Re: [eug-lug]New year's resolution...

2004-01-03 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 03:19:44PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
> OTOH, the 1920x1200 24" displays (WUXGA, I think) look awfully nice.
> They're cheaper than a big screen TV, and they have a much higher
> resolution than HDTV.  It'd work well as a TV if you can sit within
> ten or fifteen feet of it, and it'd work extremely well as a monitor.
> For the money you saved on the plasma screen, you can add a low-noise,
> high performance PC and a TV tuner card.  Running Linux w/
> xine/mplayer and MythTV/Freevo, of course.

I'd hold out for 2160 horizontal resolution since the scaling is perfect
2:1 for 1080i HDTV if you're looking at the 24" display as a TV.  Lower
resolutions are reasonably nicely interpolated if there any attempt to do
so correctly simply because anything over 2:1 can be made to work without
getting too blurry.  Brightness may be a factor, but I expect that a 24"
display is going to be backlit similar to Apple's 20 and 23" models--much
brighter than any laptop you've ever seen.  Ever.

A factor for me is that the gamma ramp is different than it should be
(TVs tend to be brighter and have color temperatures which approach blue.)
Another is that interpolation tends to cause some things to be darker
because they are small and lose some of their sharp edges if the
interpolation isn't done right (it's not in this instance..)  Getting it
right is doable if they hardware knows how, but I'm using software which
makes some assumptions.  It's not been enough of a problem to warrant
special efforts to correct--I just raise the brightness to full when
watching TV.

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[eug-lug]OT - Mars Landing 18:45 PST

2004-01-03 Thread beaker
Sat Jan  3 01:26:31 PST 2004

Today's hot ticket:
Live coverage of the Mars Exploration Rover (MER) Spirit's landing
on Mars begins at 9:45 p.m. EST on Saturday, January 3 and continues
through Sunday and into Monday.

=> that's 6.45pm PST!

See it on NASA TV at http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
(needs RealOne plugin)
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Re: [eug-lug]New year's resolution...

2004-01-03 Thread Mr O
My primary concerns...
Brightness, sharpness, size, PC compatibility.
Dell's new 20" LCD is a serious upgrade over their old one. Thus
the supposed price increase. The new panel they are using is a
16 or 25ms panel which is fast for something of that size. Lots
of updates that make that a very worthwhile panel from the
review I've read on it. 
But.. 20" is not big enough for more than one person to watch
movies on AND it's not a 16:9 screen. Television is my last
concern. I've been hunting for the right plasma without a tuner
of any sort. Newer plasma technologies produce sharper pictures
with truer colors and less 'pixeled' edges. Hitachi and Pioneer
seem to have the most of what I want in a screen. But the models
I want are considered "industrial use" and aren't available
locally. 
The better plasmas also take a UXGA signal ((1600x1200)
compressed into a 1024x1024 box) and various others such as WXGA
(1280x768) producing a near perfect picture on a widescreen
monitor. Alas, if you look at the price of a high end 24" LCD it
is at least half the price of a good 42" plasma.
Lastly, I already have the high performance PC part of the
picture ;-)

Mr O.



--- Bob Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> In November, Dell was selling their 20" 1600x1200 LCD panels
> for $750.
> They're back up to $1000 now.
> 
> OTOH, the 1920x1200 24" displays (WUXGA, I think) look awfully
> nice.
> They're cheaper than a big screen TV, and they have a much
> higher
> resolution than HDTV.  It'd work well as a TV if you can sit
> within
> ten or fifteen feet of it, and it'd work extremely well as a
> monitor.
> For the money you saved on the plasma screen, you can add a
> low-noise,
> high performance PC and a TV tuner card.  Running Linux w/
> xine/mplayer and MythTV/Freevo, of course.


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Re: [eug-lug]regarding "getting dumped"

2004-01-03 Thread Bob Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anyways, I think the "two pass" behavior Hal mentioned is the best
> reason _not_ to use 'dump' - inode errors can't be a good thing.
> I've got a 20 GB drive & an old AT box lying around doing nothing
> so I think I might look into setting up AMANDA or something similar.
> Its overkill but as long as it doesn't involve almanacs I should
> be OK, eh?

I would disrecommend Amanda.

I set it up for our home network about three years ago.  At that time,
it had these problems:

  assumed tape as backup medium.
  assumed several disk partitions fit on one tape.
  was poorly maintained.

