[EuroPython] Track Zope/Plone

[Andreas Jung]

Hi,
just for curiosity: why is the Zope track named "Zope/Plone"? If you put a 
dedicated
Zope product into the title of the track then you should also add all other 
comparable
CMS systems like CPS und Silva or just name it "Zope" or make a dedicated 
Plone track but
pointing out "Plone" in the title is somewhat unfair :-)

Andreas

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Re: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Visa application]

[Andreas Jung]

A visa for Sweden? Aren't we in the EU?
-aj
--On Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2005 11:33 Uhr +0100 Oliver Cope 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
Can someone please confirm whether or not you're able to do this? It'd
be really great if you could because without this it may not be possible
to get the visa my colleague needs to be able to attend!
Thanks,
Olly.
 Original Message 
Subject: Visa application
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:08:51 +0100
From: Oliver Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: europython@python.org
Hi,
I recently registered for europython on behalf of one of my colleagues,
Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe. However to make the trip, he needs to obtain a
Schengen visa and this requires a letter from the conference organizers
providing proof of confirmed accommodation and details of the trip.
Would it be possible to send a letter to him for this purpose?
The letter should be addressed to:
Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe,
Institute of Child Health,
London,
WC1N 1EH,
UK.
Many thanks,
Olly.
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[EuroPython] Printing the programme

[Andreas Jung]

Hi,

is there a chance to get PDF of the whole programme including the abstracts 
in advance since the functionality to print a customized version of the 
programme is still not available :-(((


-aj

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Re: [EuroPython] EP2014 Talks

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Hi Tobias,

the CfP is scheduled for early January. Please stay
tuned. We will announced the CfP on the social media
channels and on the upcoming official website.



Regards
Andreas Jung
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Tobias Oberstein wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> great to hear EP is coming to Berlin!
> 
> Is there a process to propose/apply for talks already?
> 
> Topics where I have knowledge and could provide a talk of potential
> interest would be:
> 
> - Real-time messaging on the Web, Mobile and Embedded - Next-gen
> application infrastructure
> 
> Couple of links rgd. my background: http://autobahn.ws/ 
> http://crossbar.io/ 
> http://tavendo.com/blog/post/arduino-yun-with-autobahn/ 
> http://tavendo.com/blog/post/pypy-on-the-pi/
> 
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Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

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Jacob Hallén wrote:

> 
> In the Call for Participation that was the basis for the selection of
> a new site for Europython, there was a requirement for the cost of
> attendance. It turns out that the promised figures from the Berlin
> team can't be met and that cost of attendance will take a serious
> jump, compared to Florence.
> 
> This is a serious problem for the EPS, because our explicit goal is
> to arrange a really affordable conference. We are now looking at
> conference fees that are 5 times higher than the ones for Göteborg
> and it is starting to hurt. Worries about getting enough participants
> and getting a reasonable mix of people has gotten the EPS board more
> involved in pricing issues than they would like to be. This is not
> only a concern for the conference this year, but for future 
> conferences. A large number of the attendees have come to EuroPython
> for many years. If they are scared off by the price this year, they
> are less likely to come back in the future.
> 

With respect but this is FUD.

The standard ticket price for EP 2013 were for Student/Individual/Business:
330 ? / 500 ? / 620 ?

The standard EP 2014 rates are for Student/Individual/Business:

200 ? / 400 ? / 600 ?

Keep in mind that all EP 2014 tickets are all-inclusive (social event,
catering during the sprints etc.)

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Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

[Andreas Jung]

I have to correct the 2013 prices: 165/315/370.

Still the prices of the EP 2014 are in a range that make this conference 
affordable and reasonably priced.  Comparable conferences - often run only for 
two or three day - are more expensive. 

Regards
Andreas Jung
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> Am 31.01.2014 um 20:04 schrieb Andreas Jung :
> 
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> 
> 
> Jacob Hallén wrote:
> 
>> 
>> In the Call for Participation that was the basis for the selection of
>> a new site for Europython, there was a requirement for the cost of
>> attendance. It turns out that the promised figures from the Berlin
>> team can't be met and that cost of attendance will take a serious
>> jump, compared to Florence.
>> 
>> This is a serious problem for the EPS, because our explicit goal is
>> to arrange a really affordable conference. We are now looking at
>> conference fees that are 5 times higher than the ones for Göteborg
>> and it is starting to hurt. Worries about getting enough participants
>> and getting a reasonable mix of people has gotten the EPS board more
>> involved in pricing issues than they would like to be. This is not
>> only a concern for the conference this year, but for future 
>> conferences. A large number of the attendees have come to EuroPython
>> for many years. If they are scared off by the price this year, they
>> are less likely to come back in the future.
> 
> With respect but this is FUD.
> 
> The standard ticket price for EP 2013 were for Student/Individual/Business:
> 330 ? / 500 ? / 620 ?
> 
> The standard EP 2014 rates are for Student/Individual/Business:
> 
> 200 ? / 400 ? / 600 ?
> 
> Keep in mind that all EP 2014 tickets are all-inclusive (social event,
> catering during the sprints etc.)
> 
> Andreas
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Re: [EuroPython] Pricing (was Re: Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started)

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Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Friday 31. January 2014 20.53.34 Andreas Jung wrote:
>> I have to correct the 2013 prices: 165/315/370.
>> 
>> Still the prices of the EP 2014 are in a range that make this
>> conference affordable and reasonably priced.  Comparable
>> conferences - often run only for two or three day - are more
>> expensive.
> 
> It's worth dipping into the historical record for price information.
> Here's something I dug up:
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees
> 
> Obviously, back then there was no distinction between individual and
> business rates at EuroPython. I see that PyCon this year is
> ~95/260/445 for the regular rates, and I think that apart from those
> choosing the corporate rate, the prices have remained fairly stable
> for the established conferences, considering things like inflation,
> longer conferences, more included stuff, and so on.
> 
> Back in 2007, the exceptional conference was RuPy which offered
> incredibly cheap rates for students, and I think we were all aware
> that EuroPython was going to look expensive in comparison and might
> end up being too expensive for the regional audience, particularly
> students, but there was no chance that EuroPython could discount
> rates aggressively to "compete" with RuPy. And of course, no-one was
> really competing with anyone else, anyway.
> 
> 

You can not directly compare RuPy 2007 with EP 2014. I was speaker at
the first RuPy in Poznan and there is a certain difference in size,
location, length of conference etc. - so do not let use compare apples
with pears.

Also keep in mind that the costs of conference visit also include costs
for traveling and accommodation. Travelling to Florence appears more
expensive then getting to Berlin. I payed between 250 and 300 EUR over
the last years for the flights from Stuttgart to Florence. You can
get to Berlin within Europe likely with half the money. So the
conference fee is only one part of the overall personal price for a
conference.

Also every town and conference location has a different cost structure.

In addition to that: there will be a financial assistance program for
people needing financial support getting to EP 2014.

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Re: [EuroPython] Pricing (was Re: Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started)

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Andreas Jung wrote:

> You can not directly compare RuPy 2007 with EP 2014. I was speaker
> at the first RuPy in Poznan and there is a certain difference in
> size, location, length of conference etc. - so do not let use compare
> apples with pears.
> 
> Also keep in mind that the costs of conference visit also include
> costs for traveling and accommodation. Travelling to Florence appears
> more expensive then getting to Berlin. I payed between 250 and 300
> EUR over the last years for the flights from Stuttgart to Florence.
> You can get to Berlin within Europe likely with half the money. So
> the conference fee is only one part of the overall personal price for
> a conference.
> 
> Also every town and conference location has a different cost
> structure.
> 
> In addition to that: there will be a financial assistance program
> for people needing financial support getting to EP 2014.

Just checked the prices of another comparable "nerdish" conference:
Berlin Buzz Words runs for four days (EP runs for seven days including
sprints):

http://berlinbuzzwords.de/tickets

The prices are in the same range for less days...

