Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[ROBERT via EV]

Looks like the military uses a good grade of paint and good painting technique. 
 I disassembled 67 boxes of batteries and not one box had corrosive damage.  
However, all the paint was intake.  Thanks, for the info on aluminum.  I was 
planning on using some larger NiCad with a solar system.  I will use steel for 
the frames.



From: EV  on behalf of Lee Hart via EV 

Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 2:27 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

ROBERT via EV wrote:
> I do not understand your statement "Also, I learned not to put them
> in an aluminum box " The original boxes were made of aluminum.  In
> addition, I think all aircraft NiCad use aluminum boxes.

My experience is that the potassium hydroxide electolyte is highly
corrosive to aluminum. If it gets on the aluminum, it corrodes it.

Potassium hydroxide doesn't seem to bother steel, however. That is the
reverse of the effect of the sulfuric acid electrolyte in lead-acid
batteries.

> I am sending the batteries to Recyclers of America.  They pay for
> shipping. I am paying a $0.75 per pound recycling fee.  Not low cost
> for 1500 Lb of batteries.

It's too bad you couldn't find a good home that could put these
batteries back to work. But congratulations for doing the right thing on
recycling them!

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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Lee Hart via EV]

ROBERT via EV wrote:

I do not understand your statement "Also, I learned not to put them
in an aluminum box " The original boxes were made of aluminum.  In
addition, I think all aircraft NiCad use aluminum boxes.


My experience is that the potassium hydroxide electolyte is highly 
corrosive to aluminum. If it gets on the aluminum, it corrodes it.


Potassium hydroxide doesn't seem to bother steel, however. That is the 
reverse of the effect of the sulfuric acid electrolyte in lead-acid 
batteries.



I am sending the batteries to Recyclers of America.  They pay for
shipping. I am paying a $0.75 per pound recycling fee.  Not low cost
for 1500 Lb of batteries.


It's too bad you couldn't find a good home that could put these 
batteries back to work. But congratulations for doing the right thing on 
recycling them!


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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Damon Henry via EV]

The electrolyte is a base which eats through aluminum.  I originally put mine 
in a nice diamond plate aluminum box in the back of my truck, and it did not 
take long before the box was full of holes.  Now that I am using lithium I am 
back to using aluminum boxes.

Damon

From: EV  on behalf of ROBERT via EV 

Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 8:20 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: ROBERT
Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

I do not understand your statement "Also, I learned not to put them in an 
aluminum box " The original boxes were made of aluminum.  In addition, I think 
all aircraft NiCad use aluminum boxes.  I am sending the batteries to Recyclers 
of America.  They pay for shipping.  I am paying a $0.75 per pound recycling 
fee.  Not low cost for 1500 Lb of batteries.



From: EV  on behalf of Damon Henry via EV 

Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 11:41 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: Damon Henry
Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

Wow, at one time I would have drooled all over these.  In fact I bought a 
couple hundred surpluss BB600 myself and used them in both my EVs. I'm afraid I 
am lithium spoiled now.  The flooded NiCads took too much maintenance and were 
quite messy.  Also, I learned not to put them in an aluminum box :)

Can you share details on the logistics of sending them to the recyclers?  I 
still have some dead ones laying around I need to properly dispose of some day.

thanks
Damon

From: EV  on behalf of ROBERT via EV 

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:14 PM
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: ROBERT
Subject: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years ago as 
military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The specifications are: Saft 
Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If 
anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay shipping, you can have 
them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers next week.  In addition, I 
have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole 
spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni plate Cu.  If anyone needs 
these links, I will sell them for the price of cooper.


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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[ROBERT via EV]

I do not understand your statement "Also, I learned not to put them in an 
aluminum box " The original boxes were made of aluminum.  In addition, I think 
all aircraft NiCad use aluminum boxes.  I am sending the batteries to Recyclers 
of America.  They pay for shipping.  I am paying a $0.75 per pound recycling 
fee.  Not low cost for 1500 Lb of batteries.