That was three years ago, and I'd love to hear that it's much better
now.

In the meantime, I'd suggest an rsync based backup.  Unfortunately, I
don't know of any free, packaged solutions for that, just a wealth of
info on the 'net for rolling your own.

http://www.google.com/search?q=rsync+backup

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Re: [eug-lug]New year's resolution...

2004-01-03 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote:

> Mine is 1600x1200. I'm looking to make my other resolution a 42"
> or 43" Plasma that will handle that signal too (compressed, but
> still capable of taking it!)

In November, Dell was selling their 20" 1600x1200 LCD panels for $750.
They're back up to $1000 now.

OTOH, the 1920x1200 24" displays (WUXGA, I think) look awfully nice.
They're cheaper than a big screen TV, and they have a much higher
resolution than HDTV.  It'd work well as a TV if you can sit within
ten or fifteen feet of it, and it'd work extremely well as a monitor.
For the money you saved on the plasma screen, you can add a low-noise,
high performance PC and a TV tuner card.  Running Linux w/
xine/mplayer and MythTV/Freevo, of course.

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[eug-lug] [sechrest@peak.org: [lug] Upcoming Lug talk - 1/6/2004 6:30]

2004-01-03 Thread Bob Miller
I don't know if this was posted on EUGLUG's mailing list or not.  Hal
Pomeranz is speaking to the MWVLUG in Corvallis on Tuesday night.

I'm looking forward to it.

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 MVLUG
 Date: 2004/01/06
 Time: 6:30pm
 Location: Owen 101 - OSU campus

 Speaker:  Hal Palmeranz

 "Being Your Own IT Department: Moving Day"

 Sure, moving from one state to another is complicated and stressful.
 But being a geek who runs their own business from home adds a whole
 different layer of problems.  Dealing with 15 computers (plus printers,
 fax, etc), coping with the switch from DSL service with dedicated IPs
 to cable with a single dynamic IP, finding the right co-lo, and 
 negotiating with the local telco are just some of the adventures
 described in this humorous and hair-raising real life story.

 Hal Pomeranz is a nationally known instructor for the SANS Institute,
 senior technical contributor to the Center for Internet Security's
 Unix Benchmark documents, and technical editor for SysAdmin Magazine.
 This talk covers his recent experiences moving to Eugene, OR from the
 San Francisco Bay Area.


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[eug-lug]Mirra "server"

2004-01-03 Thread Mr O
Happy hacking. It's probably just a custom Apache or something
setup since everything is done through a browser type interface
with their software. Maybe an old kernel too?  



--- Linux Rocks ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On a simular, and not completely unrelated subject Someone
> posted this to 
> another list Im on:
>
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/01/02/personal.server.ap/index.html
> 
> 2 things I noticed about this backup computer are:
> 1) it doesnt acually support linux (works with win 2000, and
> XP)
> 2) file size limit of 2.1GB(claimed a linux limit) is that
> acurate?


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Re: [eug-lug]regarding "getting dumped"

2004-01-03 Thread Linux Rocks !

On a simular, and not completely unrelated subject Someone posted this to 
another list Im on:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/01/02/personal.server.ap/index.html

2 things I noticed about this backup computer are:
1) it doesnt acually support linux (works with win 2000, and XP)
2) file size limit of 2.1GB(claimed a linux limit) is that acurate?


On Saturday 03 January 2004 01:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Thanks for all the feedback! I would have replied sooner but for
: some reason didn't get that particular list digest.
:
: Anyways, I think the "two pass" behavior Hal mentioned is the best
: reason _not_ to use 'dump' - inode errors can't be a good thing.
: I've got a 20 GB drive & an old AT box lying around doing nothing
: so I think I might look into setting up AMANDA or something similar.
: Its overkill but as long as it doesn't involve almanacs I should
: be OK, eh?
:
: Cheers,
: Beaker
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[eug-lug]regarding "getting dumped"

2004-01-03 Thread beaker
Thanks for all the feedback! I would have replied sooner but for
some reason didn't get that particular list digest.

Anyways, I think the "two pass" behavior Hal mentioned is the best
reason _not_ to use 'dump' - inode errors can't be a good thing.
I've got a 20 GB drive & an old AT box lying around doing nothing
so I think I might look into setting up AMANDA or something similar.
Its overkill but as long as it doesn't involve almanacs I should
be OK, eh?

