[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20171022
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Liberty-Mutual-s-InsureMyTesla-change-providers-if-EV-insurance-goes-up-tp4688311.html
EVLN: Liberty Mutual's InsureMyTesla> (change providers if EV insurance goes
up)
Liberty Mutual Insurance Tailors Policy for Tesla Electric Car Drivers ...
Tesla Inc. is partnering with Liberty Mutual Insurance Co. to offer an
auto-insurance plan designed specifically for its electric cars in the U.S.
... Tailors Policy for Tesla ...
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Toyota-Mazda-Denso-jointly-launch-EV-tech-firm-tp4688310.html
EVLN: Toyota,Mazda,Denso jointly launch EV tech firm
Toyota Motor Corp., Mazda Motor Corp. and Denso Corp. plan to jointly launch
a new company to develop base technologies for use in electric vehicles ...
that will see the three companies establish a new company for the
development of EVs ...
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Calculator-shows-If-It-s-Cheaper-To-Use-Uber-or-Own-An-EV-tp4688309.html
EVLN: Calculator shows If It's Cheaper To Use Uber or Own An EV
Electric cars are likely to become more commonly used for ride-hailing,
particularly as companies like Lyft start to use autonomous cars and own
their own fleets ...
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Shell-shock-oil-company-embraces-EVs-with-Shell-Recharge-charging-tp4688308.html
Shell shock> oil company embraces EVs with 'Shell Recharge' charging
The move into electric car charging follows Shell's acquisition of
NewMotion, an electric car charging company with 30,000 private home
charging points and 50,000 public sites ...
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[EVDL] EVLN: Liberty Mutual's InsureMyTesla> (change providers if EV insurance goes up)
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2017/10/16/467543.htm
Liberty Mutual Insurance Tailors Policy for Tesla Electric Car Drivers in
U.S.
October 16, 2017 Anne Riley Moffat
Tesla Inc. is partnering with Liberty Mutual Insurance Co. to offer an
auto-insurance plan designed specifically for its electric cars in the U.S.
The plan made available to U.S. customers starting Friday is similar to what
Tesla owners have been offered in almost 20 countries. Among other benefits,
Liberty will offer to replace damaged Teslas that are deemed a total loss
within the first year, according to the automaker’s website.
A Tesla spokesman confirmed the U.S. launch and declined to comment further.
The launch of InsureMyTesla in the U.S. comes after Chief Executive Officer
Elon Musk took issue with reports earlier this year that insurer AAA was
raising rates to insure Tesla vehicles in some markets, citing high claim
frequencies and costs. Musk disputed the insurer’s analysis, saying during
Tesla’s annual meeting in June that the automaker’s own internal study
showed the average cost of insuring a Model S or Model X was about 5 percent
lower than for other premium vehicles.
If a Tesla driver’s insurance goes up, “there is a simple solution,” Musk
said. “Change your insurance provider.”
[© insurancejournal.com 2017 Bloomberg]
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InsureMyTesla is a comprehensive insurance plan developed in cooperation
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[EVDL] EVLN: Toyota,Mazda,Denso jointly launch EV tech firm
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/09/28/business/corporate-business/toyota-mazda-denso-agree-jointly-launch-ev-tech-firm/
Toyota, Mazda, Denso agree to jointly launch EV tech firm
Sep 28, 2017 Kyodo
Toyota Motor Corp., Mazda Motor Corp. and Denso Corp. plan to jointly launch
a new company to develop base technologies for use in electric vehicles,
sources close to the matter said Thursday.
Last month, Toyota and Mazda agreed to form a capital tie-up to strengthen
cooperation in areas including electric vehicle development, while
announcing a plan to begin building cars together in the United States.
By adding auto parts maker Denso, part of the Toyota group, the new firm to
be launched by the Japanese entities will aim to make parts that can be used
in various types of cars. The addition will also help reduce the costs
shouldered by each.
