Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Nikola claims 4x-energy, 2k-cycle, 50% cheaper li-ion
Maybe more importantly, I seem to remember that cobalt use will be either significantly reduced or eliminated. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Nov 20, 2019, at 6:00 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > https://cleantechnica.com/2019/11/19/nikola-pushes-deeper-into-battery-electric-vehicles-with-next-generation-battery-tech/ > Nikola Pushes Deeper Into Battery Electric Vehicles With Next Generation > Battery Tech > November 19th, 2019 Kyle Field > > [images / Kyle Field > https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/04/nikola-motor-company-world-2019-two-red-3-trevor-milton.jpg > Nikola Motor Company CEO Trevor Milton unveiling the Nikola Two at Nikola > World 2019 > > https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/08/2018.09-spi-aneheim-KYLE-samsung-sdi-energy-storage-battery-pack-module-cells-batteries-lithium-ion-4-18650.jpg > Nikola’s new battery tech challenges lithium-ion’s supremacy in the battle > to power our vehicles, homes, and businesses > ] > > The Nikola Motor Company dropped a bomb on the electric vehicle industry > today with news of a pending acquisition of a team that has developed next > generation battery technology. The news comes with claims of a cathode with > 4 times the energy density of today’s lithium-ion cells, lasts for 2,000 > cycles, and at a cell cost of 50% less than today’s lithium-ion cells. > > If Nikola can bring a battery with these specs to market and produce them at > scale, the implications to not just the world of electric vehicles, but to > the entire automotive industry and to the world of stationary energy storage > would be profound. But that’s a big if. Thanks to unprecedented investment > in battery research and design, prototype batteries and breakthroughs in the > lab happen nearly every week, but they don’t always translate into real > world improvements. > > In this case, Nikola’s outspoken CEO Trevor Milton feels the company has > found the real deal with news that it has filed a letter of intent to > acquire the team that developed the new tech. The acquisition is not > finalized at this point, but Milton hopes to announce more details > surrounding the breakthrough at Nikola World next fall. > > For now, here’s what we know: > > Cathode with 4x the energy density of lithium-ion > > Prototype achieved 2,000 cycles in testing with “acceptable” end-of-life > performance > > Cost 50% less to produce next generation cells per kWh compared to > lithium-ion > > Weighs 40% less than same capacity of lithium-ion cells > > Prototype cell achieved 500 watt-hours capacity > > “This is the biggest advancement we have seen in the battery world,” said > Trevor Milton, CEO, Nikola Motor Company. “We are not talking about small > improvements; we are talking about doubling your cell phone battery > capacity. We are talking about doubling the range of BEVs and > hydrogen-electric vehicles around the world.” > > Batteries are the glue that holds the worlds of electric vehicles, > renewables, and distributed generation together. While lithium-ion batteries > have continued to improve in energy density and cost at a steady pace in > recent years, the broader industry has had its sights set on the next > generation battery cell technology. Nikola’s new team has developed a > prototype cell that delivers on the promises of future battery technologies, > with an energy density of 1,100 watt-hours per kilogram for the material and > 500 watt-hours per kilogram when rolled into a cell. > > Bringing 500 watt-hour cells to market would be a nice bump in energy > density and at a lower cost than batteries going into production electric > vehicles today. The path to market for the new battery tech is not going to > be an easy one as Nikola will need to build or license manufacturing > capacity for the new cells. It is exactly this bump in the road that > mainstream automakers are wrestling with now as the Chinese battery > manufacturing engine continues to spool up to fill the need. Indeed, to meet > its needs at its Shanghai Gigafactory, even Tesla contracted out the supply > of battery cells. > > Nikola plans to share the intellectual property (IP) for the new batteries > with OEMs that contribute to a new battery consortium. The move has the > potential to catapult not only Nikola, but the world of automobiles into > electric vehicles at a rapid clip. It shows that Nikola sees the need for > battery cell standards that stretch beyond its walls and into the broader > industry to achieve the manufacturing scale required to bring the cost down > for everyone. > > [image] Nikola has big plans for 2020 as it continues to add scope to its > already complex launch / Nikola Motor Company > > Not that Nikola is planning to just give the tech out for free. It has big > aspirations for itself, with customer discussions about orders that would > propel it into the upper echelon of truck manufacturers. “Nikola is in > discussions with customers for truck orders