From: EV  on behalf of Damon Henry via EV 

Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 11:41 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: Damon Henry
Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

Wow, at one time I would have drooled all over these.  In fact I bought a 
couple hundred surpluss BB600 myself and used them in both my EVs. I'm afraid I 
am lithium spoiled now.  The flooded NiCads took too much maintenance and were 
quite messy.  Also, I learned not to put them in an aluminum box :)

Can you share details on the logistics of sending them to the recyclers?  I 
still have some dead ones laying around I need to properly dispose of some day.

thanks
Damon

From: EV  on behalf of ROBERT via EV 

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:14 PM
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: ROBERT
Subject: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years ago as 
military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The specifications are: Saft 
Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If 
anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay shipping, you can have 
them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers next week.  In addition, I 
have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole 
spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni plate Cu.  If anyone needs 
these links, I will sell them for the price of cooper.


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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[ROBERT via EV]

They discontinued this service.

From: EV  on behalf of EVDL Administrator via EV 

Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 2:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

I don't know whether they still do, you'd have to check -- but Saft used to
rebuild their cells and batteries (for a fee of course).  Instead of
recycling your NiCd cells, maybe you could have Saft rebuild them, and then
sell them as essentially new ones.

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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[ROBERT via EV]

There are only a few recyclers that take flooded NICad batteries.  The biggest 
is Battery Recyclers of America.  This company operates the recycle bins at 
Lowes and Home Depot.  They do not take flooded Nicad batteries or large format 
battery assemblies at Lowes.  In order to get Battery Recyclers of America or 
any recycler to take flooded Nicad you must have at least 1000 lb.  They will 
pickup the batteries for free; however, they charge $0.75 per pound for 
recycling.  They will issues a recycle certificate.  This recycle certificate 
is a requirement when buying military surplus aircraft flooded Nicad batteries 
from the government.  When you buy the batteries the government sends an 
inspector to see what you are going to do with the batteries.  You must sign a 
statement saying that when you are finished with the batteries you will recycle 
the batteries via an approved recycle facility.  Whoever first purchased the 
batteries from the government must pass on this requirement to the next 
purchaser. I think, you are going to have a similar requirement for large 
battery assemblies.  There will be a recycling fee and it will not be low cost.



From: EV  on behalf of Mark Abramowitz via EV 

Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:24 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

Let me edit correct that - that is, unless they say that they do.

- Mark

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> On Nov 4, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Mark Abramowitz  wrote:
>
> I’m pretty sure that hazardous waste drop-offs do not recycle the batteries.
>
> - Mark
>
> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>
>> On Nov 4, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Damon Henry via EV  wrote:
>>
>> I dropped a couple dead SAFT STM5 100s off at our hazardous waste drop  in 
>> the NiCad section several years ago.  I came back a second time with more 
>> and they stopped me and said they could not take that format...  It's been 
>> quite a while, so I guess I could give it a go with a few BB600s and see 
>> what they say.  I could also talk to them about large format lithiums.  I'm 
>> going to eventually need a plan for those as well.
>>
>> Damon
>> 
>> From: EV  on behalf of Bill Collins via EV 
>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 4:27 AM
>> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
>> Cc: Bill Collins
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries
>>
>> I took a quick look at that before buying a few BB660 cells to experiment 
>> with as a starting battery for an ice. They seem to meet all the 
>> requirements for dropping off in the battery recycle bin at Lowes home 
>> centers. It's not a practical way to dispose of a large number, but for a 
>> few dead cells, I would just drop one off from time to time.
>>
>> I'm interested in hearing the details on larger scale recycling too.
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

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I don't know whether they still do, you'd have to check -- but Saft used to 
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Lee Hart via EV]

Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:

I’m pretty sure that hazardous waste drop-offs do not recycle the batteries.

Let me edit correct that - that is, unless they say that they do.


Even then, I'm not even sure they do.