Under the agreement, Toyota will take a 5.05 percent stake in Mazda for ¥50
billion ($442 million) and Mazda will buy a 0.25 percent stake in Toyota
equivalent in value to the Mazda shares.
[© Japan Times]
https://inhabitat.com/toyota-and-mazda-establish-a-new-company-for-electric-cars/
Toyota and Mazda establish a new company for electric cars
10/18/2017 Marc Carter
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Toyota, Mazda and Denso have signed a new partnership through which they
will jointly establish a new company for the development of electric cars.
Neither Toyota nor Mazda offer any fully electric vehicles in their lineup
yet, so the new partnership will give both automakers the basic structural
components for EVs.
For automakers to survive the changing automotive industry, they need to be
able to produce several types of powertrains, including electric and fuel
cell vehicles. Toyota, Mazda and Denso have decided to team up for better
capability of developing electric technology that can be applied to a
variety of vehicles, improving their response time to the changing market
trends.
The new company, called EV Common Architecture Spirit Co Ltd. will leverage
Mazda’s product planning and computer modeling-based development, Denso’s
electronics technologies, and the Toyota New Global Architecture platform.
The TNGA platform is already used by models like the 2018 Toyota Camry and
the latest-generation Prius. Toyota will own 90 percent of the company,
while Mazda and Denso will each have a 5 percent share. The new agreement
covers a diverse range of models, from mini vehicles to passenger vehicles,
SUVs, and light trucks.
Toyota and Mazda are both behind most other automakers, since neither of
them have focused on fully-electric vehicles. Toyota has focused its
energies on hybrid powertrains, while Mazda continues to focus on improving
the internal combustion engine. With countries now mandating zero-emissions
vehicles, the partnership will not only help both automakers catch up to
their competitors, but also bring new electric cars to market sooner. Mazda
has already announced that it will introduce electrified powertrains as
early as 2019.
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[EVDL] EVLN: Calculator shows If It's Cheaper To Use Uber or Own An EV
https://www.fastcompany.com/40482056/this-calculator-tells-you-if-its-cheaper-to-use-uber-than-own-a-car This Calculator Tells You If It’s Cheaper To Use Uber Than Own A Car 10.19.17 Adele Peters [images https://assets.fastcompany.com/image/upload/w_707,ar_16:9,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_lossy/wp-cms/uploads/2017/10/p-1-this-calculator-tells-you-if-its-cheaper-to-use-uber-than-own-a-car.jpg Owning a car might be more expensive than you think. This Calculator Tells You If It’s Cheaper To Use Uber Than Own A Car / Nisian Hughes/Getty https://assets.fastcompany.com/image/upload/w_596,c_limit,q_auto:best,f_auto,fl_lossy/wp-cms/uploads/2017/10/i-1-this-calculator-tells-you-if-its-cheaper-to-use-uber-than-own-a-car.jpg Screenshot: Ride or Drive http://www.rideordrive.org/calculator ] Taking Uber or Lyft to and from work and to run errands might seem more expensive than driving yourself–but in many cases, relying on a ride-hailing service is cheaper than buying and using a car of your own. A new calculator [ http://www.rideordrive.org/calculator ] compares both scenarios, and might help you decide to ditch car ownership entirely. “The goal of this work was to try to basically take the true, full cost of ownership–all of the obvious and non-obvious costs associated with owning a car–and then begin to compare it to mobility services,” Todd Davidson, a research associate and lecturer at the University of Texas at Austin’s Energy Institute and Webber Energy Group, tells Fast Company. Davidson is part of a team that created the Ride or Drive calculator. In the calculator, you can plug in the sticker price of a new car, details about your loan, and how much you drive. You can also tweak details about how much you spend on maintenance, insurance, gas, and registration. But the tool also includes costs that people likely never consider, such as property taxes you pay on your garage, or the value of the time you spend stuck behind the wheel. “The value of your time is something that I don’t think most people account for at all when it comes to transportation,” Davidson says. “People might understand it in the sense that they realize how long it takes them to get to work, but I’m not sure people are really internalizing what an alternative might be and whether or not it would save them money.” (The calculator also considers the time that riders usually wait for a ride-hailing car.) In some cases–if you drive a lot and have a cheap, fuel-efficient car that you plan to keep for a long time, for example–the calculator suggests that buying a