Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 09:05:56PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: > PyCon does it on the weekend, but that's US. My feeling is that > EuroPython has a smaller percentage of hobbyists, but that could be > because it isn't on a weekend, as well as a reason not to have it on a > weekend. :-) For us, EuroPython is work and we try very hard not to work on week-ends and enjoy the non-pythonic life instead. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique scientifique et gestion de connaissances ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
Nicolas, > For us, EuroPython is work and we try very hard not to work on > week-ends and enjoy the non-pythonic life instead. Thank you very much! I guess that really points out an essential difference of a European conference to an US conference. The spirit of France and Italy; or more exactly, the different spirits of the diverse Europe is an asset we ought to enjoy. Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Spielberger Straße 49 70435 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 no fx, no carrier pidgeon - EuroPython 2008 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania - Stay tuned! ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
2008/5/22 John Pinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/5/22 Nicolas Chauvat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 09:05:56PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: >>> PyCon does it on the weekend, but that's US. My feeling is that >>> EuroPython has a smaller percentage of hobbyists, but that could be >>> because it isn't on a weekend, as well as a reason not to have it on a >>> weekend. :-) >> >> For us, EuroPython is work and we try very hard not to work on >> week-ends and enjoy the non-pythonic life instead. > > But you work in a Python-friendly company (because you founded it!) > > There are a lot of people who are trapped in jobs where they're unable > to use Python and/or other FLOSS systems. Their employers won't > support them in coming to events like EP and PyCon, so a weekend event > is quite attractive to them. As I was saying before I hit the wrong key: But I agree that EuroPython is probably best held during the week. Maybe the more local events like PyCon IT and FR are better over the weekend. Nicolas, as EP2008 is during the week, I hope that you will be coming and presenting this year :) Best wishes, John -- > ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
How about the conference being wednesday-friday? That way the two first sprint days would be a weekend, which might get more people interested in sprinting? -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
2008/5/22 Nicolas Chauvat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 09:05:56PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: >> PyCon does it on the weekend, but that's US. My feeling is that >> EuroPython has a smaller percentage of hobbyists, but that could be >> because it isn't on a weekend, as well as a reason not to have it on a >> weekend. :-) > > For us, EuroPython is work and we try very hard not to work on > week-ends and enjoy the non-pythonic life instead. But you work in a Python-friendly company (because you founded it!) There are a lot of people who are trapped in jobs where they're unable to use Python and/or other FLOSS systems. Their employers won't support them in coming to events like EP and PyCon, so a weekend event is quite attractive to them. But I agree that EuroPython is probably best held during ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:22:07AM +0200, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Nicolas, > > > For us, EuroPython is work and we try very hard not to work on > > week-ends and enjoy the non-pythonic life instead. > > Thank you very much! I guess that really points out an essential > difference of a European conference to an US conference. The spirit of > France and Italy; or more exactly, the different spirits of the > diverse Europe is an asset we ought to enjoy. To be more precise, most of us also do some Python programming when we are not at work... but if all events we go to where being held on week-ends, we would have to stop working during the week to get some days off :) -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique scientifique et gestion de connaissances ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:18:19AM +0100, John Pinner wrote: > But I agree that EuroPython is probably best held during the week. > Maybe the more local events like PyCon IT and FR are better over the > weekend. I understand that. I was just stating *my* opinion. > Nicolas, as EP2008 is during the week, I hope that you will be coming > and presenting this year :) I submitted a talk proposal. We will see if it is accepted ;) BTW, fr.pycon.org was held last week-end and it was nice. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique scientifique et gestion de connaissances ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
2008/5/22 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How about the conference being wednesday-friday? That way the two > first sprint days would be a weekend, which might get more people > interested in sprinting? Good idea, but for EP2009 maybe not so good, from my earlier post: """ As far as EP 2009 is concerned, the location of the venue in the city's night life area means that a weekday conference (Monday-Wednesday, plus sprints) is easier - at the weekend we have the clubbers to compete with for evening social events. """ John -- ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM, John Pinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as EP 2009 is concerned, the location of the venue in the > city's night life area means that a weekday conference > (Monday-Wednesday, plus sprints) is easier - at the weekend we have > the clubbers to compete with for evening social events. Social events? People are supposed to sprint dammit! :-) -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
2008/5/22 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM, John Pinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As far as EP 2009 is concerned, the location of the venue in the >> city's night life area means that a weekday conference >> (Monday-Wednesday, plus sprints) is easier - at the weekend we have >> the clubbers to compete with for evening social events. > > Social events? People are supposed to sprint dammit! :-) Well, for some people the social events are very serious business ;) John -- ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
> > 2008/5/22 John Pinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2008/5/22 Nicolas Chauvat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 09:05:56PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: > >>> PyCon does it on the weekend, but that's US. My feeling is that > >>> EuroPython has a smaller percentage of hobbyists, but that could be > >>> because it isn't on a weekend, as well as a reason not to have it on a > >>> weekend. :-) > >> > >> For us, EuroPython is work and we try very hard not to work on > >> week-ends and enjoy the non-pythonic life instead. > > > > But you work in a Python-friendly company (because you founded it!) > > > > There are a lot of people who are trapped in jobs where they're unable > > to use Python and/or other FLOSS systems. Their employers won't > > support them in coming to events like EP and PyCon, so a weekend event > > is quite attractive to them. > I do agree with John. Pycon Italy could never be during the week... Most people here in italy work on *python-friendly* companies and would never come outside weekends. This year we tryied to have the opening on friday and we had less then the half presence. I also agree that EP has a smaller percentage of hobbists and i feel very confortable that the main reason is that it's during the week and not on weekends. Personally i thinks that mixing in-week and weekend days would catch more attendees, but maybe it's not the main purpose. 2008/5/22 Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM, John Pinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> As far as EP 2009 is concerned, the location of the venue in the > >> city's night life area means that a weekday conference > >> (Monday-Wednesday, plus sprints) is easier - at the weekend we have > >> the clubbers to compete with for evening social events. > > > > Social events? People are supposed to sprint dammit! :-) > > Well, for some people the social events are very serious business ;) > Hey! Don't play with the social events!!! :) ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 Dates
In a message of Thu, 22 May 2008 00:52:54 BST, "John Pinner" writes: >>>John >> >> It's early. :-) > >Except that we will need to confirm the booking soon. > >John I just meant that it was early to say if the 'keep in July'er' outvote me, the 'I like Septemeberer'. :-) with only 4 votes in. Laura ___ EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
