Re: [EVDL] Efficiency Compared: Battery-Electric 73%, Hydrogen 22%, ICE 13%

2018-12-23 Thread Lee Hart via EV
From: Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
>Subject: [EVDL] Efficiency Compared: Battery-Electric 73%, Hydrogen 22%, ICE 
>13%
> With the numbers in the subject line. Why would anyone pick fool cells. 

Readers on this list are part of a very small minority that actually think 
about efficiency. The sad fact is that most people couldn't care less about 
efficiency. They only care about cost.

Even if they do care (a little) about efficiency, because they think it it will 
improve their fuel efficiency (by reducing cost), they will say "See? H2 is 
almost TWICE the efficiency of ICEs."


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Re: [EVDL] Efficiency Compared: Battery-Electric 73%, Hydrogen 22%, ICE 13%

2018-12-22 Thread Michael Ross via EV
On the grid for saving renewable sourced energy, hydrogen might make sense
even with the low efficiency. Because there is a real potential for cheap
large scale storage. But to release the energy in a mobile application with
by combustion or by fuel cell is probably not a great idea.  On a utility
scale, after pump storage and other methods are overtaxed, it might be very
useful. I am assuming some very environmentally benign battery methods
don't arise.  You can make a great large tank and fill it, or you can make
gabillions of battery cells to store wind, geo, solar excesses, until peak
times. I don't think it makes sense for personal, mobile use.


On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 5:27 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
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> https://insideevs.com/efficiency-compared-battery-electric-73-hydrogen-22-ice-13/
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>  With the numbers in the subject line. Why would anyone pick fool cells.
> With less MSRP you can get a long range Tesla III vs. the fool cell
> alternative.  You have few fuel stations compared to the world wide Tesla
> Supercharger system.  WHY? Is range anxiety that much of an issue?  Fool
> cells are a distraction from the prize.  Lawrence Rhodes
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[EVDL] Efficiency Compared: Battery-Electric 73%, Hydrogen 22%, ICE 13%

2018-12-22 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
https://insideevs.com/efficiency-compared-battery-electric-73-hydrogen-22-ice-13/
 
 With the numbers in the subject line. Why would anyone pick fool cells. With 
less MSRP you can get a long range Tesla III vs. the fool cell alternative.  
You have few fuel stations compared to the world wide Tesla Supercharger 
system.  WHY? Is range anxiety that much of an issue?  Fool cells are a 
distraction from the prize.  Lawrence Rhodes
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