[EVDL] Wanted: S10 EV -Answers to questions
Hi, To answer some of the questions that have been asked about my wanted ad for a factory built 1997-1998 Chevy S10 EV: *Question:* / "It would be helpful to evdl members to why a factory S-10 EV over a newer converted ice S-10 truck (or even a colorado ice truck)"/ *Answer:* I come from a line of GM factory workers, so a GM built EV has a special place in my heart. Plus the significant history of the vehicle, having the EV1 drive train I think is really cool. I realize that the only place to get parts for them are from the other remaining S10s out there, so that is a significant challenge that I acknowledge. *Question:* "/It would help if you gave your location and rough price you are looking to spend. Also, are you able to do your own maintenance/repairs on an EV?"/ *Answer:* Location= Indiana Price range = Based on my research of what I could find this is what I have seen them going for: 1997 bought in 2019 (with dead batteries) for $1800 https://www.thedrive.com/news/31349/forget-the-cybertruck-get-yourself-a-factory-1997-chevrolet-s-10-electric-pickup 1997 sold in 2019 (with dead batteries) for $2500: https://www.hardworkingtrucks.com/factory-original-electric-chevy-s-10-ford-ranger-up-for-sale/ 1997 bought for $2400 in June 2020: (link says $2000, but I ended getting in contact with the owner and he gave me the details): https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Chevrolet-Other-Pickups-/313115014078?hash=item48e71bf3be%3Ag%3Aak8AAOSwNG5e5QVH=true=2l7g6yw%252BU14EXnotBCAaXH0SbJM%253D_cvip=true=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#viTabs_1 1997 sold in 2019 in working condition for $8000: https://www.diyelectriccar.com/threads/for-sale-1997-chevrolet-s10electric-8k-obo.200955/#post-1043161 So based on that I am looking for a non-working one in the 2000-3000 range or a working one in the 7500-8500 range. I do have a preference for the 1998 one because it has a passenger airbag and I believe my future passengers would appreciate the piece of mind of having one there. I am open to getting one from anywhere in the US. As far as maintenance and repairs. My previous experience has been working on electric golf carts and have built my own electric go carts from scratch. I realize this is very different than working on a EV vehicle, but I am not starting from 0. I view this as a fun learning project that has a amazing history to it. Thanks for the questions. -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] wanted s10 ev
The Dolphin is a sweet controller. Very simple to understand and program. I
am selling a US Electricar Geo Prizm in great condition on eBay. I just put
in new Lead Acid batteries and potentiometers. Make me an offer!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133482361615
Billy
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:57 PM EVDL Administrator via EV <
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> On 22 Aug 2020 at 17:54, paul dove via EV wrote:
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>
>
> > We have one of the factory S10 EV with a dolphin controller up for sale
> on
>
> > our website www.greenshedconversions.com
>
>
>
> Not sure what you mean by "factory S10 EV." if you mean "converted in a GM
>
> factory," then not really. That conversion wasn't done by GM.
>
>
>
> What you have there is one of the US Electricar conversions from the mid-
>
> 1990s. USE also converted Geo Prizms. I am not aware that a significant
>
> number of them made their ways to Europe.
>
>
>
> The name US Electricar can throw you off a bit as there were two unrelated
>
> companies by that name.
>
>
>
> An earlier one founded by Chandler Waterman in Athol, MA from 1979
> converted
>
> Renault R5s ("Le Car" -> "Lectric Leopard"), and I think a few other
> cars.
>
>
>
> https://cartype.com/pages/7110/us_electricar_corporation
>
>
>
> The later US Electricar was headquartered in Santa Rosa CA and for a brief
>
> time from mid-1994 converted Chevrolet S10s and Geo Prizms using Hughes
>
> Dolphin drive systems.
>
>
>
> https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Sputtering-U-S-Electricar-Hits-a-
>
> Cash-Wall-3040263.php
>
>
>
> You can see a few USE S10s at evalbum.com.
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Paul. Expecting $9,000 for that truck is probably
> more
>
> than a little optimistic.
