[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-24 Thread Nick Howitt



On 24/05/2021 19:36, Sérgio Basto wrote:

On Sat, 2021-05-22 at 11:57 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 06:32:25AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote:

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:20 AM Stephen John Smoogen <
smo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


...snip...

Here's a scratch build of 1.4.11, but I bet it won't work as many of
the
php-pear packages are too old. ;(

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=68489451



why not use https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/rh-php72/
?


If Roundcube 1.4 doesn't work, 1.3 will.




I am wondering if we need a different way to announce reasons for
this:

[ ] I no longer use RHEL-7 so can not test
[ ] I found that there are too many package updates needed that I
do not
have time for.
[ ] The following RHEL packages are too old for this package to be
updated
[ ] The upstream is dead and I can not fix
...


Or maybe instead of saying it's retiring, do Fedora's Orphaning
format.
Announce they are orphaning the package, and if a package is orphaned
for a
certain amount of time, and has all the orphan annoucements, it get's
removed.
But I do like your checkbox way for announcing the reasons for
retiring/orphaning.


Well, thats what goes in the dead.package file when the package is
retired. :)

I was just wanting to stop shipping a known vulnerable package and get
it off my dashboard with all it's CVE's. I'm pretty sure 1.4.11 isn't
actually going to work, but happy for someone to prove me wrong. I
don't
really have the time to investigate further myself.

So, I will orphan it now, if no one takes it in a while, I will retire
it then?

kevin
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[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 14:36, Sérgio Basto  wrote:

> On Sat, 2021-05-22 at 11:57 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 06:32:25AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:20 AM Stephen John Smoogen <
> > > smo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > ...snip...
> >
> > Here's a scratch build of 1.4.11, but I bet it won't work as many of
> > the
> > php-pear packages are too old. ;(
> >
> > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=68489451
> >
>
> why not use https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/rh-php72/
> ?
>
>
>

EPEL packages may rely on Red Hat SCL's for build dependencies but not
run-time dependencies. In this case this would be a run-time dependency
requirement.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-24 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sat, 2021-05-22 at 11:57 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 06:32:25AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote:
> > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:20 AM Stephen John Smoogen <
> > smo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> 
> ...snip...
> 
> Here's a scratch build of 1.4.11, but I bet it won't work as many of
> the
> php-pear packages are too old. ;( 
> 
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=68489451
> 

why not use https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/rh-php72/
?



> > > I am wondering if we need a different way to announce reasons for
> > > this:
> > > 
> > > [ ] I no longer use RHEL-7 so can not test
> > > [ ] I found that there are too many package updates needed that I
> > > do not
> > > have time for.
> > > [ ] The following RHEL packages are too old for this package to be
> > > updated
> > > [ ] The upstream is dead and I can not fix
> > > ...
> > 
> > Or maybe instead of saying it's retiring, do Fedora's Orphaning
> > format.
> > Announce they are orphaning the package, and if a package is orphaned
> > for a
> > certain amount of time, and has all the orphan annoucements, it get's
> > removed.
> > But I do like your checkbox way for announcing the reasons for
> > retiring/orphaning.
> 
> Well, thats what goes in the dead.package file when the package is
> retired. :) 
> 
> I was just wanting to stop shipping a known vulnerable package and get
> it off my dashboard with all it's CVE's. I'm pretty sure 1.4.11 isn't
> actually going to work, but happy for someone to prove me wrong. I
> don't
> really have the time to investigate further myself.
> 
> So, I will orphan it now, if no one takes it in a while, I will retire
> it then?
> 
> kevin
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[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 06:32:25AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote:
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:20 AM Stephen John Smoogen 
> wrote:

...snip...

Here's a scratch build of 1.4.11, but I bet it won't work as many of the
php-pear packages are too old. ;( 

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=68489451

> > I am wondering if we need a different way to announce reasons for this:
> >
> > [ ] I no longer use RHEL-7 so can not test
> > [ ] I found that there are too many package updates needed that I do not
> > have time for.
> > [ ] The following RHEL packages are too old for this package to be updated
> > [ ] The upstream is dead and I can not fix
> > ...
> 
> Or maybe instead of saying it's retiring, do Fedora's Orphaning format.
> Announce they are orphaning the package, and if a package is orphaned for a
> certain amount of time, and has all the orphan annoucements, it get's
> removed.
> But I do like your checkbox way for announcing the reasons for
> retiring/orphaning.