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Re: [EuroPython] Pricing (was Re: Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started)

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Steve Barnes wrote:
> On 31/01/14 22:23, Paul Boddie wrote:
>> On Friday 31. January 2014 20.53.34 Andreas Jung wrote:
>>> I have to correct the 2013 prices: 165/315/370.
>>> 
>>> Still the prices of the EP 2014 are in a range that make this
>>> conference affordable and reasonably priced.  Comparable
>>> conferences - often run only for two or three day - are more
>>> expensive.
>> 
> My main problem is the lack of information on the web site - 
> https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/conference/tickets/ has NO
> information on ticket pricing to date.
> 
> As I am hoping to get my employer to sponsor my trip I need that 
> information and details of the payment method and organisers ASAP as
> on top of the cost approval we have a complex Approved Vendor List
> process to try to get through.
> 
> I was also hoping for at least an indication of any intent to have a 
> partners program as my wife would not be interested in the
> conference proceedings.
> 
> Does anybody have any idea when these details are likely to be 
> officially available - i.e. on the web site?

The ticket sale will start next Wednesday, 5.2.2014 - we announced that
yesterday after we can the final approval by EPS this week. So could not
announce any prices in advance. The ticket information will go online
Wednesday with the start of the ticket sale - including further
information about the financial assistance programm.

Andreas
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Re: [EuroPython] Pricing (was Re: Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started)

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Andreas Jung wrote:
> 
> 
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> On 31/01/14 22:23, Paul Boddie wrote:
>>> On Friday 31. January 2014 20.53.34 Andreas Jung wrote:
>>>> I have to correct the 2013 prices: 165/315/370.
>>>> 
>>>> Still the prices of the EP 2014 are in a range that make this 
>>>> conference affordable and reasonably priced.  Comparable 
>>>> conferences - often run only for two or three day - are more 
>>>> expensive.
>> My main problem is the lack of information on the web site - 
>> https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/conference/tickets/ has NO 
>> information on ticket pricing to date.
> 
>> As I am hoping to get my employer to sponsor my trip I need that 
>> information and details of the payment method and organisers ASAP
>> as on top of the cost approval we have a complex Approved Vendor
>> List process to try to get through.
> 
>> I was also hoping for at least an indication of any intent to have
>> a partners program as my wife would not be interested in the 
>> conference proceedings.
> 
>> Does anybody have any idea when these details are likely to be 
>> officially available - i.e. on the web site?
> 
> The ticket sale will start next Wednesday, 5.2.2014 - we announced
> that yesterday after we can the final approval by EPS this week. So
> could not announce any prices in advance. The ticket information will
> go online Wednesday with the start of the ticket sale - including
> further information about the financial assistance programm.
> 

And I just put the News page online:

https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/conference/news/

Andreas
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Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

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David Gillies wrote:
> I agree completely with Michael, I haven't been able to attend since 
> the Birmingham conferences either due to the expense involved.

I think it is the common process of conferences become more expensive as
soon as they become larger and more popular. You need a complete
different approach to logistics when you deal with up to a thousand
people or deal only with small crowd of perhaps 100 to 150 people.
I am not in charge for the EP 2014 financial part but it is obvious that
you can not organize a conference for the same costs per persons
if you deal with 100 attendees or 1000 attendees. More people, more
different aspects to be considered, higher costs...I think there is no
real way out of there  - expect all 1000 attendees in a huge barn and
tell them to bring their own beer and burgers..well, perhaps an option :-)

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Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

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John Pinner wrote:

>> Well, without accusing any organisation of anything, I think the
>> so-called community as a whole should re-evaluate how it treats
>> people who offer their time and resources to benefit everyone
>> else.
> 
> Yes. And I have no knowledge nor experience of the EPS treating its 
> volunteers badly, which I think was what started this thread : a 
> slightly emotional post from Christian based not on first-hand 
> experience,

Stop guessing please if you do not know better. Christian has
experiences organizing the german Zope & Python conference for more
than  ten years and he knows the related people very well. So you claim
is wrong.

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Re: [EuroPython] Pricing (was Re: Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started)

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Stefanie Lück wrote:
> You are right but it is difficult to decide which days to join and
> to book a hotel (much cheaper in advance), if you don't know the
> program or when your talk is scheduled.

The due date for the conference schedule is 30/3/2014. I think it should
not be a large problem finding an affordable hotel four months before
the conference. And depending on the hotel site you are using you often
have the chance to change or cancel your booking without fees.

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[EuroPython] Early Bird ticket sale starts tomorrow!

[Andreas Jung]

Hi there,

the Early Bird ticket sale for EuroPython 2014 will start tomorrow,
5.2.2014  at 15:00 h UTC/16:00 h CET.

https://ep2014.europython.eu


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Re: [EuroPython] More thoughts about conference's fees

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Ralph Heinkel wrote:
> yep, I also missed it, the personal tickets are indeed already sold
> out. Very annoying ...

We are discussing this issue. Also to our surprise the tickets sold
very quickly. Please stay tuned...

Andreas

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Re: [EuroPython] More thoughts about conference's fees

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Georg Brandl wrote:
> Am 07.02.2014 02:47, schrieb Samet Atdağ:
> 
>> Then PSF kindly paid my costs in 2013 for PyCon. This year PyCon will be in
>> Montreal, I can't attend because of dates. And I can't attend Europython 
>> because
>> I'm not supported  by any company, I missed early bird tickets and 400€ is 
>> not
>> cheap. I want to attend Python conferences. But if registration fees are
>> expensive, it'll be like a private party, less number of people will show up 
>> and
>> probably individuals not supported by any company will miss the fun. I'll 
>> miss
>> the fun.
> 
> Ah yes. It used to be that Early Bird is open to anyone booking in a fixed 
> time
> span.  Now it's 300 first-come, first-serve tickets sold out after not even
> 24 hours?!

The "Personal" Early Bird tickets have been sold completely during the
first day. There are a couple of student and business tickets in the
early bird category left.

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Please see

http://blog.europython.eu/post/75895165264/early-bird-personal-tickets-sold-out-next-charge-on

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Re: [EuroPython] saving money with accomodation / mobile phones

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Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have followed the slightly heated discussion about conference
> prices and earlybird.
> 
> I don't think I can contribute much to that discussion (except
> noting that I usually bought lite ticket for cheaper in the past),
> but I wanted to be constructive and ask / suggest something else that
> could contribute to keep total costs lower than with other
> solutions:
> 
> Accommodation =
> 
> I found it quite nice that in Florence (and also at other locations 
> before that), they made a deal with one hotel (in that case: the 
> conference hotel) to offer relatively low prices for the conference 
> participants and that room sharing was realized with no coordination 
> effort from the participant's side.
> 

See website...

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Re: [EuroPython] saving money with accomodation / mobile phones

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Berlin also offers a _lots_ of rental appartments in various prices
ranges. Check Airbn or related sites. If you can find two or three
Pythonista willing to share an appartment will make the accomodation
cheapof course you have to find some breakfast yourself but
Berlin is pretty cheap when it comes to food and restaurant prices.

Andreas

Hynek Schlawack wrote:
> On 7 Feb 2014, at 15:30, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> 
>> You can then find the link to the hotel list under "Venue":
>> 
>> https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/venue/accommodation/
>> 
>> Unfortunately, the prices listed on the page are not much
>> different than what you can get from typical hotel booking sites at
>> the moment, but they may prove useful close to the event when
>> prices tend to go up:
>> 
>> http://www.kayak.de/hotels/Berlin,Deutschland-c9109/2014-07-20/2014-07-27
>
>> 
> Some more suggestions from a native:
> 
> – 
> http://www.ibis.com/de/hotel-5513-ibis-budget-berlin-alexanderplatz/index.shtml
>
> 
which is really near the BCC (and I live next to it :)) and pretty cheap
> (there’s currently an early saver tariff that gives your 20.7.–27.7.
> for 282,60 € which averages to 40,37 €/night).
> 
> – 
> http://www.mercure.com/de/hotel-8312-mercure-hotel-berlin-am-alexanderplatz/index.shtml
>
> 
is around the corner too but a lot more expensive (~75 €/night).
> 
> – If you’re okay with bunks, https://www.meininger-hotels.com/ has
> rates as low as 25 €/night.
> 
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Re: [EuroPython] Extra "Personal" ticket charge to Early Bird conditions on Monday

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Reimar Bauer wrote:

> 
> We are
>> the early birds, here, paying attention to this list and still 
>> getting frustrated because, judging by how fast the first batch
>> was sold out, we are going to have to enter a strong competition
>> of hitting F5 faster than anyone so we can get the early bird
>> ticket.
>> 
>> This organisation method seems very unprofessional, and it seems
>> to be based on figuring things out as we go along. Well, this is
>> not the first year the conference is held, why not use the
>> expertise from precious years? why this desire to do everything new
>> and different? is it trying to prove a point?
>> 
> 

Please stop trolling and calling us unprofessional just because you
did not understand the concept of early. It has been clearly announced
that we would give out 300 tickets for reduced prices (which is almost
1/3 or 1/4 of all tickets). Nobody did expect that the personal tickets
would sell that well (thank btw. to all the people that made an Early
Bird purchase). At least the organization team has a financial plan and
a budget and it is _obvious_ to every child that can calculate that you
can not sell an undetermined number of tickets to a reduced price over
some fixed period if you don't want to run over your budget. Adding 50
more tickets to the Early Bird sale  gives us possibly less financial
flexibility with other things. So I once again reject your "very
unprofessional" claim. Many people of the organization team have been
Python, Zope and Plone conferences for the last ten years. Feel free to
participate in the organization or please think about your allegations
next time.