car makes more sense than a ride-hailing app. The researchers didn’t design the tool to advocate for people to get rid of cars, but wanted to challenge the common assumption that owning a car is the better choice, and educate people so that they can fairly compare the tradeoffs. The calculator is one part of a larger research project that attempts to understand how transportation patterns may shift in the near future, and what that means for carbon emissions. By better understanding the economic drivers of transportation choices (including public transit, though it isn’t included in the simplified public app), the University of Texas researchers plan to estimate how many drivers may make the shift to ride-hailing and what impacts that could have on energy use. Electric cars are likely to become more commonly used for ride-hailing, particularly as companies like Lyft start to use autonomous cars and own their own fleets rather than using drivers’ vehicles. As that shift accelerates, emissions are likely to decrease. “When most people talk about energy consumption and CO2 emissions, a lot of the focus of the discussion gets shifted towards the electric grid, when in reality a lot of the lowest hanging fruit is in the transportation sector,” says Davidson. The electric grid has already started to shift to lower emissions as coal plants close and renewable energy grows–and as cars plug into a cleaner grid instead of using gas, that will impact climate pollution. [image] “Even though we are seeing a major shift in terms of millennials’ consumption behavior being different from prior generations, I do think that vehicles provide an opportunity for conspicuous consumption.” / Mike Coppola/Getty Images A shift to autonomous cars could make ride-hailing significantly cheaper, further accelerating a trend away from car ownership. Earlier this year, one report suggested that taking electric, self-driving taxis could be 10 times cheaper than owning a car by 2030, and that the vast majority of miles traveled would happen in those cars. Another report, which looked at a few specific cities, predicted that 2 million people in Los Angeles would give up their cars for ride-hailing in roughly the same amount of time. Davidson is more cautious. “I think many people do love cars,” he says. “And even though we are seeing a major shift in terms of millennials’ consumption behavio
[EVDL] Shell shock> oil company embraces EVs with 'Shell Recharge' charging
https://www.driving.co.uk/news/shell-shock-oil-company-embraces-electric-cars-new-charging-points/ Shell shock: oil company embraces electric cars with new charging points 18 October 2017 James Mills [image https://www.driving.co.uk/s3/st-driving-prod/uploads/2017/10/Shell-Recharge-service-station-for-electric-car-charging-720x448.jpg (she sits in her EV gazing at the (level/)type3 & 2 EVSE while holding a coffee) ] SHELL, one of the world’s largest oil companies, is to introduce charging points for electric cars at service stations across Britain. The new rapid chargers are able to replenish an electric car’s flat battery to around 80% of its capacity within 30 minutes. By the end of the year, 10 Shell service stations will be fitted with the charging points, as the company takes its first steps towards preparing for a shift from diesel and petrol powered vehicles to hybrid and electric models — using the UK roll-out as a test for other markets. Approximately a quarter of the world’s cars will be electric by 2040, says the Anglo-Dutch oil company. Called Shell Recharge, the charging points are 50kW DC fast chargers that can be used by any driver, without the need to sign up to a subscription service. Instead, a smartphone app handles the payment. Customers will initially pay 25p per kilowatt-hour, until June, 2018, when prices will rise to 49p. The brand is offering the service at its Holloway, Whyteleafe and Derby service stations initially, followed by seven more locations around London and Reading in 2018. The company says its chargers will work with the combined charging system (CCS), Chademo and AC Type 2 (43kW) and adds that it is “looking to provide Tesla adapters in the near future at all Shell Recharge locations.” To date this year, 94,093 electric and hybrid cars have been sold in the UK, compared with 69,933 over the same period last year, a rise of 34 per cent. “This is a new space for Shell,” Jane Lindsay-Green, Shell UK future fuels manager, told Reuters. “We’re starting small and are going to learn quickly. Then we’re going to move in 2018 based on what our customers want,” The move into electric car charging follows Shell’s acquisition of NewMotion, an electric car charging company with 30,000 private home charging points and 50,000 public sites. [© driving.co.uk] http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/868053/Shell-UK-garage-electric-car-charger Shell