The guy at the counter might not know. You'd have to explicitly say they 
were nicads; then (maybe) he'd check.


Or, some of these drop-off have been accustomed to just sending 
everything to China or somewhere, and letting them sort it out. That 
doesn't work any more.


My worry is that they get so few nicads nowdays that they wouldn't know 
what they are, or what to do with them. They could wind up just being 
thrown into the bin with lead-acids or something else.


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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

I’m pretty sure that hazardous waste drop-offs do not recycle the batteries.

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Damon Henry via EV  wrote:
> 
> I dropped a couple dead SAFT STM5 100s off at our hazardous waste drop  in 
> the NiCad section several years ago.  I came back a second time with more and 
> they stopped me and said they could not take that format...  It's been quite 
> a while, so I guess I could give it a go with a few BB600s and see what they 
> say.  I could also talk to them about large format lithiums.  I'm going to 
> eventually need a plan for those as well.
> 
> Damon
> 
> From: EV  on behalf of Bill Collins via EV 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 4:27 AM
> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> Cc: Bill Collins
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries
> 
> I took a quick look at that before buying a few BB660 cells to experiment 
> with as a starting battery for an ice. They seem to meet all the requirements 
> for dropping off in the battery recycle bin at Lowes home centers. It's not a 
> practical way to dispose of a large number, but for a few dead cells, I would 
> just drop one off from time to time.
> 
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

Let me edit correct that - that is, unless they say that they do.

- Mark

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> On Nov 4, 2018, at 7:18 AM, Mark Abramowitz  wrote:
> 
> I’m pretty sure that hazardous waste drop-offs do not recycle the batteries.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
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>> On Nov 4, 2018, at 6:33 AM, Damon Henry via EV  wrote:
>> 
>> I dropped a couple dead SAFT STM5 100s off at our hazardous waste drop  in 
>> the NiCad section several years ago.  I came back a second time with more 
>> and they stopped me and said they could not take that format...  It's been 
>> quite a while, so I guess I could give it a go with a few BB600s and see 
>> what they say.  I could also talk to them about large format lithiums.  I'm 
>> going to eventually need a plan for those as well.
>> 
>> Damon
>> 
>> From: EV  on behalf of Bill Collins via EV 
>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 4:27 AM
>> To: ev@lists.evdl.org
>> Cc: Bill Collins
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries
>> 
>> I took a quick look at that before buying a few BB660 cells to experiment 
>> with as a starting battery for an ice. They seem to meet all the 
>> requirements for dropping off in the battery recycle bin at Lowes home 
>> centers. It's not a practical way to dispose of a large number, but for a 
>> few dead cells, I would just drop one off from time to time.
>> 
>> I'm interested in hearing the details on larger scale recycling too.
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Damon Henry via EV]

I dropped a couple dead SAFT STM5 100s off at our hazardous waste drop  in the 
NiCad section several years ago.  I came back a second time with more and they 
stopped me and said they could not take that format...  It's been quite a 
while, so I guess I could give it a go with a few BB600s and see what they say. 
 I could also talk to them about large format lithiums.  I'm going to 
eventually need a plan for those as well.

Damon

From: EV  on behalf of Bill Collins via EV 

Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 4:27 AM
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

I took a quick look at that before buying a few BB660 cells to experiment with 
as a starting battery for an ice. They seem to meet all the requirements for 
dropping off in the battery recycle bin at Lowes home centers. It's not a 
practical way to dispose of a large number, but for a few dead cells, I would 
just drop one off from time to time.

I'm interested in hearing the details on larger scale recycling too.
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[EVDL Administrator via EV]

Here in scenic Summit County, Ohio, the county household hazardous waste 
dispoal site accepts NiCd cells of any size.  

You have to be a county resident to use the site, though.  Also, they're 
only open one day a week, and only in the summer months.  (!)