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Nikola claims 4x-energy, 2k-cycle, 50% cheaper li-ion
Apparently they are located in Phoenix. I presume they will do hot weather testing :) If this isn't vaporware, that will be a great improvement, e.g. a 100kWh battery at 200kg. No mention of size density but I would assume it's also reduced by about the same proportion. The weak spot will by the number of cycles. No mention on depth of discharge or charge, but 2000 doesn't sound so great (6 years for heavy usage), especially compared to Tesla who appears to be much higher than that. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "brucedp5 via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "brucedp5" Sent: 20-Nov-19 6:00:10 AM Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Nikola claims 4x-energy, 2k-cycle, 50% cheaper li-ion https://cleantechnica.com/2019/11/19/nikola-pushes-deeper-into-battery-electric-vehicles-with-next-generation-battery-tech/ Nikola Pushes Deeper Into Battery Electric Vehicles With Next Generation Battery Tech November 19th, 2019 Kyle Field [images / Kyle Field https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/04/nikola-motor-company-world-2019-two-red-3-trevor-milton.jpg Nikola Motor Company CEO Trevor Milton unveiling the Nikola Two at Nikola World 2019 https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/08/2018.09-spi-aneheim-KYLE-samsung-sdi-energy-storage-battery-pack-module-cells-batteries-lithium-ion-4-18650.jpg Nikola’s new battery tech challenges lithium-ion’s supremacy in the battle to power our vehicles, homes, and businesses ] The Nikola Motor Company dropped a bomb on the electric vehicle industry today with news of a pending acquisition of a team that has developed next generation battery technology. The news comes with claims of a cathode with 4 times the energy density of today’s lithium-ion cells, lasts for 2,000 cycles, and at a cell cost of 50% less than today’s lithium-ion cells. If Nikola can bring a battery with these specs to market and produce them at scale, the implications to not just the world of electric vehicles, but to the entire automotive industry and to the world of stationary energy storage would be profound. But that’s a big if. Thanks to unprecedented investment in battery research and design, prototype batteries and breakthroughs in the lab happen nearly every week, but they don’t always translate into real world improvements. In this case, Nikola’s outspoken CEO Trevor Milton feels the company has found the real deal with news that it has filed a letter of intent to acquire the team that developed the new tech. The acquisition is not finalized at this point, but Milton hopes to announce more details surrounding the breakthrough at Nikola World next fall. For now, here’s what we know: Cathode with 4x the energy density of lithium-ion Prototype achieved 2,000 cycles in testing with “acceptable” end-of-life performance Cost 50% less to produce next generation cells per kWh compared to lithium-ion Weighs 40% less than same capacity of lithium-ion cells Prototype cell achieved 500 watt-hours capacity “This is the biggest advancement we have seen in the battery world,” said Trevor Milton, CEO, Nikola Motor Company. “We are not talking about small improvements; we are talking about doubling your cell phone battery capacity. We are talking about doubling the range of BEVs and hydrogen-electric vehicles around the world.” Batteries are the glue that holds the worlds of electric vehicles, renewables, and distributed generation together. While lithium-ion batteries have continued to improve in energy density and cost at a steady pace in recent years, the broader industry has had its sights set on the next generation battery cell technology. Nikola’s new team has developed a prototype cell that delivers on the promises of future battery technologies, with an energy density of 1,100 watt-hours per kilogram for the material and 500 watt-hours per kilogram when rolled into a cell. Bringing 500 watt-hour cells to market would be a nice bump in energy density and at a lower cost than batteries going into production electric vehicles today. The path to market for the new battery tech is not going to be an easy one as Nikola will need to build or license manufacturing capacity for the new cells. It is exactly this bump in the road that mainstream automakers are wrestling with now as the Chinese battery manufacturing engine continues to spool up to fill the need. Indeed, to meet its needs at its Shanghai Gigafactory, even Tesla contracted out the supply of battery cells. Nikola plans to share the intellectual property (IP) for the new batteries with OEMs that contribute to a new battery consortium. The move has the potential to catapult not only Nikola, but the world of automobiles into electric vehicles at a rapid clip. It shows that Nikola sees the need for battery cell standards that stretch beyond its walls and into the broader industry to achieve the manufacturing scale required to bring the cost down for everyone. [image] Nikola has big plans for 2020 as it continues to add
