Re: [EVDL] 2003 Mercury Messanger
The 4.6 liter V8 was the design power plant for this vehicle. Since the article only speaks of a single Messenger that changed hands recently and is now destined to stay electric, I would not be surprised if what Wayne is working on is *this* vehicle from Joe Bortz. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:42 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 2003 Mercury Messanger PS -- It's an intriguing coincidence that another Mercury Messenger was in the news this spring. I doubt that yours will manage as much range, but I expect it'll have a somewhat less spectacular denouement. ;-) Here's a little more on the Mercury Messenger (the FoMoCo one, not the NASA one) : http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/10/08/could-the-stillborn-messenger- concept-car-have-saved-mercury/ http://v.gd/6RKmEr The article says the owner is "planning to source a 4.6-liter modular V-8 and six-speed automatic transmission to make it a running and driveable car," then that "he´s since decided to keep the concept car electrified." I wonder what changed his mind, and whether a 120 volt DC drive will satisfy someone who originally considered a big V8. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 2003 Mercury Messanger
PS -- It's an intriguing coincidence that another Mercury Messenger was in the news this spring. I doubt that yours will manage as much range, but I expect it'll have a somewhat less spectacular denouement. ;-) Here's a little more on the Mercury Messenger (the FoMoCo one, not the NASA one) : http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2014/10/08/could-the-stillborn-messenger- concept-car-have-saved-mercury/ http://v.gd/6RKmEr The article says the owner is "planning to source a 4.6-liter modular V-8 and six-speed automatic transmission to make it a running and driveable car," then that "he´s since decided to keep the concept car electrified." I wonder what changed his mind, and whether a 120 volt DC drive will satisfy someone who originally considered a big V8. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 2003 Mercury Messanger
On 30 Jul 2015 at 16:52, Electric Blue auto convertions via EV wrote: > The French did the electronics, need I say more You needn't, but I will. ;-) In fact I hear that the PSA Peugeot-Citroën EVs from the 1990s were pretty decent vehicles. Friends of mine owned ICEV Renaults and Simcas in the 1970s and 1980s. They certainly had their share of mechanical problems, but I don't recall them ever grousing about electrical issues. Maybe they were especially lucky, but I don't associate France with crummy electronics, automotive or otherwise. On the other hand, right across the channel you have the infamous "Prince of Darkness," Lucas Electrical. :-) David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 2003 Mercury Messanger
Not too many things make me jealous anymore. What a cool company car that would be. Mark Grasser Subject: Re: [EVDL] 2003 Mercury Messanger Cool looking car!! Regards, Stephen On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Electric Blue auto convertions via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > I have one of kind concept cat in my shop for converson, It was built > in France for Ford, a sorts car, They made it electric to move round > and go to events on its own power.. LOLOLOLOL The motor is a 4 inch 20 > amp DC motor, the controller looks like it came from a ransistor radio > from the 70s, and is rated at 15 amps. press on the gas peddle and it blows fuses. > > I will be putting in a Implus 9 motor, 120 battery system, not 24 volt > LOLOL, A lot of work is going to happen to fit the 9 inch, no trans, > bolted to the rear end, I have a evnetics Jr, to put it, the owner > dose not want any thing done to the inside at all, and nothing is real > in the inside, windows dont even go up & down. but it has a working > gas peddle, hall effect.. The French did the electronics, need I > say more > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150730/f29 > 0fcff/attachment.htm > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150730/7d39b31c /attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 2003 Mercury Messanger
Cool looking car!! Regards, Stephen On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Electric Blue auto convertions via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > I have one of kind concept cat in my shop for converson, It was built in > France for Ford, a sorts car, They made it electric to move round and go to > events on its own power.. LOLOLOLOL The motor is a 4 inch 20 amp DC motor, > the controller looks like it came from a ransistor radio from the 70s, and > is rated at 15 amps. press on the gas peddle and it blows fuses. > > I will be putting in a Implus 9 motor, 120 battery system, not 24 volt > LOLOL, A lot of work is going to happen to fit the 9 inch, no trans, bolted > to the rear end, I have a evnetics Jr, to put it, the owner dose not want > any thing done to the inside at all, and nothing is real in the inside, > windows dont even go up & down. but it has a working gas peddle, hall > effect.. The French did the electronics, need I say more > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150730/f290fcff/attachment.htm > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150730/7d39b31c/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] 2003 Mercury Messanger