Well, thats what goes in the dead.package file when the package is
retired. :) 

I was just wanting to stop shipping a known vulnerable package and get
it off my dashboard with all it's CVE's. I'm pretty sure 1.4.11 isn't
actually going to work, but happy for someone to prove me wrong. I don't
really have the time to investigate further myself.

So, I will orphan it now, if no one takes it in a while, I will retire
it then?

kevin


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[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-18 Thread Troy Dawson
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:20 AM Stephen John Smoogen 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 18:14, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 08:56:06PM +0100, Nick Howitt wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 17/05/2021 19:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> > > roundcubemail in epel7 is very old at this point, and can never be
>> > > upgraded because epel7 has too old a php.
>> > >
>> > > It's got 10 CVEs open against it.
>> > >
>> > > I'm planning on retiring it later today.
>> > >
>> > > I can mail epel-announce about it...
>> > >
>> > > kevin
>> > >
>> > What is the PHP issue? Roundcube 1.4 requires PHP >= 5.4.1 -
>> > https://roundcube.net/about/#features. Current PHP is php-5.4.16-48.
>> There
>> > is also 1.3.16 and the LTS 1.2.13 = https://roundcube.net/download/.
>>
>> Currently epel7 has 1.2.12. We could update to 1.2.13, which fixes 2 of
>> the CVE's... but that leaves 8 more. I don't really think they are going
>> to be doing any more 1.2.x releases now that 1.5 is almost out.
>>
>> Sorry I wasn't being exact there, it's not php itself, it's various php
>> related things. Like php-pear version 1.10.1 is needed and rhel7 has
>> 1.9.4 and so on.
>>
>> If you would like to try and get 1.4.x working on epel7 that would be
>> great! Of course the 1.2 -> 1.4 jump would be pretty major for
>> users, but such things happen.
>>
>>
> I am wondering if we need a different way to announce reasons for this:
>
> [ ] I no longer use RHEL-7 so can not test
> [ ] I found that there are too many package updates needed that I do not
> have time for.
> [ ] The following RHEL packages are too old for this package to be updated
> [ ] The upstream is dead and I can not fix
> ...
>

Or maybe instead of saying it's retiring, do Fedora's Orphaning format.
Announce they are orphaning the package, and if a package is orphaned for a
certain amount of time, and has all the orphan annoucements, it get's
removed.
But I do like your checkbox way for announcing the reasons for
retiring/orphaning.

Troy
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[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 17 May 2021 at 18:14, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 08:56:06PM +0100, Nick Howitt wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 17/05/2021 19:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > roundcubemail in epel7 is very old at this point, and can never be
> > > upgraded because epel7 has too old a php.
> > >
> > > It's got 10 CVEs open against it.
> > >
> > > I'm planning on retiring it later today.
> > >
> > > I can mail epel-announce about it...
> > >
> > > kevin
> > >
> > What is the PHP issue? Roundcube 1.4 requires PHP >= 5.4.1 -
> > https://roundcube.net/about/#features. Current PHP is php-5.4.16-48.
> There
> > is also 1.3.16 and the LTS 1.2.13 = https://roundcube.net/download/.
>
> Currently epel7 has 1.2.12. We could update to 1.2.13, which fixes 2 of
> the CVE's... but that leaves 8 more. I don't really think they are going
> to be doing any more 1.2.x releases now that 1.5 is almost out.
>
> Sorry I wasn't being exact there, it's not php itself, it's various php
> related things. Like php-pear version 1.10.1 is needed and rhel7 has
> 1.9.4 and so on.
>
> If you would like to try and get 1.4.x working on epel7 that would be
> great! Of course the 1.2 -> 1.4 jump would be pretty major for
> users, but such things happen.
>
>
I am wondering if we need a different way to announce reasons for this:

[ ] I no longer use RHEL-7 so can not test
[ ] I found that there are too many package updates needed that I do not
have time for.
[ ] The following RHEL packages are too old for this package to be updated
[ ] The upstream is dead and I can not fix
...