[EVDL] EVLN: Nikola claims 4x-energy, 2k-cycle, 50% cheaper li-ion
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/11/19/nikola-pushes-deeper-into-battery-electric-vehicles-with-next-generation-battery-tech/ Nikola Pushes Deeper Into Battery Electric Vehicles With Next Generation Battery Tech November 19th, 2019 Kyle Field [images / Kyle Field https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/04/nikola-motor-company-world-2019-two-red-3-trevor-milton.jpg Nikola Motor Company CEO Trevor Milton unveiling the Nikola Two at Nikola World 2019 https://cleantechnica.com/files/2019/08/2018.09-spi-aneheim-KYLE-samsung-sdi-energy-storage-battery-pack-module-cells-batteries-lithium-ion-4-18650.jpg Nikola’s new battery tech challenges lithium-ion’s supremacy in the battle to power our vehicles, homes, and businesses ] The Nikola Motor Company dropped a bomb on the electric vehicle industry today with news of a pending acquisition of a team that has developed next generation battery technology. The news comes with claims of a cathode with 4 times the energy density of today’s lithium-ion cells, lasts for 2,000 cycles, and at a cell cost of 50% less than today’s lithium-ion cells. If Nikola can bring a battery with these specs to market and produce them at scale, the implications to not just the world of electric vehicles, but to the entire automotive industry and to the world of stationary energy storage would be profound. But that’s a big if. Thanks to unprecedented investment in battery research and design, prototype batteries and breakthroughs in the lab happen nearly every week, but they don’t always translate into real world improvements. In this case, Nikola’s outspoken CEO Trevor Milton feels the company has found the real deal with news that it has filed a letter of intent to acquire the team that developed the new tech. The acquisition is not finalized at this point, but Milton hopes to announce more details surrounding the breakthrough at Nikola World next fall. For now, here’s what we know: Cathode with 4x the energy density of lithium-ion Prototype achieved 2,000 cycles in testing with “acceptable” end-of-life performance Cost 50% less to produce next generation cells per kWh compared to lithium-ion Weighs 40% less than same capacity of lithium-ion cells Prototype cell achieved 500 watt-hours capacity “This is the biggest advancement we have seen in the battery world,” said Trevor Milton, CEO, Nikola Motor Company. “We are not talking about small improvements; we are talking about doubling your cell phone battery capacity. We are talking about doubling the range of BEVs and hydrogen-electric vehicles around the world.” Batteries are the glue that holds the worlds of electric vehicles, renewables, and distributed generation together. While lithium-ion batteries have continued to improve in energy density and cost at a steady pace in recent years, the broader industry has had its sights set on the next generation battery cell technology. Nikola’s new team has developed a prototype cell that delivers on the promises of future battery technologies, with an energy density of 1,100 watt-hours per kilogram for the material and 500 watt-hours per kilogram when rolled into a cell. Bringing 500 watt-hour cells to market would be a nice bump in energy density and at a lower cost than batteries going into production electric vehicles today. The path to market for the new battery tech is not going to be an easy one as Nikola will need to build or license manufacturing capacity for the new cells. It is exactly this bump in the road that mainstream automakers are wrestling with now as the Chinese battery manufacturing engine continues to spool up to fill the need. Indeed, to meet its needs at its Shanghai Gigafactory, even Tesla contracted out the supply of battery cells. Nikola plans to share the intellectual property (IP) for the new batteries with OEMs that contribute to a new battery consortium. The move has the potential to catapult not only Nikola, but the world of automobiles into electric vehicles at a rapid clip. It shows that Nikola sees the need for battery cell standards that stretch beyond its walls and into the broader industry to achieve the manufacturing scale required to bring the cost down for everyone. [image] Nikola has big plans for 2020 as it continues to add scope to its already complex launch / Nikola Motor Company Not that Nikola is planning to just give the tech out for free. It has big aspirations for itself, with customer discussions about orders that would propel it into the upper echelon of truck manufacturers. “Nikola is in discussions with customers for truck orders that could fill production slots for more than ten years and propel Nikola to become the top truck manufacturer in the world in terms of revenue,” Milton said. “Now the question is why not share it with the world?” Of course, Nikola must first establish its own manufacturing presence that can keep pace with the lengthy list of heavy truck manufacturers aggressively moving into zero emission