opens first 'Recharge' electric car stations offering rapid charging Oct 19, 2017 Shell Recharge is the name of the company's Electric Vehicle (EV) forecourt which offers a rapid charging service. The three locations these electric car charging ... Jaguar and Shell's in-car fuel payment system explained ... [images http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/213481.jpg http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/213482.jpg http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/213478.jpg http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/213473.jpg ] ... recharge their EV and also benefit from free Wi-Fi, food & coffee from the forecourt ... ... https://www.energyvoice.com/otherenergy/153500/shell-switches-rapid-recharge-electric-vehicles/ Shell switches on to 'rapid recharge' for electric vehicles 18/10/2017 ... Shell Recharge provides Electric Vehicle drivers with a convenient way to charge their cars on-the-go ... The service arrives following Shell’s announcement last week that it has signed an agreement to buy NewMotion, one of Europe’s largest EV charging providers ... ... https://www.ft.com/content/c95af60c-b33c-11e7-aa26-bb002965bce8 Shell opens its first UK electric vehicle charging points October 17, 2017 Royal Dutch Shell has opened its first charging points for electric vehicles at UK filling stations ... Charging points to sit alongside petrol and diesel pumps at filling stations ... Drivers will be able to recharge EVs at 10 locations, mostly in London and south-east England ... ... http://www.nacsonline.com/YourBusiness/FuelsCenter/Petroleum/News/Pages/ND1018175.aspx Shell to Acquire Charging Provider NewMotion October 18, 2017 This is the first acquisition by Shell in the electric charging sphere. Currently, the oil company has more than 30,000 EV charge points in Europe ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Shell-s-traditional-looking-pump-EVSE-0-49-kWh-far-too-co-tly-tp4688087.html Shell’s traditional looking “pump” EVSE> £0.49/kWh= far too co$tly Oct 01 2017 ... [dated] http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Shell-deploying-dual-DC-L3-50kW-EVSE-at-its-uk-nl-gas-stations-tp4687447.html Shell deploying dual DC (L3) 50kW EVSE at its .uk& .nl gas stations Jul 26 2017 ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/European-shell-co-uk-total-co-uk-ice-stations-to-offer-EVSE-v-tp4685687.html European shell.co.uk & total.co.uk ice-stations to offer EVSE (v) Feb 06 2017 ... http://electric-vehi
Re: [EVDL] 85 Year Old Uncle Worked 30+ Years on EV, Needs Help
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I had a Jet Courier truck using the same controller. It was reliable. However a simple Curtis/Chopper controller is much easier to set up and I bet someone would donate one to Gramps if asked. They are also more efficient. The EV-1 is pretty efficient; notice that it has no fans or heatsinks. There is also a "bypass" mode where it closes a contactor so it's simply straight through to the battery (100% efficient). The hangup is that the EV-1 has no input filter capacitors; so nothing prevents the battery from seeing its pulsing on/off current. This didn't matter with huge industrial batteries. But it's hard on small batteries, whose Peukert exponent means that their amphour capacity is less when drawing (say) a 0a - 200a pulsating current instead of 100a continuous current. Modern controllers use a big bank of electrolytic filter capacitors on their input. They also run at 15 KHz or more, which reduces the size of the capacitors needed. The EV-1 runs at more like 1.5 KHz, so it would need 10 times more capacitance to accomplish this filtering. -- In computing, the mean time to failure keeps getting shorter. (Alan Perlis) -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 85 Year Old Uncle Worked 30+ Years on EV, Needs Help
I thought I recognised the car.. https://www.rqriley.com/tm.html On 22 October 2017 at 20:54, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > I had a Jet Courier truck using the same controller. It was reliable. > However a simple Curtis/Chopper controller is much easier to set up and I bet > someone would donate one to Gramps if asked. They are also more efficient. > Lawrence Rhodes > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20171022/f2a2d8ac/attachment.html> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 85 Year Old Uncle Worked 30+ Years on EV, Needs Help
I had a Jet Courier truck using the same controller. It was reliable. However a simple Curtis/Chopper controller is much easier to set up and I bet someone would donate one to Gramps if asked. They are also more efficient. Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20171022/f2a2d8ac/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] How important is the ability to recharge w/o plugging in a cord?> Does wireless matter?