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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Bill Collins via EV]

I took a quick look at that before buying a few BB660 cells to experiment with 
as a starting battery for an ice. They seem to meet all the requirements for 
dropping off in the battery recycle bin at Lowes home centers. It's not a 
practical way to dispose of a large number, but for a few dead cells, I would 
just drop one off from time to time.

I'm interested in hearing the details on larger scale recycling too.
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[jerry freedomev via EV]

         Hi Damon, Robert and All,                 Assuming they are high 
output ones  I found these are very good as E bike/trike batteries as very 
rugged.    I got several 25vdc 12-14amphr batteries of them from some 
heart/lung machines and was very happy.    Keep them out of sunlight as hurts 
the case.             The secret is only charging to 95% drastically cuts water 
use, maintaining them to 1/month with an equalize charge of 110% every week or 
2.   They charge fast  to 90%.              Make sure they are under 
compression or they swell.  They many times come in metal cases for that.       
        On SAFTs they did  take them at their Atlanta warehouse for recycling  
if you ship to them. Google for details.                        Jerry
On ‎Friday‎, ‎November‎ ‎2‎, ‎2018‎ ‎02‎:‎41‎:‎34‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, Damon Henry 
via EV  wrote:  
 
 Wow, at one time I would have drooled all over these.  In fact I bought a 
couple hundred surpluss BB600 myself and used them in both my EVs. I'm afraid I 
am lithium spoiled now.  The flooded NiCads took too much maintenance and were 
quite messy.  Also, I learned not to put them in an aluminum box :)

Can you share details on the logistics of sending them to the recyclers?  I 
still have some dead ones laying around I need to properly dispose of some day.

thanks
Damon

From: EV  on behalf of ROBERT via EV 

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:14 PM
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: ROBERT
Subject: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years ago as 
military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The specifications are: Saft 
Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If 
anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay shipping, you can have 
them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers next week.  In addition, I 
have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole 
spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni plate Cu.  If anyone needs 
these links, I will sell them for the price of cooper.


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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Damon Henry via EV]

Wow, at one time I would have drooled all over these.  In fact I bought a 
couple hundred surpluss BB600 myself and used them in both my EVs. I'm afraid I 
am lithium spoiled now.  The flooded NiCads took too much maintenance and were 
quite messy.  Also, I learned not to put them in an aluminum box :)

Can you share details on the logistics of sending them to the recyclers?  I 
still have some dead ones laying around I need to properly dispose of some day.

thanks
Damon

From: EV  on behalf of ROBERT via EV 

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:14 PM
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Cc: ROBERT
Subject: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years ago as 
military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The specifications are: Saft 
Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If 
anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay shipping, you can have 
them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers next week.  In addition, I 
have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole 
spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni plate Cu.  If anyone needs 
these links, I will sell them for the price of cooper.


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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[ROBERT via EV]

My mistake.  You only fill a flooded NICAD after charging.


From: EV  on behalf of Cor van de Water via EV 

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

Yup, *very* messy if you fill a battery first and then charge, unless you
enjoy dealing with overflowing electrolyte.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 8:58 PM John Lussmyer via EV  On Thu Nov 01 20:26:52 PDT 2018 bhensle...@msn.com said:
> >They were military surplus.  I have not tested the cells/batteries
> batteries.  The electrolyte has evaporated.  You would need to clean the
> terminals on each battery with a brush, fill the battery with a solution of
> distilled water and 30% potassium hydroxide (KOH), charge the battery, and
> check the discharge rate.
>
> No, do NOT fill them first.  As those of us who have a bunch of BB600
> military NiCd's found, just charge them first.
> Then, if they are still low after being fully charged, you can add water.
> They can look dry - still charge them first!
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Cor van de Water via EV]