Andreas Jung

(EuroPython 2014 Organizer)
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Re: [EuroPython] Extra "Personal" ticket charge to Early Bird conditions on Monday

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Andreas Jung wrote:
> Reimar Bauer wrote:
> 
>> We are
>>> the early birds, here, paying attention to this list and still 
>>> getting frustrated because, judging by how fast the first batch 
>>> was sold out, we are going to have to enter a strong competition 
>>> of hitting F5 faster than anyone so we can get the early bird 
>>> ticket.
>>> 
>>> This organisation method seems very unprofessional, and it seems 
>>> to be based on figuring things out as we go along. Well, this is 
>>> not the first year the conference is held, why not use the 
>>> expertise from precious years? why this desire to do everything
>>> new and different? is it trying to prove a point?
>>> 
> 
> Please stop trolling and calling us unprofessional just because you 
> did not understand the concept of early. It has been clearly
> announced that we would give out 300 tickets for reduced prices
> (which is almost 1/3 or 1/4 of all tickets). Nobody did expect that
> the personal tickets would sell that well (thank btw. to all the
> people that made an Early Bird purchase). At least the organization
> team has a financial plan and a budget and it is _obvious_ to every
> child that can calculate that you can not sell an undetermined number
> of tickets to a reduced price over some fixed period if you don't
> want to run over your budget. Adding 50 more tickets to the Early
> Bird sale  gives us possibly less financial flexibility with other
> things. So I once again reject your "very unprofessional" claim. Many
> people of the organization team have been Python, Zope and Plone
> conferences for the last ten years. Feel free to participate in the
> organization or please think about your allegations next time.
> 
> 
> 

Just a side note: also the US PyCon takes the same road with giving a
fixed number of 800 tickets to early bird conditions to the public
(with a expected number of 2000 atteendes).

https://us.pycon.org/2014/registration/

If your budget is fixed than it is obvious that a larger number
of reduced tickets have an impact on the prices of other ticket
categories.

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Armin Rigo wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> On 8 February 2014 08:14, Andreas Jung  wrote:
>> At least the organization team has a financial plan and a budget
>> and it is _obvious_ to every child that can calculate that you can
>> not sell an undetermined number of tickets to a reduced price over 
>> some fixed period if you don't want to run over your budget.
> 
> Andreas, this tone seems unsuitable to me.  Are you calling the 
> organizers of all previous EuroPython conferences childs that can't 
> calculate?  Are you calling childish all previous Pythoneers that 
> naively expect a similar model in this EuroPython than what they are 
> used to?  If you are, you're alienating them very quickly.  You are 
> not explaining how previous EuroPythons managed to do it while your 
> team doesn't.

First I commented only on Jacob de Vera's expectations about what
early bird means.

Second: it is obvious that there is a certain financial risk
organizing such a big conference with a budget of several hundred
thousand euros. So what is please your point with this approach?
Do you expect that we sell an unlimited amount of discounted tickets
with the risk of a financial loss? Do you expect that the standard and
ondesk prices would remain the same with this approach? Of course
everyone wants cheap tickets but the costs per person for location,
catering etc. remain the same and must be paid by someone.  Once again:
having a limited number of tickets for a reduced price is not uncommon
for conferences. The amount of tickets and their prices depend a lot of
the location and local costs. If you are interested in the calculation
for the conference then please contact the finance team - we have
nothing to hide.

Regarding "this tone": calling use "very unprofessional" or comments
like "pigheaded" from some other person is not very helpful and
motivating for the people working very hard at the moment. Everyone is
invited helping us making this the best and largest EuroPython ever -
but *please* don't shoot us continuously in the back.

Thanks
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[EuroPython] Call for Reviewers

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Re: [EuroPython] Call for Reviewers

[Andreas Jung]

Hello Amirouche,

I don't understand what you mean with "open". The EP orga team
does not work differently like many other open-source or scientific
conferences. If you talk about the reviewer process: no, there is no 
public voting
for talks like it was in Florence. The reviews will be carried out by 
reviewer team
where everyone can participate. The EP organization is also open to 
everyone that is
interested and able to contribute to the success of the conference. The 
organization is as
open as possible and I want to stress out that it is as open as other 
conferences in the same

field - nothing more, nothing less.

Regards
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On 9 Feb 2014, at 22:23, Amirouche Boubekki wrote:


Why isn't all the process *open*? Where are the sources? Why the
organisation use private mailling lists? Why financial matters must
stay hidden?

2014-02-09 15:28 GMT+01:00 Andreas Jung :

Please see:

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Re: [EuroPython] Call for Reviewers

[Andreas Jung]

Hi Rob,

I am sorry but we can not discuss every detail
in public (and we must not). The organizing entities
are the Python Software Verband e.V. in cooperation
with the EuroPython Society and there is already a lot of 
communication and discussions going on. If a growing number
of attendees there are always people that have their own wishes 
and complaints. There is no way doing it 100% right for everyone. 

Andreas


Am 10.02.2014 um 11:50 schrieb Rob Collins :

> Hi Andreas
> 
> > If you talk about the reviewer process: no, there is no public voting for 
> > talks like it was in Florence.
> 
> Would it be helpful to analyse the problem as follows?
>   • EuroPython at Florence was a great success for three years
>   • We are looking for the same sort of thing in Berlin
>   • There are major changes the new organisers have made (e.g. much 
> higher prices, no public voting)
>   • There has been little advance explanation of the reasons for these 
> (presumably well thought out) changes
> Please could you open up your planning process, particularly letting us know 
> the reasons for changes before they happen, rather than having to respond to 
> complaints?
> 
> Thanks for all your hard work in putting on this conference!
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Rob Collins
> PythonPro Ltd
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10 February 2014 05:00, Andreas Jung  wrote:
> Hello Amirouche,
> 
> I don't understand what you mean with "open". The EP orga team
> does not work differently like many other open-source or scientific
> conferences. If you talk about the reviewer process: no, there is no public 
> voting
> for talks like it was in Florence. The reviews will be carried out by 
> reviewer team
> where everyone can participate. The EP organization is also open to everyone 
> that is
> interested and able to contribute to the success of the conference. The 
> organization is as
> open as possible and I want to stress out that it is as open as other 
> conferences in the same
> field - nothing more, nothing less.
> 
> Regards
> Andreas Jung
> EuroPython 2014 Organization Team - Communications
> 
> EuroPython 2014 - The European Python Conference in Berlin
> 21-27 July 2014 at bcc Berlin Congress Center
> Meet with the Python community: tutorials, talks, sprints and socializing
> ep2014.europython.eu - @europython on Twitter - facebook.com/europython
> 
> 
> On 9 Feb 2014, at 22:23, Amirouche Boubekki wrote:
> 
> Why isn't all the process *open*? Where are the sources? Why the
> organisation use private mailling lists? Why financial matters must
> stay hidden?
> 
> 2014-02-09 15:28 GMT+01:00 Andreas Jung :
> Please see:
> 
> http://blog.europython.eu/post/76109857365/call-for-reviewers-get-involved-and-and-help-the
> 
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Re: [EuroPython] Some general thoughts about EP2014 and future of EP

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Am 10.02.2014 um 11:33 schrieb Filip Kłębczyk :

> Here are my 0.02$ or rather 0.02 EUR to the recent heated discussion. Sorry 
> for walls of text.
> 
> Early bird sell out and frustrated voices
> =
> 
> It's usually better idea to provide more than one price level connected with 
> early booking a ticket. For example:
> 
> 300 EUR - 100 tickets or short date period
> 320 EUR - 100 tickets or short date period
> 340 EUR - 100 tickets or short date period
> 360 EUR - 100 tickets or short date period
> 380 EUR - 100 tickets or short date period
> 
> Such approach works good on other conferences. The budget of conference 
> wouldn't lost this way and more people would get reduced price of ticket. The 
> current 100 EUR gap between early and standard is just too much (for example 
> for such price you can get full 3 day PyCon PL participation including 
> accommodation and meals… or buy a cheap smartphone).

