Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Iceholes ticketed w/ $75-$100 fine from Gabel's ILlaw

2015-08-02 Thread Michael Willuweit via EV
Time for an IL voice to chime in. The law reads, any offstreet public or 
private parking facility.
Private parking facility means one of the hundreds of privately owned parking 
garages in the Chicagoland area, many of which offer free charging with the 
roughly $20 fee to park there. And the spirit of the law is to protect these 
spots from being Ice'd. 
Regarding private drives, I don't think the police would have any jurisdiction 
to write a ticket there. I mean, if I put up handicap signage and paint a 
handicap parking space in my driveway, could the police ticket me if I park 
there without a handicap placard? I think not.

Michael Willuweit

 On Aug 1, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org 
 wrote:
 
 Bruce provided a link to the proposed bill and it is only a few lines, so you 
 can check for yourself.
 What I read is exactly what the reporter wrote: any public or private 
 parking, so if you have a private
 reserved spot and you place an EV charging sign in it and then you park your 
 ICE in it, it is possible
 (not likely, but possible) that you get towed and ticketed.
 This is not so different from parking in front of your own driveway.
 A police officer has no way of knowing of an illegal parked car is blocking 
 your driveway
 or that it is your own vehicle, so he can write a ticket for your car parked 
 in the street in front of your own driveway.
 I don't see much problem with that.
 If you don't want to be ticketed for parking your ICE in your spot then don't 
 put up an EV charging sign.
 
 Cor van de Water
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 On 1 Aug 2015 at 9:36, tomw via EV wrote:
 
 Are you certain they are not talking about a privately owned parking garage? 
 Some of these have installed EVSEs.  That would make more sense.
 
 Maybe.  Yes, that would make more sense.  
 
 Hart to be sure from the story, though.  Today's journalists are notorious 
 for getting things like this wrong, or omitting essential details.  You'd 
 have to go right to the bill itself to see if it could affect home garages.  
 You'd sure hope not!
 
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Iceholes ticketed w/ $75-$100 fine from Gabel's ILlaw

2015-08-01 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Bruce provided a link to the proposed bill and it is only a few lines, so you 
can check for yourself.
What I read is exactly what the reporter wrote: any public or private parking, 
so if you have a private
reserved spot and you place an EV charging sign in it and then you park your 
ICE in it, it is possible
(not likely, but possible) that you get towed and ticketed.
This is not so different from parking in front of your own driveway.
A police officer has no way of knowing of an illegal parked car is blocking 
your driveway
or that it is your own vehicle, so he can write a ticket for your car parked in 
the street in front of your own driveway.
I don't see much problem with that.
If you don't want to be ticketed for parking your ICE in your spot then don't 
put up an EV charging sign.

Cor van de Water
Chief Scientist
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
Email: cwa...@proxim.comPrivate: http://www.cvandewater.info
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Iceholes ticketed w/ $75-$100 fine from Gabel's ILlaw
 
On 1 Aug 2015 at 9:36, tomw via EV wrote:

 Are you certain they are not talking about a privately owned parking garage? 
 Some of these have installed EVSEs.  That would make more sense.

Maybe.  Yes, that would make more sense.  

Hart to be sure from the story, though.  Today's journalists are notorious 
for getting things like this wrong, or omitting essential details.  You'd 
have to go right to the bill itself to see if it could affect home garages.  
You'd sure hope not!

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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