I have one of kind concept cat in my shop for converson, It was built in France for Ford, a sorts car, They made it electric to move round and go to events on its own power.. LOLOLOLOL The motor is a 4 inch 20 amp DC motor, the controller looks like it came from a ransistor radio from the 70s, and is rated at 15 amps. press on the gas peddle and it blows fuses. I will be putting in a Implus 9 motor, 120 battery system, not 24 volt LOLOL, A lot of work is going to happen to fit the 9 inch, no trans, bolted to the rear end, I have a evnetics Jr, to put it, the owner dose not want any thing done to the inside at all, and nothing is real in the inside, windows dont even go up & down. but it has a working gas peddle, hall effect.. The French did the electronics, need I say more -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150730/f290fcff/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity
Well, I'd go by the test data, though there will be some variability in results. May also be some variability in what different websites give for the 20 and 5 hr rates. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Lead-GC-battery-capacity-tp4676904p4676981.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] REV1 custom electric racing motorcycle (v)
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/210532-heres-what-racing-a-custom-electric-motorcycle-is-like
Here’s what racing a custom electric motorcycle is like (video)
By Robert Marino July 22, 2015
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RIT EVT Jul 19, 2015
A front view of REV1 running the track on Saturday during the eMotoRacing
varsity challenge - July 2015.
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For some time now, every year in Millville, New Jersey, colleges and other
competitors from different locations build and race electric motorcycles in
the hopes of taking home the win and zapping the competition at the
e-MotoRacing all-electric race series.
This year, however, was different. From July 10-12, RIT was the only college
that showed up. It represented the underdog in a race of one of six
experienced bike teams to compete in the all-electric vehicle race. Although
competitor’s bike components were normally top secret, I was able to gain
some insight as to what the RIT bike ran on from an exclusive interview with
the EVT (Electronic Vehicle Team).
Here’s what I learned: The REV1 (RIT Electric Vehicle 1) was designed around
a 2005 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6RR chassis. The bike’s gasoline components were
gutted until the inner chassis was bare and built from the ground up.
For power, the bike utilizes a Zero Z-Force 75-7 motor paired with a Sevcon
size 6 controller, which takes the DC current from the batteries and
converts it to AC for the motor to utilize. This also allows the bike’s top
speed to vary from 100-120mph. The motor generates a maximum power of 54hp
at 4300rpm and 68 foot-pounds of torque, making this bike capable of
launching from 0-60 mph in just 5.2 seconds.(Barry Allen would be pleased
with this speed.)
Not only did the team fabricate their own battery management system, battery
containment modules, and structural framing for the powertrain, but they did
it while utilizing in-house data collection and analysis software to enable
for maximum efficiency.
Before the race began, I had the chance to meet the team’s designated rider,
Karl Smolenski, an Engineer at the Cornell Laboratory for Accelerator-based
Sciences and Education and a true bike enthusiast. Both he and the crew were
ecstatic as the underdog team wheeled the bike to the track. The bike was
equipped with two Go Pro cameras; one in the middle of the front fender
(embedded below) and the other on the right rear fender for different
angles.
Saturday’s race started strong as the bike dominated through its first two
laps, but as time progressed, the batteries started to die down quickly.
This caused a significant decrease in power output and the bike to fall
behind. The same inevitable results occurred the following day. (See the
Race results for Saturday and Sunday’s eSuperSport race here).
The Team’s spirits were far from crushed when they received fifth place,
though. Instead, the they celebrated by discussing improvements to be made
next year, cheering as they watched the GoPro footage and sharing the good
sportsmanship as they took photographs with their competitors:
In spite of the commotion, I had the opportunity to follow up with Jeffrey
Botticello, EVT’s Administrative Leader, to discuss what had gone wrong with
the bike and how they planned to fix it. His response is as follows:
“We determined that the reason why the bike dropped speed so much in the
later laps was because the battery voltage was dropping below what the motor
controller was expecting from them. This caused a dip in power. We plan on
remedying this problem by adding two extra battery cells to increase the
total voltage of the pack.”
