Re: [EVDL] Solid state hydrogen still isn't as affordable as batteries,

2021-08-16 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
From: Mark Abramowitz 
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solid state hydrogen still isn't as affordable as
    batteries,
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>I?m not understanding this. Your problem is that it produces a profit? And 
>that profit might be invested into fossil fuels? Very little of anything would 
>be produced if it didn?t make a profit.

>And please don?t buy any EVs that are made by anyone but Tesla, because the 
>profits will likely be invested in ICEs to some extent. And don?t charge your 
>EV in the UK because the largest EV charging company there was bought several 
>years ago by the oil company Total.

I really must have missed your point.

- Mark

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> On Aug 15, 2021, at 7:06 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV  wrote:
>
> ? I watched this video and found that they have solved the compression 
> problem but it is still big oil friendly. That is it will be a process that 
> forces the user to pay into a system that can be manipulated to increase 
> profit. Like refillable natural gas 
> canisters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEm4mEizns
> This video did not mention KWs so they sort of didn't give a comparison in 
> numbers to batteries but essentially they are making solid state hydrogen 
> storage. I am a bit skeptical because of no apples to apples comparisons. The 
> source hydrogen could be from any source. The advantage seems to be no 
> compression. Lawrence Rhodes
I don't mind a reasonable profit for a service I receive. However to support a 
system that can be manipulated like the liquid fuel system has been is a fool 
me once/fool me twice problem. I am happy charging from my solar system mostly 
with help from pay chargers on trips. My 100% electric (we turned off the 
natural gas which requires a $10 fee every month)household spent $450.00 for a 
year of energy using a 2.4 kw grid tied solar system. This was during 2020. We 
still put 6k each on two EVs. Are you honest and forthright enough to share 
your yearly energy cost for your household or are you simply a hydrogen 
fan(atic)boy? Lawrence Rhodes




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Re: [EVDL] Solid state hydrogen still isn't as affordable as batteries,

2021-08-15 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV 
I’m not understanding this. Your problem is that it produces a profit? And that 
profit might be invested into fossil fuels? Very little of anything would be 
produced if it didn’t make a profit.

And please don’t buy any EVs that are made by anyone but Tesla, because the 
profits will likely be invested in ICEs to some extent. And don’t charge your 
EV in the UK because the largest EV charging company there was bought several 
years ago by the oil company Total.

I really must have missed your point.

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2021, at 7:06 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV  wrote:
> 
>  I watched this video and found that they have solved the compression 
> problem but it is still big oil friendly. That is it will be a process that 
> forces the user to pay into a system that can be manipulated to increase 
> profit. Like refillable natural gas 
> canisters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEm4mEizns
> This video did not mention KWs so they sort of didn't give a comparison in 
> numbers to batteries but essentially they are making solid state hydrogen 
> storage. I am a bit skeptical because of no apples to apples comparisons. The 
> source hydrogen could be from any source. The advantage seems to be no 
> compression. Lawrence Rhodes
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Re: [EVDL] Solid state hydrogen still isn't as affordable as batteries,

2021-08-15 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV 
That, if it comes to fruition, is a solution to one of the big
hindrance to hydrogen usage.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 10:43 AM Lawrence Rhodes via EV
 wrote:
>
>  I watched this video and found that they have solved the compression problem 
> but it is still big oil friendly. That is it will be a process that forces 
> the user to pay into a system that can be manipulated to increase profit. 
> Like refillable natural gas 
> canisters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEm4mEizns
> This video did not mention KWs so they sort of didn't give a comparison in 
> numbers to batteries but essentially they are making solid state hydrogen 
> storage. I am a bit skeptical because of no apples to apples comparisons. The 
> source hydrogen could be from any source. The advantage seems to be no 
> compression. Lawrence Rhodes
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[EVDL] Solid state hydrogen still isn't as affordable as batteries,

2021-08-15 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
 I watched this video and found that they have solved the compression problem 
but it is still big oil friendly. That is it will be a process that forces the 
user to pay into a system that can be manipulated to increase profit. Like 
refillable natural gas canisters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEm4mEizns
This video did not mention KWs so they sort of didn't give a comparison in 
numbers to batteries but essentially they are making solid state hydrogen 
storage. I am a bit skeptical because of no apples to apples comparisons. The 
source hydrogen could be from any source. The advantage seems to be no 
compression. Lawrence Rhodes
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