Yup, *very* messy if you fill a battery first and then charge, unless you
enjoy dealing with overflowing electrolyte.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 8:58 PM John Lussmyer via EV  On Thu Nov 01 20:26:52 PDT 2018 bhensle...@msn.com said:
> >They were military surplus.  I have not tested the cells/batteries
> batteries.  The electrolyte has evaporated.  You would need to clean the
> terminals on each battery with a brush, fill the battery with a solution of
> distilled water and 30% potassium hydroxide (KOH), charge the battery, and
> check the discharge rate.
>
> No, do NOT fill them first.  As those of us who have a bunch of BB600
> military NiCd's found, just charge them first.
> Then, if they are still low after being fully charged, you can add water.
> They can look dry - still charge them first!
>
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[ROBERT via EV]

They were military surplus.  I have not tested the cells/batteries batteries.  
The electrolyte has evaporated.  You would need to clean the terminals on each 
battery with a brush, fill the battery with a solution of distilled water and 
30% potassium hydroxide (KOH), charge the battery, and check the discharge rate.




From: EV  on behalf of John Lussmyer via EV 

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 6:01 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: John Lussmyer
Subject: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

On Thu Nov 01 14:14:48 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years ago as 
>military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The specifications are: 
>Saft Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If 
>anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay shipping, you can have 
>them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers next week.  In addition, I 
>have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole 
>spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni plate Cu.  If anyone needs 
>these links, I will sell them for the price of cooper.

What state are you in?


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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Robert Bruninga via EV]

And where on this earth might they be located?

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:14 PM, ROBERT via EV  wrote:

> I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years
> ago as military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The
> specifications are: Saft Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X
> 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay
> shipping, you can have them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers
> next week.  In addition, I have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L
> X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni
> plate Cu.  If anyone needs these links, I will sell them for the price of
> cooper.
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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[John Lussmyer via EV]

On Thu Nov 01 20:26:52 PDT 2018 bhensle...@msn.com said:
>They were military surplus.  I have not tested the cells/batteries batteries.  
>The electrolyte has evaporated.  You would need to clean the terminals on each 
>battery with a brush, fill the battery with a solution of distilled water and 
>30% potassium hydroxide (KOH), charge the battery, and check the discharge 
>rate.

No, do NOT fill them first.  As those of us who have a bunch of BB600 military 
NiCd's found, just charge them first.
Then, if they are still low after being fully charged, you can add water.
They can look dry - still charge them first!


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Re: [EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[Rod Hower via EV]

I might be interested in playing with some, I have a few projects in mind.  Can 
you send a picture to rodhower at ameritech dot net Thanks,RodW8RNH 

On Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:01 PM, John Lussmyer via EV 
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 On Thu Nov 01 14:14:48 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years ago as 
>military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The specifications are: 
>Saft Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If 
>anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay shipping, you can have 
>them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers next week.  In addition, I 
>have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole 
>spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni plate Cu.  If anyone needs 
>these links, I will sell them for the price of cooper.

What state are you in?


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[EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[John Lussmyer via EV]

On Thu Nov 01 14:14:48 PDT 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said:
>I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years ago as 
>military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The specifications are: 
>Saft Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If 
>anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay shipping, you can have 
>them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers next week.  In addition, I 
>have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole 
>spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni plate Cu.  If anyone needs 
>these links, I will sell them for the price of cooper.

What state are you in?


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[EVDL] NICAD Batteries

[ROBERT via EV]

I have approximately 1100 NiCad cells.  I purchased them about 10 years ago as 
military surplus.  They were used in helicopters.  The specifications are: Saft 
Model No. KO 14KH-B-1. 11 Amp-Hrs. Size: 2.25" W X 5.25" H, and 1" D.  If 
anyone needs these batteries and are willing to pay shipping, you can have 
them.  If not, I am shipping them to the recyclers next week.  In addition, I 
have the battery links.  Specifications: 1.5" L X 0.5 " W.  Ctr - Ctr hole 
spacing: 1" Holes dia: 3/16".  The links are Ni plate Cu.  If anyone needs 
these links, I will sell them for the price of cooper.


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