Re: [EuroPython] Stop. Breathe. Walk away. ( Some personal thoughts about EP2014 and future of EP)
W dniu 13.02.2014 08:26, Reimar Bauer pisze: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 do not feed the energy beast Reimar, I advise you and others reading the Code of Conduct and think how calling someone a beast corresponds with it. I see a lot of people have problem with keeping right level of dialogue here - to any opinion other than theirs they react with insults and high level of aggression. I was called beast and liar, whose next to burn the witch? Regards, Filip ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Stop. Breathe. Walk away. ( Some personal thoughts about EP2014 and future of EP)
Please calm down everyone ! Thank you, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director Python Software Foundation http://www.python.org/psf/ ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Preparing for the CFP 2015: CFPs for 2011, 2013 and 2014 online
In order to give local teams a better idea of what organizing a EuroPython conference is all about, we have put the call for proposals for recent editions of the EuroPython conference online: * Call for Proposals 2011 - http://www.europython-society.org/cfp-2011 * Call for Proposals 2013 - http://www.europython-society.org/cfp-2013 * Call for Proposals 2014 - http://www.europython-society.org/cfp-2014 For the 2015 edition we are aiming at a new setup, which will hopefully make things a lot easier for the local teams submitting proposals. The details are still in the works, but we’ve already put a high level description up on our Call for Participation page: * http://www.europython-society.org/cfp Note that we are also changing the term to "Call for Participation", since the "Call for Proposals" is often used for requesting submission of talks and papers to a conference. Enjoy, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director EuroPython Society http://www.europython-society.org/ PS: Also available for online reading at: http://www.europython-society.org/post/76523929881/preparing-for-the-cfp-2015-cfps-for-2011-2013-and ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
[EuroPython] Hey, what about the Zen of Python conferences?
Let's keep the affordable "community" origins of EuroPython. *** *Simple is better than complex.* *** Some people are asking for clarity and openness. *** *Explicit is better than implicit.* *** *** *If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.* *** Some people are raising exceptions for discussion. *** *Errors should never pass silently.* *** The alternative to *EAFP* is *LBYL*, not *"Tough. This is how it is. Keep quiet."* So let's take a specific example: in the Verband conference proposal, under "Expected differences from EuroPython 2010/2011/2012" they listed only two items: Scholar students, and Barcamp. No mention of abandoning the binding requirement to use the Python Italia website platform. No mention of replacing community voting with a closed talk selection process. I like the idea of everyone getting a say on all the talks proposed. Let's apply the Zen of Python, and discuss why we can't still have community voting for EuroPython 2014. Rob Collins ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Hey, what about the Zen of Python conferences?
On 13 Feb 2014, at 16:22, Rob Collins wrote: I like the idea of everyone getting a say on all the talks proposed. Let's apply the Zen of Python, and discuss why we can't still have community voting for EuroPython 2014. No, please *don’t*. Feel free to start that discussion for 2015 (but *after* the 2014 conference), but *please* stop calling for action to heckle the current organizers with discussion where absolutely nothing good can come out of it except for more bad blood. There has been enough of that. A program committee is an absolutely valid choice that has been practiced by PyCon US for years and it has produced exceptional schedules; I have no reasons to doubt, that it will be different for EP 2014. If *you* have reasons to harbor such doubts, you should join as a reviewer: https://ep2014.europython.eu/de/proposals/cfr/ . The organizers have made the choice to take up with more work for the sake of a great schedule; we should respect that and not fall into their backs, no matter what your opinion on the methodology is. Closing, everyone overwhelmed with (out)rage should spend some time on https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PositivePython&f=realtime instead of butchering each other here. What has been exercised here in the past weeks is a disgrace and not the Python community I know and love. ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Hey, what about the Zen of Python conferences?
Please join the team as reviewer or as volunteer. Please be constructive in order to help organizing the 2014 conference…otherwise please keep your energy for the 2015 organization. The 2014 organization does not happen _here_. Regards, Andreas Am 13.02.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Rob Collins : > Let's keep the affordable "community" origins of EuroPython. > *** Simple is better than complex. *** > > Some people are asking for clarity and openness. > *** Explicit is better than implicit. *** > *** If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea. *** > > Some people are raising exceptions for discussion. > *** Errors should never pass silently. *** > > The alternative to EAFP is LBYL, not "Tough. This is how it is. Keep quiet." > > So let's take a specific example: in the Verband conference proposal, under > "Expected differences from EuroPython 2010/2011/2012" they listed only two > items: Scholar students, and Barcamp. No mention of abandoning the binding > requirement to use the Python Italia website platform. No mention of > replacing community voting with a closed talk selection process. > > I like the idea of everyone getting a say on all the talks proposed. Let's > apply the Zen of Python, and discuss why we can't still have community voting > for EuroPython 2014. > > Rob Collins > ___ > EuroPython 2014 – Berlin, 21th–27th July > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
Re: [EuroPython] Hey, what about the Zen of Python conferences?
Hi Rob, On 13.02.2014 16:22, Rob Collins wrote: > I like the idea of everyone getting a say on all the talks proposed. Let's > apply the Zen of Python, and discuss why we can't still have community > voting for EuroPython 2014. To a certain extent this is still possible; it is only somewhat hidden: You can register on the website and the request reviewer status via your profile page. https://ep2014.europython.eu/de/proposals/cfr/ Something the page is currently missing is an explanation how to actually do the review (e.g. where to find the list of talks), but at least signing up as reviewer is possible for everyone registered on the website. Cheers, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director EuroPython Society http://www.europython-society.org/ ___ EuroPython 2014 Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list EuroPython@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