This can be taken into account for EP 15.
> 

> 
> 
> Place, venue, costs, economical situation of Europe
> ===
> 
> I feel a bit sorry for the current EP organizers. They really wanted (in 
> their sense) the best - probably it was let's do a superb and shiny European 
> Python conference based on our previous experiences from PyCon DE. But lets 
> make it more awesome - capital, big and professional venue in the center of 
> the city, what would you expect more? Sounds great, doesn't it? Well, if you 
> probably live in Germany (and earn as much money as they on average earn 
> there) you can easily afford attending and it's cheap as beer. But wait a 
> minute, attendees are a bit different that on PyCon DE, some of them come 
> from Southern Europe, that is still recovering from financial crisis, some 
> live in Central and Eastern Europe that in financial terms is still far 
> behind western EU countries. I don't know Germany that much, but I guess 
> there are also cheaper than Berlin cities in eastern part of Germany with 
> cheaper venues etc. It should have been taken into account by organizers 
> (hint: quality of venue and location costs sometimes are not the most 
> important factors for a successful _community_ conference).

As stated earlier: traveling to Florence was more expensive than traveling to 
Berlin, hotel prices in Florence appeared higher in comparison what you get for 
the price. You have much, much more options staying in Berlin for a reasonable 
prices. Besides various hostels there is a huge market with rental apartments 
or single rooms for a fraction of a standard hotel room.

> 
> Elite developers conference or community conferences?
> =
> 
>  How well Python community is represented in EPS? 

This is a question for itself. Please ask the EPS directly.

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[EuroPython] Call for Volunteer/Invitation to the orga meeting on Thursday this week

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Hi everyone,

please take notice our the Call for volunteers

https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/conference/volunteers/

All Python ladies and gentlemen from the Berlin area that interested in
volunteering are invited to join the next meeting this week on Thursday
(see link above).


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Re: [EuroPython] Call for Volunteer/Invitation to the orga meeting on Thursday this week

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John Pinner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 11 February 2014 10:12, Andreas Jung  wrote:
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>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> please take notice our the Call for volunteers
>> 
>> https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/conference/volunteers/
>> 
>> All Python ladies and gentlemen from the Berlin area that
>> interested in volunteering are invited to join the next meeting
>> this week on Thursday (see link above).
> 
> Will you be on IRC ?
> 
> John --

Find us on #europython-orga on Freenode.

Andreas

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Re: [EuroPython] Hey, what about the Zen of Python conferences?

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Please join the team as reviewer or as volunteer. Please be constructive
in order to help organizing the 2014 conference…otherwise please keep your 
energy for the 2015 organization. The 2014 organization does not happen 
_here_.

Regards,
Andreas

Am 13.02.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Rob Collins :

> Let's keep the affordable "community" origins of EuroPython.
> *** Simple is better than complex. ***
> 
> Some people are asking for clarity and openness.
> *** Explicit is better than implicit. ***
> *** If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea. ***
> 
> Some people are raising exceptions for discussion.
> *** Errors should never pass silently. ***
> 
> The alternative to EAFP is LBYL, not "Tough. This is how it is. Keep quiet."
> 
> So let's take a specific example: in the Verband conference proposal, under
> "Expected differences from EuroPython 2010/2011/2012" they listed only two 
> items: Scholar students, and Barcamp. No mention of abandoning the binding 
> requirement to use the Python Italia website platform. No mention of 
> replacing community voting with a closed talk selection process. 
> 
> I like the idea of everyone getting a say on all the talks proposed. Let's 
> apply the Zen of Python, and discuss why we can't still have community voting 
> for EuroPython 2014.
> 
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Re: [EuroPython] Proposal review interface

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Please submit a ticket to the helpd...@europython.eu. 

-aj

Am 10.03.2014 um 23:54 schrieb Christopher Arndt :

> I just got approved as a proposal reviewer and had a look at the list of
> proposals awaiting review. I noticed two things:
> 
> - I can't see the contents of the "Notes" field in the submission form
> for proposals listed anywhere. Since this was advertised especially as
> an opportunity to pass explanatory remarks to the reviewers, this
> omission is very unfortunate.
> 
> - I'm fairly certain that in the form to submit training proposals the
> first two text areas were labelled "Structure" and "Description" instead
> of "Abstract" and "Description" and they were in reverse order.
> 
> The result is that training proposals now contain a narrative of the
> structure in the abstract field, where reviewers would probably would
> expect a short description of (the topics of) the training, seeing that
> the section is labelled "Abstract" and is listed first.
> 
> 
> Can we please make the contents of the "Notes" field visible to the
> reviewers?
> 
> Can we label the sections in the reviewer view the same as they were
> labelled in the submission form?
> 
> Can we make sure that for trainings the right text ends up in the
> conference program (i.e. the contents of the "Description" field)?
> 
> 
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Re: [EuroPython] Please sign up as reviewer for EuroPython 2014 - thanks !

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Am 15.03.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Markus Holtermann :

> Hey Mark,
> 
> although I'm not a part of the program committee, looking at your
> profile directly shows the reason why your application has been
> declined. Quoting from the Call for Reviewers page[1]:
> 
>> Please make sure that your profile describes yourself and your areas
>> of expertise a bit, since we would like to disclose the list of
>> reviewers to the community.
> 

This is exactly the reason. With more than 160 reviewer requests it is just not 
possible
to ask a bunch of times back until a profile mets a certain minimum standard.

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Re: [EuroPython] Please sign up as reviewer for EuroPython 2014 - thanks !

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Hi René,

the review phase is basically over.

Andreas

Am 22.03.2014 um 10:17 schrieb René Dudfield :

> Hello,
> 
> looks like the Apply to be reviewer button is gone.  Is it closed?
> https://github.com/EuroPython/djep/issues/104
> 
> The interest tags from previous years were quite useful.  So people could opt 
> in to make public a list of things they were interested in.  So then, it was 
> easy to contact people of similar interests.
> https://github.com/EuroPython/djep/issues/105
> 
> cheers,
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Andreas Jung  wrote:
> 
> Am 15.03.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Markus Holtermann :
> 
> > Hey Mark,
> >
> > although I'm not a part of the program committee, looking at your
> > profile directly shows the reason why your application has been
> > declined. Quoting from the Call for Reviewers page[1]:
> >
> >> Please make sure that your profile describes yourself and your areas
> >> of expertise a bit, since we would like to disclose the list of
> >> reviewers to the community.
> >
> 
> This is exactly the reason. With more than 160 reviewer requests it is just 
> not possible
> to ask a bunch of times back until a profile mets a certain minimum standard.
> 
> Andreas
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Re: [EuroPython] Regarding the Schedule For EuroPython'14

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We hope that we can announce a schedule in a few days.

Andreas
Am 02.04.2014 um 16:02 schrieb Rishabh Raj :

> Hi,
> When do we expect to have the schedule announced? The Call for proposals, on 
> the website @ CFP shows 30th March as the deadline ..
> 
> Also when do we get the final result on the acceptance of proposals?
> 
> Best,
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Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

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Am 15.04.2014 um 08:20 schrieb Radomir Dopieralski :

> 
> 
> There is also the fact, that blind review doesn't really work so well,
> if the talk submitters know some of the reviewers, and can ask them for
> voting on them (or even without asking, when the reviewers know the
> topics of the talks submitted by their friends). The effect is opposite
> to the intended —

At least for the last EuroPython in Florence you could vote for talks
(can not recall if you could see the speaker and its gender) - did it make
a huge difference?

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Re: [EuroPython] Lack of diversity within selected talks

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Hi Stefan,

we got your message and it has been noticed. Some people of the orga
team have been busy at the PyCon in Montreal and/or are still traveling.