>
>
>
> I may be going a bit too far to the pessimistic side, but IMO given the
>
> current conversion market and its non-running condition, yours might be
>
> worth something closer to $900.
>
>
>
> Here's a '94 USE S10 offered back in 2003 for $5k - in running condition.
>
>
>
> http://mattvideo.com/electric/_disc1/002e.htm
>
>
>
> The USE S10s and Prizms can't compare to modern factory EVs, but they were
>
> actually pretty nice conversions for their time. Fifteen to 20 years ago,
>
> lots of folks who had USE vehicles really liked them. The battery costs
>
> were daunting, though. They used a big tray full of expensive AGMs.
>
>
>
> By the late 1990s, spare parts for them were already a problem. Back then
>
> we had an EVDL poster who was asking how he could re-convert his dead USE
>
> S10 using a more conventional DC motor.
>
>
>
> There used to be a Yahoo Group for USE support. I don't know what's
>
> happened to it since Yahoo tore down their groups' infrastructure, but
> IIRC
>
> they had quite a lot of troubleshooting information. If you could get
> your
>
> drive system going and upgrade the battery to lithium you'd probably have
>
> something.
>
>
>
> I don't know whether it'd be $9k worth, though. At this point probably
> most
>
> folks who are interested in EV pickups will be sitting tight for the
> Tesla,
>
> Rivian, or possibly one of the possibly-vaporware Ford or GM E-pickups
>
> promised for later.
>
>
>
> In any case, good luck with it.
>
>
>
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Re: [EVDL] excellent EV project cars
What voltage are these? I have an electric A/C compressor that I am not sure but "think" that is what it was for. I will check the cars out on Google, your link doesn't seem to work. Dach. "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are" - Theodore Roosevelt “We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters’ paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view.” - Aldo Leopold On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 3:01:41 PM MST, Paul Compton via EV wrote: Controllers are easy. Just pair a dirt cheap Prius inverter with an open source ECU. openinverter.org On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 22:46, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > Speaking of a goldmine of used EV cars, consider the 400 THINKS that were > imported to the USA in the 2012 time frame. > > They have AC motors, but once the controller goes, its hard to find a > working controller. > > I keep hoping that an energetic EVDL hacker will figure out how to hook up > an off the shelf AC motor controller to the motor and just abandon the > original.. > > I have two of these, and a guy in the same neighborhood has 4. The main > places to find them are the mid-atlantic states, Indianna and a large > pocket of them in Oregon (where the only knowledgible tech lives). > > They go for about $500 to $1500. though built in Europe, they use mostly > FORD parts > Their original range was about 100 miles. Use lithium cells. > You can see mine at the top of th is page: http://aprs.org/my-EVs/html > > bob > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/e89fe9ea/attachment.html> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/cf80cbbe/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] wanted s10 ev
I’ve got one of the 1994.5 versions of the USE S10. It didn’t have many miles
on it when I got it, but as has been noted, data and parts were hard to come by
and it wasn’t running. I took out the Hughes bits and replaced with a PM100
inverter and Siemens motor for the drive train. I was able to fit 100 of the
CALB 100ah blue cells in the original box under the bed and used a Lithiumate
Pro BMS, which has worked quite well over the last 10 years. Now the CALBs are
tired and there are a couple of stinkers in the pack limiting my range from the
original 80 miles or so to now no more than 25 miles if the route is mostly
flat and I don’t go fast. The next update is to swap out the CALBs for 12
Tesla S modules and an Orion BMS 2. Which means I need to get the air
conditioning installed for a battery chiller. The Orion will give me much
better level 2 charging and also Chademo DCFC. In Oregon, the Chademo chargers
are numerous very well placed, even on many of the secondary highways and
faction spots, unlike the CCS combo chargers.
Bottom line is that the rolling chassis is a good base platform, especially if
it hasn’t been parked outside for a couple of decades. I would think that even
some hotrodder who wants to put a large ICE power plant in it might pay $900 if
it is in good condition.
Paul Wallace
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> On 22 Aug 2020 at 17:54, paul dove via EV wrote:
>
>> We have one of the factory S10 EV with a dolphin controller up for sale on
>> our website www.greenshedconversions.com
>
> Not sure what you mean by "factory S10 EV." if you mean "converted in a GM
> factory," then not really. That conversion wasn't done by GM.
>
> What you have there is one of the US Electricar conversions from the mid-
> 1990s. USE also converted Geo Prizms. I am not aware that a significant
> number of them made their ways to Europe.
>
> The name US Electricar can throw you off a bit as there were two unrelated
> companies by that name.
>
> An earlier one founded by Chandler Waterman in Athol, MA from 1979 converted
> Renault R5s ("Le Car" -> "Lectric Leopard"), and I think a few other cars.
>
> https://cartype.com/pages/7110/us_electricar_corporation
>
> The later US Electricar was headquartered in Santa Rosa CA and for a brief
> time from mid-1994 converted Chevrolet S10s and Geo Prizms using Hughes
> Dolphin drive systems.
>
> https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Sputtering-U-S-Electricar-Hits-a-
> Cash-Wall-3040263.php
>
> You can see a few USE S10s at evalbum.com.
>
> I have to agree with Paul. Expecting $9,000 for that truck is probably more
> than a little optimistic.
>
> I may be going a bit too far to the pessimistic side, but IMO given the
> current conversion market and its non-running condition, yours might be
> worth something closer to $900.
>
> Here's a '94 USE S10 offered back in 2003 for $5k - in running condition.
>
> http://mattvideo.com/electric/_disc1/002e.htm
>
> The USE S10s and Prizms can't compare to modern factory EVs, but they were
> actually pretty nice conversions for their time. Fifteen to 20 years ago,
> lots of folks who had USE vehicles really liked them. The battery costs
> were daunting, though. They used a big tray full of expensive AGMs.
>
> By the late 1990s, spare parts for them were already a problem. Back then
> we had an EVDL poster who was asking how he could re-convert his dead USE
> S10 using a more conventional DC motor.
>
> There used to be a Yahoo Group for USE support. I don't know what's
> happened to it since Yahoo tore down their groups' infrastructure, but IIRC
> they had quite a lot of troubleshooting information. If you could get your
> drive system going and upgrade the battery to lithium you'd probably have
> something.
>
> I don't know whether it'd be $9k worth, though. At this point probably most
> folks who are interested in EV pickups will be sitting tight for the Tesla,
> Rivian, or possibly one of the possibly-vaporware Ford or GM E-pickups
> promised for later.
>
> In any case, good luck with it.
>
> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
>
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Re: [EVDL] FrankenVolt photos posted
Bob, even if your site is a bit disorganized...it is organic, and has a lot of useful and interesting info. I appreciate that you have kept it online all these years without breaking links or removing stuff just because it is 'old'. I also like that it is still in a classic web 1.0 style, meaning it is FAST and works easily on any browser. Too many sites and software applications think they need to use the latest design memes without giving a thought to the consequences. Low contrast fonts, screen space-wasting design, and endless scrolling instead of proper pagination are some of the worst of these design memes. The HTML blink tag of the late 90s also belongs in that category. The EV tie here is Tesla's firmware updates have been following some of the design memes too, (actually similar to what Microsoft has done with Windows). They had virtual UI buttons that were replaced with a flat style. They have also removed some UI features that earlier firmware had. Unfortunately there is no way to apply a custom theme to Tesla firmware (and in the case of Windows...many of the UI color customizations available in Win3.1 and Win95 are no longer possible.) On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 16:38 Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > My total is about 450 web pages (grew over 20 years or so) and MOST are not > linked in any organized way. > It got away from me and justg too hard to go back and figure out what they > are and where to link them. > > In fact, I dont have any way of remembering them or finding them other than > looking at the folder with 450 names in it. > > Bob > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 4:14 PM Gail Lucas via EV > wrote: > > > My favorite is still the Woodie Prius because I love the look of the > > wood. Found an interesting picture on your site that I had missed > > before: the Solar Impulse plane. You have so much stuff out there to > > look at I will have to ration viewing time or get nothing else done. > > > > Gail > > > > > > On 8/22/2020 11:35 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > > I finally took some photos (not best quality) of my > > > FrankenVolt construction. > > > It was really easy, three plywood panels, though painstakingly detailed > > to > > > get the curves to fit. > > > And then add solarpanels. > > > http://aprs.org/FrankenVolt.html > > > > > > Bob > > > -- next part -- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/e02f4770/attachment.html > > > > > > ___ > > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > > > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > > > > ___ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/a84b4810/attachment.html > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/cd3cd353/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] excellent EV project cars
Controllers are easy. Just pair a dirt cheap Prius inverter with an open source ECU. openinverter.org On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 22:46, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > Speaking of a goldmine of used EV cars, consider the 400 THINKS that were > imported to the USA in the 2012 time frame. > > They have AC motors, but once the controller goes, its hard to find a > working controller. > > I keep hoping that an energetic EVDL hacker will figure out how to hook up > an off the shelf AC motor controller to the motor and just abandon the > original.. > > I have two of these, and a guy in the same neighborhood has 4. The main > places to find them are the mid-atlantic states, Indianna and a large > pocket of them in Oregon (where the only knowledgible tech lives). > > They go for about $500 to $1500. though built in Europe, they use mostly > FORD parts > Their original range was about 100 miles. Use lithium cells. > You can see mine at the top of th is page: http://aprs.org/my-EVs/html > > bob > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/e89fe9ea/attachment.html> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- Paul Compton www.morini-mania.co.uk www.paulcompton.co.uk (YouTube channel) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] excellent EV project cars
Speaking of a goldmine of used EV cars, consider the 400 THINKS that were imported to the USA in the 2012 time frame. They have AC motors, but once the controller goes, its hard to find a working controller. I keep hoping that an energetic EVDL hacker will figure out how to hook up an off the shelf AC motor controller to the motor and just abandon the original.. I have two of these, and a guy in the same neighborhood has 4. The main places to find them are the mid-atlantic states, Indianna and a large pocket of them in Oregon (where the only knowledgible tech lives). They go for about $500 to $1500. though built in Europe, they use mostly FORD parts Their original range was about 100 miles. Use lithium cells. You can see mine at the top of th is page: http://aprs.org/my-EVs/html bob -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/e89fe9ea/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] FrankenVolt photos posted
My total is about 450 web pages (grew over 20 years or so) and MOST are not linked in any organized way. It got away from me and justg too hard to go back and figure out what they are and where to link them. In fact, I dont have any way of remembering them or finding them other than looking at the folder with 450 names in it. Bob On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 4:14 PM Gail Lucas via EV wrote: > My favorite is still the Woodie Prius because I love the look of the > wood. Found an interesting picture on your site that I had missed > before: the Solar Impulse plane. You have so much stuff out there to > look at I will have to ration viewing time or get nothing else done. > > Gail > > > On 8/22/2020 11:35 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > I finally took some photos (not best quality) of my > > FrankenVolt construction. > > It was really easy, three plywood panels, though painstakingly detailed > to > > get the curves to fit. > > And then add solarpanels. > > http://aprs.org/FrankenVolt.html > > > > Bob > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/e02f4770/attachment.html > > > > ___ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/a84b4810/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] wanted s10 ev
I unfortunately have to agree. I recently sold my 1993 Honda del Sol conversion. It was still running with all of its original ThunderSky lithium cells, but a couple of them were getting weak and needed individual charging beyond the equalizing charge and the top balancing provided by the MiniBMS system. I sold it for $1500. I was hoping for more around $3000, but didn't get much in the way of interest until I took it below $2000. Based on the responses, it looks like most of the interest was toy/project car for teenagers. I owned it for 10 years and hope the new owners can keep it running. I have my doubts, though. I provided quite a bit of documentation I wrote, but there are just things you have to know when driving a homemade conversion, and it's hard to write them all down. Mike -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:55 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: EVDL Administrator Subject: Re: [EVDL] wanted s10 ev You can see a few USE S10s at evalbum.com. I have to agree with Paul. Expecting $9,000 for that truck is probably more than a little optimistic. I may be going a bit too far to the pessimistic side, but IMO given the current conversion market and its non-running condition, yours might be worth something closer to $900. Here's a '94 USE S10 offered back in 2003 for $5k - in running condition. http://mattvideo.com/electric/_disc1/002e.htm The USE S10s and Prizms can't compare to modern factory EVs, but they were actually pretty nice conversions for their time. Fifteen to 20 years ago, lots of folks who had USE vehicles really liked them. The battery costs were daunting, though. They used a big tray full of expensive AGMs. By the late 1990s, spare parts for them were already a problem. Back then we had an EVDL poster who was asking how he could re-convert his dead USE S10 using a more conventional DC motor. There used to be a Yahoo Group for USE support. I don't know what's happened to it since Yahoo tore down their groups' infrastructure, but IIRC they had quite a lot of troubleshooting information. If you could get your drive system going and upgrade the battery to lithium you'd probably have something. I don't know whether it'd be $9k worth, though. At this point probably most folks who are interested in EV pickups will be sitting tight for the Tesla, Rivian, or possibly one of the possibly-vaporware Ford or GM E-pickups promised for later. In any case, good luck with it. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. -- Carl Sagan = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] FrankenVolt photos posted
My favorite is still the Woodie Prius because I love the look of the wood. Found an interesting picture on your site that I had missed before: the Solar Impulse plane. You have so much stuff out there to look at I will have to ration viewing time or get nothing else done. Gail On 8/22/2020 11:35 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: I finally took some photos (not best quality) of my FrankenVolt construction. It was really easy, three plywood panels, though painstakingly detailed to get the curves to fit. And then add solarpanels. http://aprs.org/FrankenVolt.html Bob -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/e02f4770/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] wanted s10 ev
On 22 Aug 2020 at 17:54, paul dove via EV wrote:
> We have one of the factory S10 EV with a dolphin controller up for sale on
> our website www.greenshedconversions.com
Not sure what you mean by "factory S10 EV." if you mean "converted in a GM
factory," then not really. That conversion wasn't done by GM.
What you have there is one of the US Electricar conversions from the mid-
1990s. USE also converted Geo Prizms. I am not aware that a significant
number of them made their ways to Europe.
The name US Electricar can throw you off a bit as there were two unrelated
companies by that name.
An earlier one founded by Chandler Waterman in Athol, MA from 1979 converted
Renault R5s ("Le Car" -> "Lectric Leopard"), and I think a few other cars.
https://cartype.com/pages/7110/us_electricar_corporation
The later US Electricar was headquartered in Santa Rosa CA and for a brief
time from mid-1994 converted Chevrolet S10s and Geo Prizms using Hughes
Dolphin drive systems.
https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Sputtering-U-S-Electricar-Hits-a-
Cash-Wall-3040263.php
You can see a few USE S10s at evalbum.com.
I have to agree with Paul. Expecting $9,000 for that truck is probably more
than a little optimistic.
I may be going a bit too far to the pessimistic side, but IMO given the
current conversion market and its non-running condition, yours might be
worth something closer to $900.
Here's a '94 USE S10 offered back in 2003 for $5k - in running condition.
http://mattvideo.com/electric/_disc1/002e.htm
The USE S10s and Prizms can't compare to modern factory EVs, but they were
actually pretty nice conversions for their time. Fifteen to 20 years ago,
lots of folks who had USE vehicles really liked them. The battery costs
were daunting, though. They used a big tray full of expensive AGMs.
By the late 1990s, spare parts for them were already a problem. Back then
we had an EVDL poster who was asking how he could re-convert his dead USE
S10 using a more conventional DC motor.
There used to be a Yahoo Group for USE support. I don't know what's
happened to it since Yahoo tore down their groups' infrastructure, but IIRC
they had quite a lot of troubleshooting information. If you could get your
drive system going and upgrade the battery to lithium you'd probably have
something.
I don't know whether it'd be $9k worth, though. At this point probably most
folks who are interested in EV pickups will be sitting tight for the Tesla,
Rivian, or possibly one of the possibly-vaporware Ford or GM E-pickups
promised for later.
In any case, good luck with it.
David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20200824
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Kantanka-Amoanimah-gh-EV-for-students-taxi-drivers-v-tp4698596.html
EVLN: Kantanka Amoanimah .gh EV> for students & taxi drivers (v)
Kwadwo Safo Jnr drops video showing how new electric Kantanka Amoanimah
works
2020-08-12 The CEO of Kantanka Automobile, Kwadwo Safo Junior, has
demonstrated how the new small cars being manufactured actually operate -
The vehicle is electric, which means, for the first time in Ghana, many
drivers will not have to worry about fuel prices or oil changes on their
vehicles - According to Kwadwo Safo, the Kantanka Amoanimah will be very
useful for students and many taxi drivers ...
https://twitter.com/kwadwosafo_Jnr/status/1292794712492056576
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-2500-Nikola-garbage-e-truck-deal-1800-AZ-jobs-tp4698597.html
EVLN: 2500 Nikola garbage e-truck deal> 1800 AZ jobs
Republic Services and Nikola sign deal for 2,500 electric garbage and
recycling trucks
August 10, 2020 ... Phoenix-based Nikola isn't yet making any vehicles in
Arizona but recently broke ground on a Coolidge manufacturing plant that
will start operating next year and had been scheduled to employ around 1,800
people. The trucks will be made in Coolidge and will increase the company's
hiring needs there ...
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/06/05/PPHX/5cafb803-828f-4eaf-a7f5-ee87667a55ff-_E1_8968.JPG
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Hanoi .vn propose using .cn nEVs to shuttle tourists
Carmen Electron> water utility trials EVs
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Chevy-Bolt-Brazil-s-Best-Selling-EV-tp4698572.html
Chevy Bolt> Brazil’s Best-Selling EV
Chevrolet Bolt EV Is Brazil’s Best-Selling Electric Car
Aug 2, 2020 GM also offers the largest network of technical assistance in
the country with regard to electric vehicles ... The Chevrolet Bolt EV has
captured the admiration of consumers in the Brazilian market thanks to its
smart design, fun driving factor and the longest driving range in its
segment, with up to 259 miles on a single charge. In addition, authorized
Bolt EV dealers in Brazil offer fast charging that is four times quicker
than recharging on a conventional 240V outlet ...
https://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-Chevrolet-Bolt-EV-Premier-Brazil-exterior-05.jpg
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[EVDL] EVLN: 2500 Nikola garbage e-truck deal> 1800 AZ jobs
https://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/2020/08/10/republic-services-nikola-deal-electric-trucks/3322938001/
Republic Services and Nikola sign deal for 2,500 electric garbage and
recycling trucks
August 10, 2020 ... Phoenix-based Nikola isn't yet making any vehicles in
Arizona but recently broke ground on a Coolidge manufacturing plant that
will start operating next year and had been scheduled to employ around 1,800
people. The trucks will be made in Coolidge and will increase the company's
hiring needs there ...
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/06/05/PPHX/5cafb803-828f-4eaf-a7f5-ee87667a55ff-_E1_8968.JPG
...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2020/08/10/nikola-rolls-into-electric-trash-truck-business-with-big-order-from-republic-services/#415ae40b6523
... (dated)
https://www.pinalcentral.com/coolidge_examiner/news/semi-truck-plant-announced-in-coolidge-would-employ-up-to-2-000/article_ecc7ccbd-5d23-5103-ae76-b69205f39557.html
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[EVDL] EVLN: Kantanka Amoanimah .gh EV> for students & taxi drivers (v)
https://yen.com.gh/166329-kwadwo-safo-jnr-drops-video-showing-electric-kantanka-amoanimah-works.html
Kwadwo Safo Jnr drops video showing how new electric Kantanka Amoanimah
works
2020-08-12 The CEO of Kantanka Automobile, Kwadwo Safo Junior, has
demonstrated how the new small cars being manufactured actually operate -
The vehicle is electric, which means, for the first time in Ghana, many
drivers will not have to worry about fuel prices or oil changes on their
vehicles - According to Kwadwo Safo, the Kantanka Amoanimah will be very
useful for students and many taxi drivers ...
https://twitter.com/kwadwosafo_Jnr/status/1292794712492056576
...
https://netstorage-yen.akamaized.net/images/1b366e77c665a88b.jpg
+ (Hanoi .vn proposes using .cn nEVs to shuttle tourists)
https://vietreader.com/news/10621-hanoi-to-provide-electric-tourist-car-services-at-8-locations.html
Hanoi to provide electric tourist car services at 8 locations
11.08.2020 Hanoi Department of Transport has proposed starting an electric
tourist car service to eight locations in the city under a project aimed at
mapping out regulations ... electric shuttle bus could help easing traffic
congestion at peak hours at tourist attractions, replacing cyclo and taxi
...
https://cdn.vietreader.com/uploads/posts/2020-08/hanoi-to-provide-electric-tourist-car-services-at-8-locations-1.jpg
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[EVDL] Charging .cn EV explodes in Sanming China (v)
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7vpbzl
Electric car explodes while charging in southern China
August 21 2020 An electric car exploded while charging in southern China's
Sanming on August 20. In the video, an orange car suddenly exploded when
being sprayed with water to cool down. Footage shows firefighters putting
out the fire. Electric car explodes while charging in southern China.
According to reports, smoke came out of the car when it was charging. After
the firefighters received a report, they arrived on site to spray the water
to the car to cool it down. But the vehicle suddenly exploded. Fortunately,
no one was injured ... (video flash)
...
https://www.google.com/search?q=Electric+car+explodes+charging+Sanming+China
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[EVDL] EVent: Rivian R1T 1st EV in women's 2k-km Rebelle Off-Road Rally
https://motorillustrated.com/rivian-r1t-first-ev-entrant-in-rebelle-rally-off-road-event/56825/
Rivian R1T First EV Entrant in Rebelle Rally Off-Road Event
August 20, 2020 Rivian R1T first electric to run 2,000 km Rebelle Rally
women's off-road rally -On-course quick charging available for 750 hp
pickup -Will compete in same class as gas-powered trucks -On-course quick
charging available for 750 hp pickup ... The R1T offers four electric
motors, can wade nearly a metre of water, has 750 hp, and a 650 km on-road
range, but that last one won’t help when the rally route is in the middle of
nowhere and 2,000 km long ...
https://motorillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Rivian-R1T-20006.jpg
https://www.rebellerally.com/
The Rebelle Rally is the first women’s off-road navigation rally raid in the
United States ... covers more than 2,000 kilometers of stunning terrain
across the Nevada and California desert ...
Blending the love of driving with the ultimate challenge of precise
navigation, the Rebelle tests your skills over 8 days of competition. It is
not a race for speed, but a unique and demanding event based on the elements
of headings, hidden checkpoints, time, and distance using maps, compass, and
roadbook ...
https://www.rebellerally.com/faq/
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Re: [EVDL] wanted s10 ev
A non-functioning vehicle for $9000? Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 10:34 AM, Steve Clunn via EV wrote: We have one of the factory S10 EV with a dolphin controller up for sale on our website www.greenshedconversions.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/4a47a8a2/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/27e3ccf2/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] FrankenVolt photos posted
I finally took some photos (not best quality) of my FrankenVolt construction. It was really easy, three plywood panels, though painstakingly detailed to get the curves to fit. And then add solarpanels. http://aprs.org/FrankenVolt.html Bob -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20200822/e02f4770/attachment.html> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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