A simple thought experiment
If you are charging at a paltry 6.6kW, and inductively charging, and losing a
mere 5% due to "The pain of plugging in" you lose over 300 watts, or 3, 100
watt lightbulbs under your vehicle, making a nice warm place for critters in
the winter.
If you are charging inductively at 19.2kW, and using "lossy" inductive charging
at "only 5%" you have a 960 watt, electric stove eye on _high_ right under the
vehicle, really heating stuff up
Are folks _really_ comfortable with putting electric resistance heaters of 300
to 960+ watts right underneath very expensive vehicles, right next to the
batteries that need active or passive _cooling_?
How long would you hold your hand 5-10 inches away from an electric stove on
high? Would you willingly heat your battery extra, reducing the lifespan?
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Subject: [EVDL] How important is the ability to recharge w/o plugging in a
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https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1113306_how-much-does-wireless-charging-matter-for-electric-cars-poll-results
How much does wireless charging matter for electric cars? Poll results
Oct 17, 2017 John Voelcker
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2018 BMW 530e iPerformance wireless charging
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The announcements by BMW and Mercedes-Benz that they would offer wireless
charging as an option next year raise a question for electric-car advocates.
How important is the ability to recharge a vehicle without plugging in a
cord?
On the pro side, wireless charging may be easier for owners and drivers, who
don't have to remember to plug in the charging cable when they park.
As envisioned by makers of inductive charging equipment (as it's formally
known), semi-autonomous cars of the future would even know how to position
themselves over the charging mat.
That means drivers would be relieved of the need to ensure the car is in
exactly the right place to enable the two coils—one in the mat on the
ground, the other on the undercarriage of the car—to align.
Such self-driving features are likely to be introduced first at the top end
of the market, so it makes sense that the two German brands will offer the
option on pricey plug-in hybrid sedan models.
On the other hand, purchase and installation of wireless charging equipment
isn't cheap, currently running several thousand dollars.
That includes buying and installing the charging mat, which may require
trenching for the power cable (depending on local building codes) and then
installing the coil underneath the car itself.
Most electric-car owners seem to feel that plugging in a car to charge isn't
that big a hassle. Charging stations for personal use, meanwhile, now run
from $400 to $1,000, and every plug-in car comes with a charging port built
in.
We surveyed our Twitter followers to see how important they thought wireless
charging would be for plug-in electric vehicles in the future.
The results came down pretty firmly on the "nice to have but not a
game-changer" side: 45 percent called wireless charging "a nice option."
Another 35 percent thought it wasn't necessary, at least for them, choosing
the "Plugs are all you need" response.
Just 14 percent of respondents felt that wireless charging was "the best!"
and the remaining 6 percent felt it would be a low-volume option on cars of
the future.
We take away from this pretty much what we'd expected: wireless charging may
be an appealing option for some buyers, but it's probably not going to have
a huge effect on electric cars in general.
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