Andreas

Am 15.04.2014 um 10:03 schrieb Stefan Scherfke :

> 
> Am 2014-04-15 um 15:07 schrieb Hynek Schlawack :
> 
>> - Having speakers have 3 slots is ridiculous, 2 should be a very rare 
>> exception.  So ask them which talk is more important and there you have some 
>> free slots.
> 
> I wrote an email to the EP help desk a few days ago and offered to withdraw 
> one
> of my talks in order to give someone else the chance to present his/her ideas.
> Got no reply so far … :-/
> 
> I don’t feel very comfortable having multiple talks while others may not be 
> able
> to attend EP.
> 
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Re: [EuroPython] conference length

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I think it is neither the right place nor the right way nor the right time
to discuss what the reasonable length of a conference is. There are geeks that
want to spend a lot of time at the conference with talks and sprints, there are 
people that are only interested in the talk but in sprints, there are python dev
that come for training and talks and perhaps not sprints…..too many different 
expectations.
You will never bring all expectations under one hood.

Andreas

Am 15.04.2014 um 14:47 schrieb Jan Murre :

> +1  
> 
> for going back to the original 3-day length of the conference, not to 
> criticize the organisation, it's just my personal preference.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Martijn Faassen  
> wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I thought I'd give my preferences for conference length in the future. It's 
> just my point of view, but I had it for a while now, and I figure I'd better 
> share it to be more constructive.
> 
> For some years, EuroPython was 3 days of conference, with perhaps 3 or 4 
> parallel tracks with talks. From what I recall from the early days, we got 
> about as many talk submissions as we had talk slots available.
> 
> At some point a few training days got tacked on to the beginning. We also 
> gained a tradition of sprints before or after the conference, later on 
> getting established at the end, where I think they should be. I myself 
> greatly enjoy sprints as an opportunity to get to know people better and work 
> with them.
> 
> In the last few years EuroPython grew to a conference with many more parallel 
> tracks, and more days of conference proper. 5 or so. And then sprints.
> 
> I haven't been to EuroPython for a few years for other reasons. But when I 
> peeked at the massive and long schedule I did feel rather intimidated. It 
> feels a bit too much like a marathon to me. I prefer my conference to be 
> shorter. I also feel such a long conference risks diluting the talks anyone 
> finds interesting over a longer period, making the whole experience less 
> inspiring. And while I enjoy the hallway track, I prefer doing sprints.
> 
> I take it the training sessions got spread into the main conference and 
> that's why it's longer. But I wonder whether the ballooning schedule is also 
> because the amount of talk submissions went up, and following the pattern of 
> accepting as many submitted talks as possible like we used to have, the 
> conference felt it had to grow to more days and more slots too. If this is 
> so, I think we should consider whether this is the right response to more 
> talk submissions, or whether a better response is to simply reject more talks.
> 
> I think this relates to the discussion on diversity of talks. On the 
> preliminary schedule, quite a few speakers have two accepted talks, or even 
> three. For a more inspiring conference, I'd prefer to see more different 
> speakers, more viewpoints, not the same speaker multiple times, however good 
> they may be, and however interesting the topic.
> 
> Perhaps an exception can be made if a particular category of submissions, 
> like trainings, don't get enough submissions otherwise, but if submissions > 
> talk slots, I think 1 accepted talk per speaker is a good idea. To avoid 
> people gaming the system to increase their chances they're accepted, perhaps 
> 1 *submitted* talk per speaker would be a good idea too.
> 
> For even more diversity of topics, throw in more wild card talks too that are 
> only peripheral to Python, and not just for the keynote speeches. To me 
> that's more inspiring. (I haven't studied the schedule in detail yet though, 
> so it's possible they're there)
> 
> I was told by @europython on Twitter I wasn't required to show up for 5 days 
> of talks. I can make my own, shorter conference. So do I cut off the 
> beginning or the end? I'd prefer the sprints, so I guess I should show up in 
> day 3? What if a talk I submitted gets scheduled to day 2, though? Or if I 
> actually prefer seeing the talks on day 1 and 2? Now I have to make those 
> difficult choices myself.
> 
> Nobody has to care about what I want of course if it's just me. But perhaps 
> I'm not the only one. And maybe bits of my analysis make sense to others. 
> Nobody will find out if nobody talks about it, so that's why I did here.
> 
> Thanks for doing all the hard work in organizing this; I know it's not easy.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Martijn
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Re: [EuroPython] conference length

[Andreas Jung]

You will not reach _all_ different stakeholders through this list.
An open-space at the conference, a public survey at the conference
…something like that would be representative…but peace (but
there was no war) :-)

Andreas

Am 15.04.2014 um 15:46 schrieb roberto.polli :

> Right time to discuss: no. 
> Right Place to discuss: probably yes. 
> 
> Enough said for me, people.
> 
> Peace. 
> R
> 
> 
> Inviato da Samsung Mobile
> 
> 
> ---- Messaggio originale 
> Da: Andreas Jung 
> Data:15/04/2014 20:56 (GMT+01:00) 
> A: Jan Murre 
> Cc: europython@python.org 
> Oggetto: Re: [EuroPython] conference length 
> 
> I think it is neither the right place nor the right way nor the right time
> to discuss what the reasonable length of a conference is. There are geeks that
> want to spend a lot of time at the conference with talks and sprints, there 
> are 
> people that are only interested in the talk but in sprints, there are python 
> dev
> that come for training and talks and perhaps not sprints…..too many different 
> expectations.
> You will never bring all expectations under one hood.
> 
> Andreas
> 
> Am 15.04.2014 um 14:47 schrieb Jan Murre :
> 
> > +1  
> > 
> > for going back to the original 3-day length of the conference, not to 
> > criticize the organisation, it's just my personal preference.
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Martijn Faassen  
> > wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I thought I'd give my preferences for conference length in the future. It's 
> > just my point of view, but I had it for a while now, and I figure I'd 
> > better share it to be more constructive.
> > 
> > For some years, EuroPython was 3 days of conference, with perhaps 3 or 4 
> > parallel tracks with talks. From what I recall from the early days, we got 
> > about as many talk submissions as we had talk slots available.
> > 
> > At some point a few training days got tacked on to the beginning. We also 
> > gained a tradition of sprints before or after the conference, later on 
> > getting established at the end, where I think they should be. I myself 
> > greatly enjoy sprints as an opportunity to get to know people better and 
> > work with them.
> > 
> > In the last few years EuroPython grew to a conference with many more 
> > parallel tracks, and more days of conference proper. 5 or so. And then 
> > sprints.
> > 
> > I haven't been to EuroPython for a few years for other reasons. But when I 
> > peeked at the massive and long schedule I did feel rather intimidated. It 
> > feels a bit too much like a marathon to me. I prefer my conference to be 
> > shorter. I also feel such a long conference risks diluting the talks anyone 
> > finds interesting over a longer period, making the whole experience less 
> > inspiring. And while I enjoy the hallway track, I prefer doing sprints.
> > 
> > I take it the training sessions got spread into the main conference and 
> > that's why it's longer. But I wonder whether the ballooning schedule is 
> > also because the amount of talk submissions went up, and following the 
> > pattern of accepting as many submitted talks as possible like we used to 
> > have, the conference felt it had to grow to more days and more slots too. 
> > If this is so, I think we should consider whether this is the right 
> > response to more talk submissions, or whether a better response is to 
> > simply reject more talks.
> > 
> > I think this relates to the discussion on diversity of talks. On the 
> > preliminary schedule, quite a few speakers have two accepted talks, or even 
> > three. For a more inspiring conference, I'd prefer to see more different 
> > speakers, more viewpoints, not the same speaker multiple times, however 
> > good they may be, and however interesting the topic.
> > 
> > Perhaps an exception can be made if a particular category of submissions, 
> > like trainings, don't get enough submissions otherwise, but if submissions 
> > > talk slots, I think 1 accepted talk per speaker is a good idea. To avoid 
> > people gaming the system to increase their chances they're accepted, 
> > perhaps 1 *submitted* talk per speaker would be a good idea too.
> > 
> > For even more diversity of topics, throw in more wild card talks too that 
> > are only peripheral to Python, and not just for the keynote speeches. To me 
> > that's more inspiring. (I haven't studied the schedule in detail yet 
> > though, so it's possible they're there)
> > 
>

Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

[Andreas Jung]

Am 16.04.2014 um 06:41 schrieb Nicholas H.Tollervey :

> 
> 
> I was wondering the same. Diversity in a cultural and geographic sense
> is important. Especially in such a cosmopolitan & multicultural place
> like Europe.
> 

Diversity (where women are one part of the medal) 
is a process and can not be realized by-law or by-order.