Cheers,
Beaker
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Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 10:37:48AM -0500, Linux Rocks! wrote:
> : What???  I wasn't an Oregonian before, just because I didn't have a
> : chainsaw?  Had I known, I would have bought one in Ashland on the way
> : in.
> 
> If you dont have a chainsaw on your keyring, next to your bike lock key, and 
> your earth first key tag, then your just not an oregonian. sorry...

Almost nobody outside of Eugene must be an Oregonian then.  ;)


> Seriously thougth... weird things like one calamaty after another is rather 
> normal in oregon... Im just surprised you didnt have any events when blasting 
> the tree peices out of your driveway!

We have had some rather interesting weather of some sort or another every
year in Oregon as far back as I can remember.

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[eug-lug]Re: EuG-LUG Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2

2004-01-03 Thread Dirk Ouellette

> 
> Dirk, the device should look the same to your computer whether you use the
> usb cradle or the simpler usb hotsync cable... I haven't much else to offer,
> sorry  = )
> 
>Ben
> 
> PS - oh, yeah:  be wary of anything vizor-specific, since you have a sony
> palmOS device (which is not a Vizor, exactly, but most of the stuff should
> be the same).  Does your use PalmOS v4 ?
> 
> PPS - have you seen http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO/ ??
> I *highly* suggest always searching tldp.org (ie, linuxdoc.org) when trying
> to find things out; it might be hard to believe but this can be *more*
> helpful than google!  (ie foofle.com)


The Clie uses Palm 4.1.
Dirk

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Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Linux Rocks !
On Saturday 03 January 2004 03:45 am, Bob Miller wrote:
: Larry Price wrote:
: > >Anyway, all systems are operational again.  When we got to town this
: > >evening, we bought a chainsaw.  Next time, we'll be prepared.
: >
: > You do realize that you are now officially an Oregonian.
:
: What???  I wasn't an Oregonian before, just because I didn't have a
: chainsaw?  Had I known, I would have bought one in Ashland on the way
: in.

If you dont have a chainsaw on your keyring, next to your bike lock key, and 
your earth first key tag, then your just not an oregonian. sorry...

Seriously thougth... weird things like one calamaty after another is rather 
normal in oregon... Im just surprised you didnt have any events when blasting 
the tree peices out of your driveway!

Jamie

:
: Does Anne need her own saw, or are we both covered by the one I
: bought?

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Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Larry Price
I think it's having used a chainsaw to overcome a weather related event 
;-)

And yes Anne definitely needs a chainsaw of her own, how else is she 
supposed to keep
you in line?

On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 12:45  AM, Bob Miller wrote:

Larry Price wrote:

Anyway, all systems are operational again.  When we got to town this
evening, we bought a chainsaw.  Next time, we'll be prepared.
You do realize that you are now officially an Oregonian.
What???  I wasn't an Oregonian before, just because I didn't have a
chainsaw?  Had I known, I would have bought one in Ashland on the way
in.
Does Anne need her own saw, or are we both covered by the one I
bought?
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Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Bob Miller
Larry Price wrote:

> >Anyway, all systems are operational again.  When we got to town this
> >evening, we bought a chainsaw.  Next time, we'll be prepared.
> 
> You do realize that you are now officially an Oregonian.

What???  I wasn't an Oregonian before, just because I didn't have a
chainsaw?  Had I known, I would have bought one in Ashland on the way
in.

Does Anne need her own saw, or are we both covered by the one I
bought?

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Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Larry Price
Aha...

On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 12:23  AM, Bob Miller wrote:

Anyway, all systems are operational again.  When we got to town this
evening, we bought a chainsaw.  Next time, we'll be prepared.
You do realize that you are now officially an Oregonian.

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[eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Bob Miller
Sorry I missed yesterday's clinic, but...

nOur power went out yesterday morning.  It came back about two hours
later.

Our phones and IDSL line went out.  It came back this afternoon.

A tree fell across our driveway, blocking us in.  We spent several
hours hacking on it and clearing it away, and got the driveway open
this afternoon.  Had to borrow a chainsaw from a neighbor.

I got Anne's car (the 4WD Subaru) stuck sideways in the driveway when
I tried to turn around and go back to the house after finding the tree
across the path.  Got it unstuck by mounting another pair of chains on
the back wheels (it already had chains on the fronts when it got
stuck).

Anyway, all systems are operational again.  When we got to town this
evening, we bought a chainsaw.  Next time, we'll be prepared.

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