Next year, after several planned modifications have been made, the team
endeavors to compete in the race and take home the win.
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[EVDL] EVLN: Racing to make the best EV in the Las_Vegas-NV valley
http://www.tribtown.com/view/story/5036fa83716b420886fabeb3f15c6fee/NV--Electric-Cars-Competitors Race is on to make the best electric car in the valley By DANIEL ROTHBERG, Las Vegas Sun July 24, 2015 LAS VEGAS — Long before Tesla announced plans to build a $5 billion electric battery factory near Reno, a local group for years had been tracking the quiet rev of the electric car industry in and around the valley. On the website of the Las Vegas Electric Vehicle Association is a poster for Lectra Motors, a Las Vegas-based company that in 1981 tried to convert a fleet of Datsuns into all-electric vehicles. The poster features six Datsuns beneath a golden desert sunrise. "The dawn of a new era," its tagline reads. "It lasted for all of about three months before the principal investor pulled his money out and went home," said Lloyd Wayne Reece, president of the Las Vegas Electric Vehicle Association. Three decades later, electric vehicle sales, though growing, still represent a small fraction of total car sales in the United States. The new era Lectra Motors promised has not dawned. But in fits and starts, tinkerers, dreamers and entrepreneurs in the valley have retrofitted, manufactured and assembled electric batteries for the road, the skies, the military and medicine. These are a few of the valley's power players in the electric car business. LOCAL MOTORS Phoenix-based Local Motors, which has a hub downtown, is pursuing an alternate manufacturing approach. The company offers a 3-D-printed car, the Strati, which features an electric engine that can take it 62 miles on one charge. It takes 44 hours to print the car, Local Motors officials say, and the company plans to reduce production time to 24 hours. The goal is to have the car cleared for the road by 2016. The downtown Las Vegas microfactory employs two full-time staffers and additional employees during peak seasons. The location, which includes a retail space, soon will house a large-scale 3-D printer. "Las Vegas is an important hub for the future of electric vehicles, and we're glad to be a part of it," spokesman Adam Kress said. Within the next 10 years, the company hopes to open 100 microfactories around the globe. XTREME GREEN ELECTRIC VEHICLES Xtreme Green Electric Vehicles Inc. runs a 50,000-square-foot factory in North Las Vegas specializing in rugged vehicles. The company has clients in the United States and internationally, in South Africa, Saudi Arabia and a number of South American countries. "We are rapidly working on expanding our overseas presence because they seem to really understand the value of our electric vehicles," founder and CEO Neil Roth said. Roth started his company in the valley because he lives here. But Nevada is a good place to do business -- the leasing conditions and tax incentives are beneficial, he says. Roth, who praised Gov. Brian Sandoval's administration for its focus on creating jobs and diversifying the economy, will travel with the governor to Poland this summer on a trade mission. For now, XTreme focuses exclusively on manufacturing outdoor utility vehicles, ATVs and service vehicles for police departments, park services and universities. Not only are the vehicles electric and green, but keeping them running is cheaper than gasoline, he said. For every $1,000 spent on gas, Roth said, only about $10 is spent on electric. By producing ATVs and utility vehicles, Xtreme has carved out a steady niche for itself. But the company hasn't reached the point of branching out into consumer products. "We need to expand and create the cash flow we need to go into that business," Roth said. MIMS MOTORS Talk to Eric Mims, CEO of Mims Motors, for five minutes, and he will present in detail his vision to market an electric car to the masses. Mims claims to have developed a two-seater prototype that can travel, on a single charge, more than three times the distance of the Tesla Model S, which achieves a range of 270 miles. Mims said recently his company was $2.1 million and 48 weeks away from being able to put cars on the road and up for sale. The company still is raising funds but is taking pre-orders on its website. K2 ENERGY In Henderson, K2 Energy manufactures rechargeable lithium iron phosphate batteries, which K2 officials say are safer than the lithium-ion batteries favored by Tesla. Lithium-ion batteries can explode. "When you have troops involved, or in a medical situation, you want the safest batteries on the market," marketing director Lysle Oliveros said. Nine years ago, K2 started with about four employees and a couple of card tables. It since has grown to include about 65 employees. K2 doesn't specifically focus on cars, but Oliveros says the company's batteries are in a lot of vehicles -- including retrofitted older hybrids and many cars produced by high-end manufacturers. But it's hard to justify breaking into the consumer market when many mainstream manufacturers get batteries at a disco