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Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

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Am 16.04.2014 um 08:27 schrieb Martijn Faassen :

> Hey,
> 
> On 04/16/2014 11:56 AM, Filip Kłębczyk wrote:
> > Having in mind that there is gap disproportion between wealth level of
> > Western and Eastern Europe I'm curious if EPS or anybody feeling
> > responsible for EuroPython thinks about addressing that problem in future?
> 
> You're suggesting active outreach to Python organizations in Eastern Europe 
> to see whether they want to host EuroPython? I think that’s
> a good idea.
> 

The selection process has been always open afaik. You need enough people
doing the work, you need to write a proposal and submit it if there is an
EPS call for the next conference. As far as I recall for there was a proposal
by the polish Python community for the 2014/15 conference. There had been 
conferences e.g. like the Plone conference (Python-based CMS) many years
ago in Budapest, several people already added the RuPy in Poland over
the last years…I think there is nobody say „we don’t want conferences in
Eastern Europe“….it is a question of consensus among the local python user 
groups
in each country in order to do such an effort. For the sake on completeness: the
2014 Python conference in Ukraine had to be cancelled for well-known  reasons.

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Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

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Am 16.04.2014 um 09:52 schrieb Filip Kłębczyk :

> W dniu 16.04.2014 14:43, Andreas Jung pisze:
>> The selection process has been always open afaik.
> 
> Then where are all the proposals shown that were sent for 2014 and 2015 
> hosting? Where are the criteria that decided German proposal was better than 
> the one from Belgium. In my opinion process is not open and transparent.

Ask EPS.

> 
>> You need enough people
>> doing the work, you need to write a proposal and submit it if there is an
>> EPS call for the next conference. As far as I recall for there was a proposal
>> by the polish Python community for the 2014/15 conference.
> 
> There wasn't for a good reason. I recommend you to talk to Marc-Andre 
> Lemburg, maybe he can explain you how the situation looked like. Also I 
> recommend you reading the mails on this mailing list since June 2012.

Please what?

> 
>> There had been
>> conferences e.g. like the Plone conference (Python-based CMS) many years
>> ago in Budapest, several people already added the RuPy in Poland over
>> the last years… I think there is nobody say „we don’t want conferences in
>> Eastern Europe“….it is a question of consensus among the local python user 
>> groups
>> in each country in order to do such an effort. For the sake on completeness: 
>> the
>> 2014 Python conference in Ukraine had to be cancelled for well-known  
>> reasons.
> 
> Andreas, I think we are talking about Europython here, not about being happy 
> that other conferences take place in Eastern Europe.

No idea what your point is.
I suggest you speak to EPS directly. 

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Re: [EuroPython] Diversity of attendees

[Andreas Jung]

Am 17.04.2014 um 07:39 schrieb Filip Kłębczyk :

> 
> 
> I see financial aid as a similar method (to make attendees more diverse in 
> terms of their wealth status or "geographical penalty"). But I think the 
> better solution is to just work on lowering costs of the event (I think the 
> biggest ones are catering and venue rent cost). That would result:
> 1. Reducing per attendee cost -> allows lower price of tickets
> 2. Lower price of tickets -> event more accessible to people regardless of 
> wealth status
> 3. Lower price of tickets -> lower costs of financial aid per person
> 4. lower costs of financial aid per person -> more people that could receive 
> financial aid or improving other areas of conference
> 

We discussed that already - why bring it up again?

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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 wiki

[Andreas Jung]

Useful information should be incorporated into the official EP website.
 
-aj

Am 30.04.2014 um 15:57 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg :

> Hello all,
> 
> I've created a EuroPython 2014 wiki which attendees can use to collect
> useful information or organize themselves at or for the event:
> 
>https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2014
> 
> Feel free to add information to the page as you see fit. I've started
> adding some additional travel information to the page.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
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> Director
> EuroPython Society
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 wiki

[Andreas Jung]

@John: do you volunteer to incorporate the related info over time 
the EP website?

Andreas

Am 01.05.2014 um 17:09 schrieb John Pinner :

> Hi,
> 
> On 1 May 2014 07:54, Andreas Jung  wrote:
>> Useful information should be incorporated into the official EP website.
> 
> Yes, and that's up to the official website maintainers.
> 
> You're missing the point, Andreas. Delegates can add and share
> information on the wiki : information which may not be known by, or
> important to, the organisers.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> John
> --
> 
>> 
>> -aj
>> 
>> Am 30.04.2014 um 15:57 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg :
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I've created a EuroPython 2014 wiki which attendees can use to collect
>>> useful information or organize themselves at or for the event:
>>> 
>>>   https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2014
>>> 
>>> Feel free to add information to the page as you see fit. I've started
>>> adding some additional travel information to the page.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> --
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>>> Director
>>> EuroPython Society
>>> http://www.europython-society.org/
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 wiki

[Andreas Jung]

Am 03.05.2014 um 12:59 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg :

> On 02.05.2014 09:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 01.05.2014 08:54, Andreas Jung wrote:
>>> Useful information should be incorporated into the official EP website.
>> 
>> Sure, but I don't have access to the EP 2014 website.
> 
> Could you perhaps give me edit rights or add a reference to the attendee
> wiki to the EP 2014 website ?
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2014


Sorry for answering late but I have been extremely busy over the last few days.

Of course we will grant access to the CMS for volunteers supporting us
with content management etc. I was just surprised seeing uncoordinated
and not communicated efforts regarding the Wiki.

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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 wiki

[Andreas Jung]

Hello Marc-André,


Am 05.05.2014 um 08:04 schrieb Andreas Jung :

> 
> Am 03.05.2014 um 12:59 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg :
> 
>> On 02.05.2014 09:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> On 01.05.2014 08:54, Andreas Jung wrote:
>>>> Useful information should be incorporated into the official EP website.
>>> 
>>> Sure, but I don't have access to the EP 2014 website.
>> 
>> Could you perhaps give me edit rights or add a reference to the attendee
>> wiki to the EP 2014 website ?
>> 
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2014
> 
> 
> Sorry for answering late but I have been extremely busy over the last few 
> days.
> 
> Of course we will grant access to the CMS for volunteers supporting us
> with content management etc. I was just surprised seeing uncoordinated
> and not communicated efforts regarding the Wiki.


we would appreciate if you could contribute to the EP organization by taking 
over
some responsibility for the related areas of the website where people contribute
links and insight through the wiki. The information should be verified and 
consolidated
into our CMS. Just mail your account name and I will grant you the necessary
rights in the CMS.

Regards
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[EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 partner programme survey

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Hi there,

we have a short survey related related to the partner programme for attendees
coming with their better half or family to Berlin. Please give us some input
about what you may want to see in Berlin or how we can improve your Berlin 
experience.

https://de.surveymonkey.com/s/YWQQNM8

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[EuroPython] Talks and trainings available

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Re: [EuroPython] "Pro rata" ?

[Andreas Jung]

Hi Svaksha,

See 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_rata

It basically means that the financial aid committee has the freedom
to decide how much financial support can be given for travel and 
housing depending on the application, level of volunteering and so on.
Since the budget for financial assistance is not infinite the committee
has to make decisions in order to spread money in a reasonable way the 
across elegible applicats. The decision for the final round will be made
after the deadline  which ends tonight.


Regards
Andreas Jung

Am 15.05.2014 um 13:49 schrieb svakSha :

> Hi,
> 
> There was a Pyladies email regarding the FA and I was in the middle of
> writing the application and realised I didnt quite understand what
> this sentence means.
> From, https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/registration/financial-assistance/,
> "Get a standard ticket for free and we will cover the travel and
> accommodation costs pro rata, depending on what you are applying for."
> 
> Sorry about the last minute query but can someone explain what the
> "pro rata" in this sentence means? AFAIK, a standard dictionary
> meaning states that the costs are not fully covered, so would it mean
> that partial grants are given? - a bummer for folks from third world
> countries like mine. I'm from India and the Rupee-Euro exchange rates
> make travel and accommodation costs frightfully expensive, so from one
> volunteer to another, I'd rather not waste another volunteers time by
> making them read my application and then have to return the
> prorata/partial funding at the last minute if I am unable to find a
> sponsor for the remaining difference. Have I misunderstood what pro
> rata means?
> 
> Thanks. - Svaksha  ॥  http://about.me/svaksha  ॥
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Re: [EuroPython] two tickets for europython up for grabs anyone interested?

