[eug-lug]January PLUG Meeting is being moved to Jan 8, 2004
Happy Holidays, Just want to let people know what is happening with PLUG next month. The first Thursday of Jan is New Years Day which is a holiday. Hence, we are trying to schedule the meeting for the second Thursday of the month. That will be Jan 8, 2004. With luck we will have Chris Jantzen give a presentation on User Mode Linux. Also, there could be a room change. PSU only scheduled our meetings thru December 2003. Andy Fraser is working on scheduling us for next year and everything looks good at this point - but I can't promise where we will be for sure for a few days. PSU is working on the schedule. Sincerely, David Mandel Chief Activist Portland Linux/Unix Group 560 SE Alexander Corvallis, Oregon 97333 (541) 684-4644 at work (541) 730-5285 cell == David Mandel, Instructorhttp://www.PioneerPacific.edu Other Affiliations David Mandelhttp://www.DavidMandel.com Portland Linux/Unix Group http://pdxLinux.org LinuxFund http://LinuxFund.org == ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Clinical Update -- No Meeting Christmas Day
As mentioned there will NOT be a EUGLUG Clinic on December 24th as the expectation is that you will all be home programming your little hearts out and trying to ignore the steaming heaps of tempting food and holiday cheer On New Year's day (January 1 2004) there will be a clinic, and it will start early (4pm) There will be some fiddling with the HP boxen (OS install, and experimence w/ samba) and an opportunity to show off your new gear...;-) See You all NEXT YEAR.(merry solstice) -- "You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. " -The Architect "Microsoft has resolved this issue. We have put processes in place to ensure there is no recurrence of this eventuality." -Microsoft ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Bluetooth (was: PDA's)
T. Joseph Carter wrote: > The one minor disadvantage of the Clie's is that they expand with memory > sticks rather than SD/MMC. You probably won't be adding Bluetooth or WiFi > in the memory slot with the Clie. Is anyone here using Bluetooth with Linux? I don't have any BT devices (heck, I'm barely using WiFi) so I don't have any experience. How well does it work? -- Bob Miller K kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Re: PDA's
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 07:58:25PM -0800, Dirk Ouellette wrote: > I told my wife to get me this one from BestBuy as the 2 rebates add up > to $50 and that leaves it well within her price range at $84. It uses > Palm OS 4.1 software so I assumed it would work well. Thanks for all > advice. The one minor disadvantage of the Clie's is that they expand with memory sticks rather than SD/MMC. You probably won't be adding Bluetooth or WiFi in the memory slot with the Clie. This kinda limits the device to syncing with your PC and serving the intended purposes. Wireless networks add a whole lot of future possibilities which nobody at Palm dreamed anyone might do with the thing (similar to the incredibly cool if pointless hack to turn a Palm into a universal IR remote..) This may not be a factor for you though, given that pretty much all of the USB memory card readers are now quite inexpensive and nearly all of them work flawlessly in Linux. (It's odd, Bluetooth MMC is very cheap but WiFi MMC is currently woefully expensive. WiFi CF is relatively cheap, but Bluetooth CF is as expensive as WiFi is in MMC format! Palms use SD/MMC, PocketPCs use CF.) The major disadvantage that applies only to me is that Sony uses a different font than Palm does, and Sony's font lacks the boldness which makes the tiny Palm font so readable for me. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]USB printer help please
Mr O wrote: > KBob, you say you're using Gentoo with those results. I seem to > be missing something. "lsusb" gives me "cannot open > /proc/bus/usb, No such file or directory (2)". Something not in > my kernel that should be? jogger-egg ~> grep usb /proc/filesystems nodev usbdevfs nodev usbfs jogger-egg ~> grep usb /proc/mounts none /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 You also have to ensure that /etc/init.d/localmount is run at boot time. Since a whole bunch of services depend on it, that's probably not an issue. jogger-egg ~> grep localmount /etc/runlevels/default/* /etc/runlevels/default/acpid: need localmount /etc/runlevels/default/apmd:need localmount /etc/runlevels/default/hdparm: need localmount /etc/runlevels/default/vcron: need clock localmount logger Most likely, you need to set CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS in your kernel. > CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS: > > If you say Y here (and to "/proc file system support" in the "File > systems section, above), you will get a file /proc/bus/usb/devices > which lists the devices currently connected to your USB bus or > busses, a file /proc/bus/usb/drivers which lists the USB kernel > client drivers currently loaded, and for every connected device a > file named "/proc/bus/usb/xxx/yyy", where xxx is the bus number and > yyy the device number; the latter files can be used by user space > programs to talk directly to the device. These files are "virtual", > meaning they are generated on the fly and not stored on the hard > drive. > > You may need to mount the usbdevfs file system to see the files, use > mount -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb > > For the format of the various /proc/bus/usb/ files, please read > Documentation/usb/proc_usb_info.txt. > > Please note that this code is completely unrelated to devfs, the > "/dev file system support". > > Most users want to say Y here. -- Bob Miller K kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]USB printer help please