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[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-18 Thread Nick Howitt



On 17/05/2021 23:14, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 08:56:06PM +0100, Nick Howitt wrote:



On 17/05/2021 19:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

roundcubemail in epel7 is very old at this point, and can never be
upgraded because epel7 has too old a php.

It's got 10 CVEs open against it.

I'm planning on retiring it later today.

I can mail epel-announce about it...

kevin


What is the PHP issue? Roundcube 1.4 requires PHP >= 5.4.1 -
https://roundcube.net/about/#features. Current PHP is php-5.4.16-48. There
is also 1.3.16 and the LTS 1.2.13 = https://roundcube.net/download/.


Currently epel7 has 1.2.12. We could update to 1.2.13, which fixes 2 of
the CVE's... but that leaves 8 more. I don't really think they are going
to be doing any more 1.2.x releases now that 1.5 is almost out.

Sorry I wasn't being exact there, it's not php itself, it's various php
related things. Like php-pear version 1.10.1 is needed and rhel7 has
1.9.4 and so on.

If you would like to try and get 1.4.x working on epel7 that would be
great! Of course the 1.2 -> 1.4 jump would be pretty major for
users, but such things happen.

kevin


Let me first say I run ClearOS7 which is a Centos7 clone and we 
generally use EPEL - it is enabled by default. However, in this case, we 
do not use the EPEL version of Roundcube - I think ours is set up 
slightly differently with Sieve and the Global Address Book. However it 
is not regularly maintained so is often out of date. Our version history is:

1.0.5
1.1.3
1.2.3
1.3.9

I don't know the EPEL packaging but in ClearOS, going from 1.2 -> 1.3 
had a few changes to the spec file - capitalisation on the Global 
Address Book file name and, in the %files section, a load of changes 
specifying individual files instead of whole directories under plugins. 
(I am not sure why that was done), but, for the users, the upgrade 
process was seamless each time.


Nick
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[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 08:56:06PM +0100, Nick Howitt wrote:
> 
> 
> On 17/05/2021 19:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > roundcubemail in epel7 is very old at this point, and can never be
> > upgraded because epel7 has too old a php.
> > 
> > It's got 10 CVEs open against it.
> > 
> > I'm planning on retiring it later today.
> > 
> > I can mail epel-announce about it...
> > 
> > kevin
> > 
> What is the PHP issue? Roundcube 1.4 requires PHP >= 5.4.1 -
> https://roundcube.net/about/#features. Current PHP is php-5.4.16-48. There
> is also 1.3.16 and the LTS 1.2.13 = https://roundcube.net/download/.

Currently epel7 has 1.2.12. We could update to 1.2.13, which fixes 2 of
the CVE's... but that leaves 8 more. I don't really think they are going
to be doing any more 1.2.x releases now that 1.5 is almost out. 

Sorry I wasn't being exact there, it's not php itself, it's various php
related things. Like php-pear version 1.10.1 is needed and rhel7 has
1.9.4 and so on.

If you would like to try and get 1.4.x working on epel7 that would be
great! Of course the 1.2 -> 1.4 jump would be pretty major for
users, but such things happen. 

kevin


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[EPEL-devel] Re: intent to retire roundcubemail in epel7

2021-05-17 Thread Nick Howitt



On 17/05/2021 19:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

roundcubemail in epel7 is very old at this point, and can never be
upgraded because epel7 has too old a php.

It's got 10 CVEs open against it.

I'm planning on retiring it later today.

I can mail epel-announce about it...

kevin

What is the PHP issue? Roundcube 1.4 requires PHP >= 5.4.1 - 
https://roundcube.net/about/#features. Current PHP is php-5.4.16-48. 
There is also 1.3.16 and the LTS 1.2.13 = https://roundcube.net/download/.

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