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Hello Osin

early bird personal tickets can not be transferred or sold to other persons
based on our terms and conditions but you can apply for a 80% refund of the 
ticket
price.

https://media.ep14.org/site_media/filer_public/92/aa/92aa7941-c0ee-481f-bb7f-30e58897cc8d/europython2014_gtc_v11_20140205_17-03-00en.pdf

Regards
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Am 23.05.2014 um 12:28 schrieb Oisin Mulvihill :

> Hi There,
> 
> Regretfully I cannot now attend EuroPython 2014 in Berlin. I have two "early 
> bird personal tickets" which I can sell for face value. I paid EUR300 per 
> ticket in my case. I can assign the tickets to each person on receipt of 
> payment. 
> 
> Is anyone interested? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Oisin
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Re: [EuroPython] two tickets for europython up for grabs anyone interested?

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Hello,

https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/registration/ticket-sale/

states

“““

Discounts

Discounts are available for

• Speakers: 25%

• Trainers and keynote speakers: 100%

Discounts will be reimbursed at a later time after the scheduling has been 
completed.

Early Bird tickets can not be transferred to other persons.
““"

This clause exists in order to avoid people buying lots of early bird tickets 
in batches
in order to resell them later. This is the reason why early bird tickets can 
not be transferred.

Regards
Andreas


Am 26.05.2014 um 18:42 schrieb Oisin Mulvihill :

> I thought you could assign it to anyone on the system. I could assign it 
> without selling it? 
> 
> That seems a bit unfair, particularly since they will sell again for full 
> price. I've no problem donating to python, but this doesn't exactly fit with 
> the spirit of europython's I know. Its seem unusually money grabbing. 
> 
> I guess rules must be followed...
> 
> 
> On 26 May 2014 16:45, Andreas Jung  wrote:
> Hello Osin
> 
> early bird personal tickets can not be transferred or sold to other persons
> based on our terms and conditions but you can apply for a 80% refund of the 
> ticket
> price.
> 
> https://media.ep14.org/site_media/filer_public/92/aa/92aa7941-c0ee-481f-bb7f-30e58897cc8d/europython2014_gtc_v11_20140205_17-03-00en.pdf
> 
> Regards
> Andreas Jung
> 
> 
> Am 23.05.2014 um 12:28 schrieb Oisin Mulvihill :
> 
> > Hi There,
> >
> > Regretfully I cannot now attend EuroPython 2014 in Berlin. I have two 
> > "early bird personal tickets" which I can sell for face value. I paid 
> > EUR300 per ticket in my case. I can assign the tickets to each person on 
> > receipt of payment.
> >
> > Is anyone interested?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Oisin
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Re: [EuroPython] two tickets for europython up for grabs anyone interested?

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Hello Rob,

Am 26.05.2014 um 23:04 schrieb Rob Collins :

> Hi Andreas
> 
> I too, read the terms and conditions, when I realised that I would be unable 
> to attend EuroPython 2014. As instructed, I sent an email to the help desk on 
> 1 May 2014.
> 
> Hello
> Unfortunately, for family health and other reasons, I will not be able to 
> attend EuroPython in Berlin this year.  
> I bought an early bird ticket. Is there a way that I can legitimately resell 
> this, or can I get a refund on it, so you can resell it as a full-price 
> ticket?
> Thanks,
> Rob Collins
> 
> To date, I have had no reply, from the help desk or anybody else.


according to our tracker we replied on 06/05/2014 by email:

"““
Dear Rob,
as of our GTC you have two options:
• You can name another person for your ticket at no costs.
• You can cancel your Application. Participation fees already paid will
be returned in the amount of 80% of the ticket price of our invoice EP14-00165 
within 30 days.
Best regards, Daniel

"““

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Re: [EuroPython] two tickets for europython up for grabs anyone interested?

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Hello Oisin,

we decided that you can go forward and transfer your tickets to other persons
through 

https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/tickets/mine/

(you need to specify the usernames of the target persons).

I hope this solves your problem.

Regards
Andreas

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> Hi There,
> 
> Regretfully I cannot now attend EuroPython 2014 in Berlin. I have two "early 
> bird personal tickets" which I can sell for face value. I paid EUR300 per 
> ticket in my case. I can assign the tickets to each person on receipt of 
> payment. 
> 
> Is anyone interested? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython blog article about my talk

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I am the author of all blog entries.

Andreas

Am 15.06.2014 um 19:58 schrieb Stefan Schwarzer :

> Hi,
> 
> I'm happy to see my upcoming talk mentioned on the
> EuroPython blog [1]. Thanks! :-) However, I noticed several
> problems with the article and wanted to contact someone to
> fix them. The authors of the blog articles don't seem to be
> given, but the footer of the blog refers to the EuroPython
> Society. [2] From all the links on that page I believe the
> one to the mailing list is most appropriate. If I should
> contact someone else, please let me know.
> 
> [1] 
> http://blog.europython.eu/post/88542061047/featured-talk-support-python-2-and-3-with-the-same
> [2] http://www.europython-society.org/contact
> 
> The problems with the blog article from my point of view:
> 
> - Clicking the title link gives me an error "Seite nicht
>  gefunden". This seems to be the case for all links to
>  talks in the blog.
> 
> - It would be nice if the link "Stefan Schwarzer" after the
>  talk title should refer to my company home page [3] as the
>  linked private page is rather old and I admit I haven't
>  updated it for quite some time. (It's still mostly up to
>  date.) That said, if you think the link to the private
>  page fits the purpose of the blog better, I'm ok with
>  keeping the link. :)
> 
>  [3] http://sschwarzer.com/en/
> 
> - The link "freelancer" at the end of the article refers
>  back to the article itself. I guess it should refer to my
>  company homepage [3].
> 
> - The last sentence reads, "He is the maintainer of the FTP
>  client library." I don't think I'm the maintainer of "the
>  FTP library". ;-)  In my opinion it should read "He is the
>  maintainer of the FTP client library ftputil.", ideally
>  with a link to the project page [4].
> 
>  [4] http://ftputil.sschwarzer.net/
> 
> Again, nonetheless thanks for the article. Thanks for all
> your work. :-)
> 
> Best regards,
> Stefan
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Re: [EuroPython] EuroPython blog article about my talk

[Andreas Jung]

Hi Stefan,

all fixed.

Happy having you in Berlin!
Andreas

Am 15.06.2014 um 19:58 schrieb Stefan Schwarzer :

> Hi,
> 
> I'm happy to see my upcoming talk mentioned on the
> EuroPython blog [1]. Thanks! :-) However, I noticed several
> problems with the article and wanted to contact someone to
> fix them. The authors of the blog articles don't seem to be
> given, but the footer of the blog refers to the EuroPython
> Society. [2] From all the links on that page I believe the
> one to the mailing list is most appropriate. If I should
> contact someone else, please let me know.
> 
> [1] 
> http://blog.europython.eu/post/88542061047/featured-talk-support-python-2-and-3-with-the-same
> [2] http://www.europython-society.org/contact
> 
> The problems with the blog article from my point of view:
> 
> - Clicking the title link gives me an error "Seite nicht
>  gefunden". This seems to be the case for all links to
>  talks in the blog.
> 
> - It would be nice if the link "Stefan Schwarzer" after the
>  talk title should refer to my company home page [3] as the
>  linked private page is rather old and I admit I haven't
>  updated it for quite some time. (It's still mostly up to
>  date.) That said, if you think the link to the private
>  page fits the purpose of the blog better, I'm ok with
>  keeping the link. :)
> 
>  [3] http://sschwarzer.com/en/
> 
> - The link "freelancer" at the end of the article refers
>  back to the article itself. I guess it should refer to my
>  company homepage [3].
> 
> - The last sentence reads, "He is the maintainer of the FTP
>  client library." I don't think I'm the maintainer of "the
>  FTP library". ;-)  In my opinion it should read "He is the
>  maintainer of the FTP client library ftputil.", ideally
>  with a link to the project page [4].
> 
>  [4] http://ftputil.sschwarzer.net/
> 
> Again, nonetheless thanks for the article. Thanks for all
> your work. :-)
> 
> Best regards,
> Stefan
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Re: [EuroPython] Will the talks be recorded? Annoyances with scheduling.

[Andreas Jung]

Short answer: yes, this is planned.