KBob, you say you're using Gentoo with those results. I seem to be missing something. "lsusb" gives me "cannot open /proc/bus/usb, No such file or directory (2)". Something not in my kernel that should be? --- Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. "lsusb" shows you the devices that are attached. Make sure >it shows your printer. Mine prints this. > > jogger-egg ~> lsusb > Bus 004 Device 001: ID : > Bus 003 Device 001: ID : > Bus 002 Device 001: ID : > Bus 001 Device 001: ID : > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a9:1067 Canon, Inc. > > That last line is my printer. The other four lines are empty > USB > jacks. > > 2. Does /dev/usblp0 exist? Depending on distribution and > kernel >version, usb devices can have many names. On my box > (gentoo), it's >called /dev/usb/lp0, and here's what it looks like. > > jogger-egg ~> ls -l /dev/usb/lp0 > crw-rw1 root root 180, 0 Dec 31 1969 > /dev/usb/lp0 > > 3. (If lsusb doesn't show your printer) do you have the right >kernel modules installed? You might need uhci, ohci, > usbcore, >or printer. __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Re: Fedora
Assuming the CD is being played the old fashioned way via a sound cable and not across the DMA channel you should be able to plug in some headphones or speaker to the front of your CDROM for sound. Have you also tried other sources of sound? *.wav, .mid, .mp3, .ogg, etc..? --- Ben Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dirk, I remember you were interested in playing CD's -- and > wondering if > this box has done it before? If it is a new one, or > especially a self-built > one, you might want to make sure the audio cable is connected > between the > internal CD drive and the sound card... that is, *if* you want > to play CD's > you pop in there, without ripping them first. There is a way > to play CD's > from the bitstream off the disc (using the OS and CPU), but > when you play > direct there is no CPU involved AFAIK, except for player and > mixer controls. > > best of luck, > >Ben > > PS - please keep us updated with any fedora issues you come > across, I'm > interested in what your experience with it is. __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Re: Fedora
Dirk, I remember you were interested in playing CD's -- and wondering if this box has done it before? If it is a new one, or especially a self-built one, you might want to make sure the audio cable is connected between the internal CD drive and the sound card... that is, *if* you want to play CD's you pop in there, without ripping them first. There is a way to play CD's from the bitstream off the disc (using the OS and CPU), but when you play direct there is no CPU involved AFAIK, except for player and mixer controls. best of luck, Ben PS - please keep us updated with any fedora issues you come across, I'm interested in what your experience with it is. On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:08:54 -0800 Dirk Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I rpm -Uvh the http://havardk.xmms.org/dist/xmms-1.2.7-rh8-rh9-rpm/ and | xmms works fine. Now I need to get grip to override the cd player when I | want to rip a cd just like it did with RH 9. Reinstalling Fedora's grip | didn't work. | Dirk ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Re: Fedora
I rpm -Uvh the http://havardk.xmms.org/dist/xmms-1.2.7-rh8-rh9-rpm/ and xmms works fine. Now I need to get grip to override the cd player when I want to rip a cd just like it did with RH 9. Reinstalling Fedora's grip didn't work. Dirk ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Re: Fedora
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:06:11PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: > Does Fedora Core Yarrow use the 2.6 kernel? If so, it might be the > switch from OSS to ALSA. I'm struggling with that myself after I gave > 2.6.0 a shot. I have my sound card compiled as modules and loaded but > don't have sound. I've yet to tweak the mixer. According to ALSA docs, "All mixer channels are muted by default. You must use a native or OSS mixer program to unmute appropriate channels (for example a mixer from the alsa-utils package)." Once you have the mixer levels set to your preference, you can use 'alsactl store' to save the settings (do it as root). Then you can use 'alsactl restore' to set the mixer to those levels. This is probably done by your distro's alsasound init file ... store on shutdown and restore on boot. -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Re: Fedora
Does Fedora Core Yarrow use the 2.6 kernel? If so, it might be the switch from OSS to ALSA. I'm struggling with that myself after I gave 2.6.0 a shot. I have my sound card compiled as modules and loaded but don't have sound. I've yet to tweak the mixer. Just an idea, Rob On 20031222.2004, Dirk Ouellette said ... > I just upgraded from RH 9 to Fedora Core Yarrow and everything works > fine except for xmms. It's there, it just won't play anything, but my > interconnection from evolution to mozilla now works great, where before > it didn't. I've got to get xmms working though, cause I use it a lot. > Dirk > > ___ > EuG-LUG mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]XP/smc pcmcia nic woes...
So... I spent a week trying to get a pcmcia nic working in XP. it wasnt ever going to work... I spent a few hours, and installed win98, and Slackware, and both work fine (although everything but the sound worked right out of the box in slack, windows 98 required downloading several drivers, and am now spending a couple hours of updating windows). All in all, id say XP didnt offer anything helpful, and didnt work with a critical peiced of hardware. Slackware was by far the easiest to install on this laptop. Jamie -- ...very few phenomena can pull someone out of Deep Hack Mode, with two noted exceptions: being struck by lightning, or worse, your *computer* being struck by lightning. -- Matt Welsh ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug