Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 30% Range Boost from EV-specific FPCU Controller chip
Simple, pure physics. If you can improve 30% (ie, give 30% more range) then there needs to be at least 30% waste in the first place. Waste always shows up as heat, as Lee likes to point out: Heat is the indicator of the (lack of) efficiency. So, if you have an EV that needs roughly 25kW to drive freeway speeds, Then you expect in the order of at least 10kW of heat to be produced *if* there is so much loss. This would mean that you need a significant amount of cooling, since this volume of heat is about the heat of 7 plug-in space heaters combined (each drawing about 12A at 110V) Now remember the installation practice of the Zilla controller, where you are guided to use something equivalent to a tiny aquarium pump and a bottle with water, not even a radiator needed as there is so little heat to get rid of anyway. I have driven several EV trucks for many years as daily driver. The first thing I usually do is to disable the radiator fan, if it is running constantly, since there is simply so little heat that there is no need for a big fan blowing through a big radiator - which was a left-over from the ICE factory conversion where you need to get rid of about 100kW of waste heat. The only exception is if the controller is used for charging, because then even a couple hundreds of Watts dissipated over many hours can warm up the controller to a point that it may be useful to cool it. The other example is the Prius's inverter water pump which has a tendency to fail silently. The only indication that you actually have no cooling for the inverter is not that the car is not driving, but that on a hot day with a longer drive, it may start limiting power or the 12V battery conks out, because the DC/DC (which shares the cold plate with the inverter) overheats and disables itself. The fact that you can keep driving the vehicle without water cooling, tells you that the inverter actually produces very little heat or else it would fail soon. My (cynical) view on the claim of 30% is that they are probably not claiming to increase range by 30% but that they reduce the waste by 30% by paying more attention to the power needed by the controller's own operation. This means that if you have a 90% efficient vehicle they reduce the 10% waste by up to 3% so the vehicle may now be up to 93% efficient. For a car with 80 mile range, this means that they add "up to" 2.4 miles of range. Not insignificant, but not as spectacular as their claim-disguised-as-question "Can this controller add 30% range?" because the simple answer to that is "No." You can also derive it from the bogus argument in their article that they improved the efficiency by using a faster controller, because (as they claim) the industry was using microcontrollers designed for ICE and they use a specific automotive design. Eh, not only does that claim make no sense whatever, but making a controller faster usually means that it consumes *more* power, not less. But hey, who am I to judge? Let them show some independent test results and we will know. For now, it is just investment-baiting fodder for all I can determine. Cor. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 10:46 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: EVDL Administrator Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 30% Range Boost from EV-specific FPCU Controller chip Maybe this design could improve range (efficiency) that much if you substituted it for a creaky old SCR controller, or for a controller really badly matched to a sepex or induction motor. But I don't see that kind of waste in modern EV drives, thank goodness. Could be I'm missing something, but I'm skeptical and then some. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 30% Range Boost from EV-specific FPCU Controller chip
Exactly. A modern EV drive train could be 85-90% efficient from battery to the road. To improve range by 30% you'd have to get more than 100% efficiency. There just isn't room for that level of improvement in the electronics. Now, maybe you could add 30% by reworking the body to be more aerodynamic and removing weight. But, that's not what they're claiming. Always be suspicious of claims that defy logic. The best they could hope for is to reduce the inefficiency by 30%. I mean, I'd believe they could take a 90% efficient drive train and make it 93% efficient. That's 30% less inefficiency but you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference. On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:45 PM, EVDL Administrator via EVwrote: > Maybe this design could improve range (efficiency) that much if you > substituted it for a creaky old SCR controller, or for a controller really > badly matched to a sepex or induction motor. But I don't see that kind of > waste in modern EV drives, thank goodness. > > Could be I'm missing something, but I'm skeptical and then some. > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not > reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my > email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 30% Range Boost from EV-specific FPCU Controller chip
Maybe this design could improve range (efficiency) that much if you substituted it for a creaky old SCR controller, or for a controller really badly matched to a sepex or induction motor. But I don't see that kind of waste in modern EV drives, thank goodness. Could be I'm missing something, but I'm skeptical and then some. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: 30% Range Boost from EV-specific FPCU Controller chip
https://www.engineering.com/ElectronicsDesign/ElectronicsDesignArticles/ArticleID/16640/Can-This-Controller-Boost-EV-Range-by-30-Percent.aspx Can This Controller Boost EV Range by 30 Percent? March 14, 2018 Michael Alba [images https://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/w_640,h_640,c_limit,q_auto,f_auto/image001_jhwcdg.jpg Silicon Mobility’s Field Programmable Control Unit (FPCU), the OLEA T222. (Image courtesy of Silicon Mobility.) https://res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/w_640,h_640,c_limit,q_auto,f_auto/image002_yclwap.jpg Diagram of the OLEA T222 FPCU. (Image courtesy of Silicon Mobility.) ] Silicon Mobility, a provider of control solutions for the automotive industry, recently released a product that promises drastic performance improvements for electric vehicles (EV) and hybrid vehicles. The company developed a novel semiconductor architecture, a Field Programmable Control Unit (FPCU), which it claims can extend EV range by over 30 percent on the same battery. The FPCU integrates a standard ARM Cortex-R5F processor with Silicon Mobility’s AMEC subsystem. The latter consists of a key component, the flexible logic unit (FLU) that handles real-time actuator and sensor control. The FLU is what puts the field programmable in FPCU as its flash-based programming allows it to be fully or partially reprogrammed in the field. The FPCU also incorporates a SILant functional safety architecture, classified as Automotive Safety Integrity Level D(ASIL-D), which corresponds to the highest safety requirements in an automotive product. Silicon Mobility’s first FPCU is the OLEA T222, which is available for application development but has not yet been qualified for the automotive market. David Fresneau, Silicon Mobility vice president of marketing and business development, said the qualification will be finalized by the end of the month, with volume production of the OLEA T222 set for the beginning of next year. The OLEA T222 comes with a design framework and software library for original equipment manufacturers(OEMs) to implement inverter control, DC-DC control and more. The software and hardware code for the FPCU can be generated using MATLAB and Simulink. How will the FPCU help boost EV range so drastically? To put it simply, Silicon Mobility claims that OEMs have been using inadequate microcontrollers, originally developed for internal combustion engine control, in their hybrid and EV applications. By designing its FPCU specifically for automotive powertrain control, Silicon Mobility believes a software bottleneck has been removed. It claims a 40x acceleration on data processing as opposed to a reference automotive microcontroller, as well as a whopping 180x reduction in power consumption. Put together, they claim this can lead to a 32 percent increase in hybrid and EV range. “We are completely committed to electrification,” Fresneau said. If the FPCU lives up to its promise, it has the potential to help pull a big thorn from the EV industry’s side: battery range. This has become one of the key metrics by which any EV is judged, and its prominence in the eyes of potential EV consumers has even been given a name: range anxiety. The ability to boost range by 30 percent simply by swapping one controller for another would be a no-brainer for EV manufacturers and could do a lot to accelerate consumer EV adoption.Silicon Mobility’s commitment to electrification seems evident, although it remains to be seen if its FPCU can follow through on this commitment. To learn more about the OLEA T222, visit Silicon Mobility’s website [ https://www.silicon-mobility.com/products/olea-t222/ ] ... [© engineering.com] + http://www.thedrive.com/tech/19371/your-power-company-wants-congress-to-keep-the-ev-tax-credit Your Power Company Wants Congress to Keep the EV Tax Credit March 18, 2018 ... The program ... is set to expire once a manufacturer reaches 200,000 units ... 36 public utility companies reached out to express the need to not only keep, but extend the tax credit to all manufacturers building electric cars ... https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/20170421-ev_tax_credits.jpg For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)