EPEL packaging on Copr. Unless you specifically want to > create EPEL packages, why would you get and keep a RHEL dev subscription > when you could just not check the EPEL-boxes? > > From a purely technical perspective, i.e. pretending it were CentFork > Community Linux, are there reasons not to use Oracle Linux? Ignoring that Oracle gives me the heebie-jeebies, at this time, the only two reasonable options are: * CloudLinux's Project Lenix: https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux * Oracle (Unmentionable) Linux: http://public-yum.oracle.com/index.html Oracle's variant is available now, but... yeah. The CloudLinux offering is supposed to become available in the next month or so. They don't seem to be terrible people and a lot of companies have been using their stuff for a while now, so I'm reasonably confident in their continual existence. If they're true to their word on their free RHEL clone offering, we could probably switch to it as the input for Mock and the Fedora COPR service. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: Local mock builds for EPEL 8 (not Next) after CentOS Linux 8 EOL (also, EPEL 9)
At the moment this is their landing page: https://github.com/rocky-linux/organization/wiki/Contributing and they're working on a home page today for rockylinux.org. Dave On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 03:53:12PM +0100, Christopher Engelhard wrote: > On 09.12.20 15:20, Troy Dawson wrote: > > Does anyone know of a group that is going to start their own RHEL Clone? > > I'm sure the Scientific Linux people will do something, given that they > just recently decided to not release SL8 but rather use CentOS 8. I feel > quite bad for them, actually ... > > Some tentative work seem to be happening here: > https://github.com/hpcng/rocky > but it's early days obviously. They seem to be interested in > coordination with other attempts > (https://github.com/hpcng/rocky/issues/2 ), which is good. ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: Local mock builds for EPEL 8 (not Next) after CentOS Linux 8 EOL (also, EPEL 9)
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 11:17:46AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Hello, > > wrt https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ > > Since EPEL 8 is for RHEL 8 and EPEL Next 8 is for CentOS Stream 8, I assumed > we will continue to use CentOS Linux 8 for local mock (and Copr) builds of > EPEL 8 packages. The same for EPEL 9. > > However, since CentOS Linux 8 (and 9!) will be no more, do we have some > ideas how to handle this? Do we require all EPEL contributors to obtain the > developer RHEL subscription (seems like a huge pain)? Do we switch to Oracle > Linux (only half joking)? Do we try to fight this decision (however I am > afraid I've exhausted my fight capacity on different decisions)? > > Not looking for specific answers yet, this is more a discussion kick off. I guess this is a decision for the mock/copr maintainers in the end? but yeah, not sure what the best way is. We do have some time... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: Local mock builds for EPEL 8 (not Next) after CentOS Linux 8 EOL (also, EPEL 9)
On 09.12.20 15:20, Troy Dawson wrote: > Does anyone know of a group that is going to start their own RHEL Clone? I'm sure the Scientific Linux people will do something, given that they just recently decided to not release SL8 but rather use CentOS 8. I feel quite bad for them, actually ... Some tentative work seem to be happening here: https://github.com/hpcng/rocky but it's early days obviously. They seem to be interested in coordination with other attempts (https://github.com/hpcng/rocky/issues/2), which is good. ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: Local mock builds for EPEL 8 (not Next) after CentOS Linux 8 EOL (also, EPEL 9)
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 2:19 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello, > > wrt https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ > > Since EPEL 8 is for RHEL 8 and EPEL Next 8 is for CentOS Stream 8, I assumed > we > will continue to use CentOS Linux 8 for local mock (and Copr) builds of EPEL 8 > packages. The same for EPEL 9. > > However, since CentOS Linux 8 (and 9!) will be no more, do we have some ideas > how to handle this? Do we require all EPEL contributors to obtain the > developer > RHEL subscription (seems like a huge pain)? Do we switch to Oracle Linux (only > half joking)? Do we try to fight this decision (however I am afraid I've > exhausted my fight capacity on different decisions)? > > Not looking for specific answers yet, this is more a discussion kick off. What are the current clones of RHEL that people know about? I know of Springdale Linux and Oracle Linux. I've seen a couple others but I didn't keep track. Does anyone know of a group that is going to start their own RHEL Clone? Troy ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: Local mock builds for EPEL 8 (not Next) after CentOS Linux 8 EOL (also, EPEL 9)
On 09.12.20 11:17, Miro Hrončok wrote: > However, since CentOS Linux 8 (and 9!) will be no more, do we have some > ideas how to handle this? Do we require all EPEL contributors to obtain > the developer RHEL subscription (seems like a huge pain)? Do we switch > to Oracle Linux (only half joking)? Do we try to fight this decision > (however I am afraid I've exhausted my fight capacity on different > decisions)? Intuitively, I think that requiring RHEL dev subscriptions would pretty much kill EPEL packaging on Copr. Unless you specifically want to create EPEL packages, why would you get and keep a RHEL dev subscription when you could just not check the EPEL-boxes? From a purely technical perspective, i.e. pretending it were CentFork Community Linux, are there reasons not to use Oracle Linux? Christopher ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
