Re: [EVDL] New Electric in the family (PIH)

2017-10-03 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
I don't concern myself with looks.  All modern bubble cars are ugly.  I just 
base everything on cost.  My EV is cheaper.  It's cheaper to rent a car for a 
long trip.    I'll spend less money on Smog tests, tuneups, oil changes...etc. 
That is it. That said I have traveled between San Diego and San Francisco about 
10 times now and it's not too bad.  It basically doubles the travel time. 
However the 30kw car does the trip faster. Last time I drove to and from San 
Diego it cost me 5 dollars for one charge I paid for.  Doesn't hurt to work for 
a fast charge company and have a no charge to charge card.  I will be driving 
from San Francisco to Santa Cruz today.  I can make it in both directions using 
my 24kw Leaf. Lawrence Rhodes

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Problem is, I think your Leaf is ugly :)  Of course, I feel the same way about 
the new Prius models,  although the Prius Prime has enough tweaks to the 
styling to be ok with me.  Then again, who am I to judge.  I fell in love with 
the looks of my little red Honda Insight back in 2001 and many people think of 
it as ugly...  I seriously have never considered a Leaf though because I don't 
like the looks.  Now the 2018 model is a whole different story.  I think it is 
a much nicer looking car.
BTW - I snapped a photo of my 1970 Datsun Truck EV next to a Leaf the other 
day.  I think of the Leaf as a small car, yet it looks larger in the picture 
than my truck.  How times have changed.
As far as charging stations, there is only one that we are concerned with, and 
that is at home.  She is the typical use case that has been discussed on this 
list many times where 90% of her driving is covered with the electric range she 
has available, and since it is a plug-in hybrid with a full tank of gas 
available, there is never any range anxiety.
DamonFrom: EV  on behalf of Lawrence Rhodes via EV 

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] New Electric in the family (PIH) Well lets hope she can 
find charging stations close enough.  However after doing the math your Prius 
Prime only gets 56.6 mpg in the real world driving the full range.  My 30 kw 
Leaf cost $13,550 new and gets close to 120mpgE for real.  I suspect the higher 
figure is on electric only.  Which is impressive.    Lawrence 
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Re: [EVDL] New Electric in the family (PIH)

2017-10-03 Thread damon henry via EV 
Problem is, I think your Leaf is ugly :)  Of course, I feel the same way about 
the new Prius models,  although the Prius Prime has enough tweaks to the 
styling to be ok with me.  Then again, who am I to judge.  I fell in love with 
the looks of my little red Honda Insight back in 2001 and many people think of 
it as ugly...  I seriously have never considered a Leaf though because I don't 
like the looks.  Now the 2018 model is a whole different story.  I think it is 
a much nicer looking car.


BTW - I snapped a photo of my 1970 Datsun Truck EV next to a Leaf the other 
day.  I think of the Leaf as a small car, yet it looks larger in the picture 
than my truck.  How times have changed.


As far as charging stations, there is only one that we are concerned with, and 
that is at home.  She is the typical use case that has been discussed on this 
list many times where 90% of her driving is covered with the electric range she 
has available, and since it is a plug-in hybrid with a full tank of gas 
available, there is never any range anxiety.


Damon


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Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 9:51:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] New Electric in the family (PIH)

Well lets hope she can find charging stations close enough.  However after 
doing the math your Prius Prime only gets 56.6 mpg in the real world driving 
the full range.  My 30 kw Leaf cost $13,550 new and gets close to 120mpgE for 
real.  I suspect the higher figure is on electric only.  Which is impressive.   
 Lawrence 
Rhodeshttp://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/60/6004/ITDB100Z/posters/mick-stevens-it-runs-on-its-conventional-gasoline-powered-engine-until-it-senses-guilt-new-yorker-cartoon.jpg
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Re: [EVDL] New Electric in the family (PIH)

2017-10-03 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
Well lets hope she can find charging stations close enough.  However after 
doing the math your Prius Prime only gets 56.6 mpg in the real world driving 
the full range.  My 30 kw Leaf cost $13,550 new and gets close to 120mpgE for 
real.  I suspect the higher figure is on electric only.  Which is impressive.   
 Lawrence 
Rhodeshttp://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/60/6004/ITDB100Z/posters/mick-stevens-it-runs-on-its-conventional-gasoline-powered-engine-until-it-senses-guilt-new-yorker-cartoon.jpg
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Re: [EVDL] New Electric in the family (PIH)

2017-10-02 Thread Cor van de Water via EV 
Same here, first car after moving to CA was a 2002 Prius and it still is
my wife's favorite car (daily driver).
Total fleet is 3 Prius hybrids and 2 EVs (S10 truck and Leaf)

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Subject: [EVDL] New Electric in the family (PIH)

I've never been shy about my love of hybrids.  I'm still driving my
Honda Insight that I bought brand new in 2001.  This weekend I bought my
wife a 2016 Prius Prime Advanced.  For those that are not familiar, the
Prime is the newest Plug-in Hybrid from Toyota.  From an EV point of
view it has almost as much range as any of my DIY EVs have ever had, and
so much more to offer.  I'm still a little jealous that people can just
walk into a dealership and get everything I had to spend years of manual
labor to obtain, but not really.  I know there are those on this list
that will always be skeptical, but I think we have finally tipped the
balance and EVs are here for good... In no small part due to the success
of both Tesla and Toyota.


I could never get my wife to drive electric in something I put together
myself and not even a long range EV like the Bolt or Tesla 3 interest
her as a primary vehicle, but when I put a plug-in hybrid in  front of
her with all the latest features and seamless operation all she wants to
do is plan trips so she can drive electric only :)


The Henry fleet is now a mixture of 3 hybrids (1 -PIH) and two EVs.


Damon
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[EVDL] New Electric in the family (PIH)

2017-10-02 Thread damon henry via EV 
I've never been shy about my love of hybrids.  I'm still driving my Honda 
Insight that I bought brand new in 2001.  This weekend I bought my wife a 2016 
Prius Prime Advanced.  For those that are not familiar, the Prime is the newest 
Plug-in Hybrid from Toyota.  From an EV point of view it has almost as much 
range as any of my DIY EVs have ever had, and so much more to offer.  I'm still 
a little jealous that people can just walk into a dealership and get everything 
I had to spend years of manual labor to obtain, but not really.  I know there 
are those on this list that will always be skeptical, but I think we have 
finally tipped the balance and EVs are here for good... In no small part due to 
the success of both Tesla and Toyota.


I could never get my wife to drive electric in something I put together myself 
and not even a long range EV like the Bolt or Tesla 3 interest her as a primary 
vehicle, but when I put a plug-in hybrid in  front of her with all the latest 
features and seamless operation all she wants to do is plan trips so she can 
drive electric only :)


The Henry fleet is now a mixture of 3 hybrids (1 -PIH) and two EVs.


Damon
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