Re: [EVDL] list of tree hugger charging locations, charging signs

2021-02-02 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV 
I don’t know about any list, but a lot of us are indeed shown on the
PlugShare app.
Bobby Keeland

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:49 AM fred via EV  wrote:

>  Digest pruned of many lines, remaining stuff is pertinent, subject line
> changed.
> I'm surprised it's taken this long for PlugShare to pop up in the
> discussion. I've been listed since our Xebra days (anyone remember that
> rolling disaster?) but that was 110v back then. 10Kw level 2, NEMA 6-50 and
> 110v now, powered by solar.
> Re: charging signs:
> I've visited the site and can't find dimensions nor a means to order. I
> have a laser cutter and can engrave Trotec acrylic (two color) which would
> look just like the signs on the web site, but it might be less expensive to
> buy an aluminum sign. Trotec prices are high and shipping kills the deal.
> If the aluminum signs are not available and there's enough demand, I can
> produce in quantity sufficient to justify the purchase, plus customize
> every sign as desired.
>
>
> Message: 2
> From: Dale Curren Subject: Re: [EVDL] 2035 GM will
> cease ICE production
>
> I want a list of these treehuggers who give out free charges.  Would be a
> fun challenge to get across the country on free electrons.
>
> Message: 6
> From: Lee Hart 
>
> You could certainly cross the northern part of the USA on free charging.
> In the northern parts, free public 120v outlets are everywhere. They
> were originally installed to plug in block heaters so people's ICEs
> would start in the winter.
>
> Most states also have building codes that require outdoor AC outlets.
> They get used for Christmas lights, lawn mowers, etc.
>
> It's polite to ask for permission to use them. But in all my years of
> driving EVs, I've almost never been turned down.
>
> Then of course, you could bring PV panels, and charge from the sun.
>
> Lee
>
> Message: 7From: "EVDL Administrator" On 1 Feb 2021 at
> 13:14, paul dove via EV wrote:
>
> > Every day in my Tesla Model S!
>
> You give out free charges in your Tesla?  Presumably to other EVers, yes?
>
> That's a great idea - helping folks who might otherwise be stranded.
>
> How do you do that?  Is the charging port bi-directional?
>
> Can you charge any other EV, or just Teslas?
>
> If just Teslas, any Tesla, or just another model S?
>
> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 8
> From: Jay Summet 
>
> The PlugShare App & Website lists a lot of them. (There are a lot of
> cities and businesses that put in no-charge EVSE's to attract
> businessor just because it's cheaper to give it away than pay the
> fees to maintain the accounting system to charge for it.)
>
> Jay
>
>
> Message: 2From: Robert Bruninga > but we try to do our
> part hoping that now is the time to put out
> > the sign planting a seed and hoping it will grow.
>
> Amen!
> THe EV Charging OUtlet sign is the most important part.  Not so much for
> the 1%R that might actually need a charge but for the other 99% to see
> everyday and subliminally realize theat EV's can chagfe almsotg anywhere.
> We have been quite successful in getting peo[ple to put up signs over their
> out door outlets:
>
> See http://aprs.org/EV-charging-signs.html
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
>
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Re: [EVDL] list of tree hugger charging locations, charging signs

2021-02-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV 
My local sign company makes the EV CHARGING OUTLET signs for me for about
$25 but in quantities of 25, I think the price was less than $15.

FREE SIGNS:  I found that if I talked someone with an outdoor outlet into
putting up a sign, that then they stopped the deal or lost interest then
when I asekd for $15 to cover the cost of the sign.  Peop;e just think they
are being sold something.

So I learned that the only way to actually get a sign up is to just give
the signs away.

http://aprs.org/EV-charging-signs.html

Bob

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:22 PM fred via EV  wrote:

>  Digest pruned of many lines, remaining stuff is pertinent, subject line
> changed.
> I'm surprised it's taken this long for PlugShare to pop up in the
> discussion. I've been listed since our Xebra days (anyone remember that
> rolling disaster?) but that was 110v back then. 10Kw level 2, NEMA 6-50 and
> 110v now, powered by solar.
> Re: charging signs:
> I've visited the site and can't find dimensions nor a means to order. I
> have a laser cutter and can engrave Trotec acrylic (two color) which would
> look just like the signs on the web site, but it might be less expensive to
> buy an aluminum sign. Trotec prices are high and shipping kills the deal.
> If the aluminum signs are not available and there's enough demand, I can
> produce in quantity sufficient to justify the purchase, plus customize
> every sign as desired.
>
>
> Message: 2
> From: Dale Curren Subject: Re: [EVDL] 2035 GM will
> cease ICE production
>
> I want a list of these treehuggers who give out free charges.  Would be a
> fun challenge to get across the country on free electrons.
>
> Message: 6
> From: Lee Hart 
>
> You could certainly cross the northern part of the USA on free charging.
> In the northern parts, free public 120v outlets are everywhere. They
> were originally installed to plug in block heaters so people's ICEs
> would start in the winter.
>
> Most states also have building codes that require outdoor AC outlets.
> They get used for Christmas lights, lawn mowers, etc.
>
> It's polite to ask for permission to use them. But in all my years of
> driving EVs, I've almost never been turned down.
>
> Then of course, you could bring PV panels, and charge from the sun.
>
> Lee
>
> Message: 7From: "EVDL Administrator" On 1 Feb 2021 at
> 13:14, paul dove via EV wrote:
>
> > Every day in my Tesla Model S!
>
> You give out free charges in your Tesla?  Presumably to other EVers, yes?
>
> That's a great idea - helping folks who might otherwise be stranded.
>
> How do you do that?  Is the charging port bi-directional?
>
> Can you charge any other EV, or just Teslas?
>
> If just Teslas, any Tesla, or just another model S?
>
> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 8
> From: Jay Summet 
>
> The PlugShare App & Website lists a lot of them. (There are a lot of
> cities and businesses that put in no-charge EVSE's to attract
> businessor just because it's cheaper to give it away than pay the
> fees to maintain the accounting system to charge for it.)
>
> Jay
>
>
> Message: 2From: Robert Bruninga > but we try to do our
> part hoping that now is the time to put out
> > the sign planting a seed and hoping it will grow.
>
> Amen!
> THe EV Charging OUtlet sign is the most important part.  Not so much for
> the 1%R that might actually need a charge but for the other 99% to see
> everyday and subliminally realize theat EV's can chagfe almsotg anywhere.
> We have been quite successful in getting peo[ple to put up signs over their
> out door outlets:
>
> See http://aprs.org/EV-charging-signs.html
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
>
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Re: [EVDL] list of tree hugger charging locations, charging signs

2021-02-01 Thread fred via EV 
 Digest pruned of many lines, remaining stuff is pertinent, subject line 
changed.
I'm surprised it's taken this long for PlugShare to pop up in the discussion. 
I've been listed since our Xebra days (anyone remember that rolling disaster?) 
but that was 110v back then. 10Kw level 2, NEMA 6-50 and 110v now, powered by 
solar.
Re: charging signs:
I've visited the site and can't find dimensions nor a means to order. I have a 
laser cutter and can engrave Trotec acrylic (two color) which would look just 
like the signs on the web site, but it might be less expensive to buy an 
aluminum sign. Trotec prices are high and shipping kills the deal. If the 
aluminum signs are not available and there's enough demand, I can produce in 
quantity sufficient to justify the purchase, plus customize every sign as 
desired.

  
Message: 2
From: Dale Curren Subject: Re: [EVDL] 2035 GM will cease 
ICE production

I want a list of these treehuggers who give out free charges.  Would be a
fun challenge to get across the country on free electrons.

Message: 6
From: Lee Hart 

You could certainly cross the northern part of the USA on free charging. 
In the northern parts, free public 120v outlets are everywhere. They 
were originally installed to plug in block heaters so people's ICEs 
would start in the winter.

Most states also have building codes that require outdoor AC outlets. 
They get used for Christmas lights, lawn mowers, etc.

It's polite to ask for permission to use them. But in all my years of 
driving EVs, I've almost never been turned down.

Then of course, you could bring PV panels, and charge from the sun.

Lee

Message: 7From: "EVDL Administrator" On 1 Feb 2021 at 13:14, 
paul dove via EV wrote:

> Every day in my Tesla Model S!

You give out free charges in your Tesla?  Presumably to other EVers, yes?

That's a great idea - helping folks who might otherwise be stranded.

How do you do that?  Is the charging port bi-directional?  

Can you charge any other EV, or just Teslas?  

If just Teslas, any Tesla, or just another model S?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey



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Message: 8
From: Jay Summet 

The PlugShare App & Website lists a lot of them. (There are a lot of 
cities and businesses that put in no-charge EVSE's to attract 
businessor just because it's cheaper to give it away than pay the 
fees to maintain the accounting system to charge for it.)

Jay


Message: 2From: Robert Bruninga > but we try to do our part 
hoping that now is the time to put out
> the sign planting a seed and hoping it will grow.

Amen!
THe EV Charging OUtlet sign is the most important part.  Not so much for
the 1%R that might actually need a charge but for the other 99% to see
everyday and subliminally realize theat EV's can chagfe almsotg anywhere.
We have been quite successful in getting peo[ple to put up signs over their
out door outlets:

See http://aprs.org/EV-charging-signs.html

Bob, WB4APR


  
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