Andreas

Am 16.06.2014 um 13:53 schrieb Phillip Oldham :

> Can anyone tell me whether the talks this year will be recorded and made 
> available online? 
> 
> I’ve just started making a list of the talks I’d like to attend and I’m 
> rather disappointed to find that a number of talks around distributed 
> programming I’m keen to attend are set for the same slot on the same day. In 
> fact, I’ve noticed it has happened a couple of times where similarly themed 
> talks have been scheduled for the same time. I understand that there will 
> always be talks that you can’t attend, but maybe a little thought could’ve 
> gone into talk themes so they wouldn’t’ve been scheduled together.
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Re: [EuroPython] Important EuroPython Updates

[Andreas Jung]

Hello,

thanks to Mark-André for forwarding some information from the EP Blog.

Please follow the updates on the blog as primary and complete resource
for EuroPython related information and logistics.

Thanks
Andreas

Am 24.06.2014 um 22:35 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg :

> 
> 
>http://blog.europython.eu/
>http://blog.europython.eu/rss (using RSS)
>https://www.tumblr.com/follow/europython (using Tumblr)
> 
> or follow the Twitter and Facebook accounts, which do get the blog
> entries as (additional) feed:
> 
>https://twitter.com/europython
>https://www.facebook.com/europython
> 

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[EuroPython] Become an Angel - Help us at EuroPython 2014

[Andreas Jung]

EuroPython will be a big conference and a big conference needs lots of 
volunteers for making this conference a real success. 

You want to become an Angel?

Angels are our volunteers that help us handling various tasks during the 
conference.

Why be a volunteer?
• Get an awesome lemon green EuroPython Staff TShirt
• Show everyone your support to the Python community (by wearing your 
special lemon green TShirt)
• With a minimum of 20 hours spent as a volunteer you will receive a 
REFUND of 50% on your ticket price

Last but not least: you become an angel 😃

Please check out the full Volunteer aka Angel FAQ and then register as Angel 
and hopefully welcome to EuroPython heaven!

Help us to make EuroPython 2014 the best EuroPython conference ever and a 
memorable experience for all attending Pythonistas.

https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/conference/volunteers/angel-faq/
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Re: [EuroPython] Travel information for EuroPython 2014

[Andreas Jung]

Am 14.07.2014 um 15:51 schrieb Hynek Schlawack :

> Hi,
> 
> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:51, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> 
>> into the EuroPython website page for travel infos:
>> 
>> * https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/venue/public-transportation/
> 
> Please note that over EuroPython there’ll be no S-Bahn service between 
> Zoologischer Garten and Friedrichstr: 
> http://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/aktuell/2014/084_stadtbahnsperrung.htm
> 
> That means that you can’t get from Hauptbahnhof (main station) to 
> Alexanderplatz (which is one stop after Friedrichstr.) using the S-Bahn.  
> There’ll be replacements services using buses and you can use the U-Bahn (U2) 
> from Zoo to Alexanderplatz, it just takes a lot longer so plan ahead.
> 
> This sucks big time, maybe it should be added to the page mentioned above.


I added this weeks ago…am I missing something?

Andreas

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Re: [EuroPython] Travel information for EuroPython 2014

[Andreas Jung]

Well, which airport? As written U2 or bus will work two between Zoologischer 
Garten
and Alexanderplatz.

Andreas

Am 14.07.2014 um 16:17 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg :

> On 14.07.2014 16:08, Hynek Schlawack wrote:
>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 15:55, Andreas Jung wrote:
>> 
>>>>> into the EuroPython website page for travel infos:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/venue/public-transportation/
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that over EuroPython there’ll be no S-Bahn service between 
>>>> Zoologischer Garten and
>>>> Friedrichstr: 
>>>> http://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/aktuell/2014/084_stadtbahnsperrung.htm
>>>> 
>>>> That means that you can’t get from Hauptbahnhof (main station) to 
>>>> Alexanderplatz (which is one
>>>> stop after Friedrichstr.) using the S-Bahn.  There’ll be replacements 
>>>> services using buses and
>>>> you can use the U-Bahn (U2) from Zoo to Alexanderplatz, it just takes a 
>>>> lot longer so plan ahead.
>>>> 
>>>> This sucks big time, maybe it should be added to the page mentioned above.
>>> I added this weeks ago…am I missing something?
>> 
>> No, sorry I am. :)  For some reason I both missed it and used wrong search 
>> terms when double
>> checking whether I’ve missed it.  Sorry for the noise. m(
> 
> Does this suspension of service also have an effect for people
> arriving from the airports ?
> 
> If so, I'll add a note to those sections as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> Director
> EuroPython Society
> http://www.europython-society.org/

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Re: [EuroPython] Travel information for EuroPython 2014

[Andreas Jung]

Am 14.07.2014 um 16:39 schrieb M.-A. Lemburg :

> On 14.07.2014 16:26, Hynek Schlawack wrote:
>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 16:17, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> 
>>> into the EuroPython website page for travel infos:
>>> 
>>> * https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/venue/public-transportation/
>> 
>> Please note that over EuroPython there’ll be no S-Bahn service between 
>> Zoologischer Garten and
>> Friedrichstr: 
>> http://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/aktuell/2014/084_stadtbahnsperrung.htm
>> 
>> That means that you can’t get from Hauptbahnhof (main station) to 
>> Alexanderplatz (which is one
>> stop after Friedrichstr.) using the S-Bahn.  There’ll be replacements 
>> services using buses and
>> you can use the U-Bahn (U2) from Zoo to Alexanderplatz, it just takes a 
>> lot longer so plan ahead.
>> 
>> This sucks big time, maybe it should be added to the page mentioned 
>> above.
> I added this weeks ago…am I missing something?
 
 No, sorry I am. :)  For some reason I both missed it and used wrong search 
 terms when double
 checking whether I’ve missed it.  Sorry for the noise. m(
>>> 
>>> Does this suspension of service also have an effect for people
>>> arriving from the airports ?
>>> 
>>> If so, I'll add a note to those sections as well.
>> 
>> Depends where they arrive *to*.  It’s a very important leg connecting east 
>> and west so if someone
>> arrives for instance at SXF and has accommodation in the western city, 
>> chances are they are affected
>> (although they should take a train then which are *not* affected).
>> 
>> In order to get from TXL or SXF to Alexanderplatz you shouldn’t need to use 
>> that part of the network
>> though.
> 
> Ok. I was specifically curious about TXL/SXF -> Alexanderplatz, since
> there are sections on the page explaining these particular routes.


Well, download the BVG app, it will tell you :-)

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[EuroPython] Update for EuroPython Angels/Volunteers

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EuroPython 2014 is in less than five days and we still need more volunteers for 
various tasks during the conference. Please see check our former blog post [1] 
and see the Angels FAQ [3]. 

If you have not registered yet then please proceed with the registration [2] as 
soon as possible.

For angels registered with the volunteer management system: please add yourself 
to the shifts that fit your interest, please fill the remaining slots. Do not 
be afraid that you will miss imporant talks. There are also options to work as 
"video angel" where you can both listen to a talk and help the video team. You 
will receive an introduction to the tasks during the initial briefings  - we 
will not leave you alone.

Your benefits as EuroPython Angel:
• Best option for getting in touch with new people
• Get an awesome lemon green EuroPython Staff TShirt
• Show everyone your support to the Python community (by wearing your 
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• With a minimum of 20 hours spent as an angel you will receive a 
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[1] 
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Re: [EuroPython] [Guidebook Support] Re: My schedule disappeared

[Andreas Jung]

Am 19.07.2014 um 01:49 schrieb Roberto Martínez :

> Hi folks,
> 
> I was using the Guidebook app making my own schedule for the Europython, when 
> suddenly the "My Schedule" option disappeared.
> 
> I thought there was a bug in the Guidebook app, but after a few mails with 
> the support team it seems that one of the admins (Andreas Jung ^ Markus 
> Holtermann) disabled this option.
> 

Will be back later…unfortunately the Guidebook import procedures are not every 
organizer friendly
with incremental updates or complete re-imports regarding „My schedule“.  You 
learn the pitfalls of tools while
you use them.

-aj
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[EuroPython] Call for Proposals deadline extended until 16/02/2014

[Andreas Jung (Europython Helpdesk)]

Call for Proposals extended until 16/02/2014

We extended the deadline for the Call for Proposals for a week until 16/02/2014 
23:59:59 CET.  So you have one more week to submit your favorite talk topic or 
proposal for a training or a poster.

https://ep2014.europython.eu/en/proposals/cfp/

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