[EVDL] EVLN: Atkinson buys £30k 100mi BMW i3 after selling £8M F1 super-ice
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3171463/Rowan-Atkinson-swaps-8m-McLaren-F1-supercar-electric-BMW-does-100-miles-charge.html
He's a green Bean! Rowan Atkinson swaps his £8m McLaren F1 supercar for
electric BMW that does 100 miles on a full charge
By Simon Cable 22 July 2015
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City runaround: The Mr Bean star stands next to his electric BMW i3, which
costs £30,000 and reaches 93mph
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- Mr Bean actor has been seen in an electric BMW i3, which costs £30,000
- With top speed of 93mph it's a stark contrast to F1, that can reach 240mph
- He sold the supercar earlier this year - 18 years after he paid £634,000
for it
- Economical runaround could save on insurance and the congestion charge
After pocketing £8million from the sale of his beloved McLaren F1, you might
have expected Rowan Atkinson to splash out on another supercar.
But the Mr Bean actor appears to have opted for something a bit more
economical – and eco-friendly.
The comedian has been seen in an electric BMW i3, which costs £30,000 and
has a top speed of 93mph.
It is in stark contrast to his prized F1, one of only 64 in the world, which
was capable of reaching a thrilling 240mph.
The actor sold the supercar earlier this year, 18 years after he paid
£634,000 for it.
However, while the sought after sports car completed less than 10 miles to
the gallon, his new runaround has a range of up to 100 miles on a full
charge.
It will also save the Blackadder star a significant sum on his insurance
bill. The annual cost to insure his F1, which he once crashed into a tree in
2011, was said to be around £60,000.
In 2013 he successfully claimed £910,000 from his insurers to fix the
supercar – the highest repair bill ever recorded in Britain.
[image] Flash: Rowan Atkinson poses with a McLaren F1. He bought one of
just 64 made in the world and it has a top speed of 240mph
His BMW however, is so cost effective that it is even exempt from the
£11.50-a-day London Congestion Zone charge because it is considered so
environmentally friendly.
It is charged using public power points or even standard plug sockets, and
takes four hours to achieve a full charge from empty.
Atkinson, said to be worth £71million, owns an impressive collection that
includes a Honda NSX, a Jaguar Mk7, an Aston Martin DB2, a vintage Ford
Falcon, a 1939 BMW 328 and a Rolls-Royce Phantom Coupe.
Earlier this month it was revealed that the 60-year-old comic actor is
selling his former family home in Oxfordshire following the break-up of his
24-year marriage to wife Sunetra, 53, in February last year.
He is now dating comedian Louise Ford, 32, and bought a £4.65million house
in North London last September.
[video] Take a look inside Rowan Atkinson's McLaren F1 supercar
[image] Smash: The supercar at the roadside after spinning off the A605 in
Haddon near Peterborough in August 2011
[image] Result: In 2013 he successfully claimed £910,000 from his insurers
to fix the supercar – the highest repair bill ever recorded in Britain
The house sale has fuelled speculation that Rowan could be heading for a
costly divorce from Sunetra, with whom he has two children, Ben, 21, and
Lily, 19.
Atkinson first met his wife in the late 1980s, when she was working as a BBC
make-up artist, and they wed in 1990.
The couple were building an £11 million dream home elsewhere in Oxfordshire
when they split last year.
Atkinson met stand-up comic Ford - star of Sky sitcom Chickens - in 2003
when they starred together in the West End play Quartermaine’s Terms.
[image] Fleet: Rowan Atkinson climbs into a gull wing Mercedes SLS which
cost £200,000. He owns an impressive collection that includes a Honda NSX, a
Jaguar Mk7, an Aston Martin DB2 and a vintage Ford Falcon
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“Mr. Bean” Rowan Atkinson spotted in a BMW i3
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