Re: Major revision to my Top-Level Ontology

2007-08-06 Thread marc . geddes


Addendum:  Some further revisions since yesterday... I was almost
there yesterday but not quite.  The last of my confusions have
cleared.  The final revision for my top-level onotlogy is completely
'locked in'.  Added brief descriptions of top-level classes:

http://marc.geddes.googlepages.com/MCRT_ClassDiagram.html

The important point is that there appear to be 27 fundamental
ontological primatives for reality which cannot be simplified or
merged any further.  These 27 primatives generate 27 irreducible
classes for any completely general model of reality.  And the classes
appear to be related to each other in a very precise way.  Below I
give the brief descriptions of what I believe these classes to be and
the domain model (see link below) hints at the precise nature of the
relationship I think I may have discovered.  I now believe I
understand literally 'everything' (in the general conceptual sense at
least).  Of course the devils is in the details and decades may pass
before a precise new scientific theory emerges.  Be patient whilst I
write up more information about my theory, since I've revealed very
little so far.  But I'm very very very confident but I've hit the
metaphorical bullseye at the center of literally everything.

The 27 fundamental irreducible classes are as follows:

Field Physics: Laws of space and time

Thermodynamics: Laws of energy exchange

Mechanics: Laws of the action of forces

Computational Physics: Physical systems

Chemistry: Physical transformations

Robotics: Directed physical actions

Solid State Physics: Properties of static concrete objects

Engineering: Properties of static complex structures

Data Communications: Properties of communication hardware and
information theory

Virtue: Ideals for personal goals or the study or Eudaimonia (Self
Fulfillment)

Morality: Ideals for social interaction or the study of Liberty

Aesthetics: Ideals for communication or the study of Beauty

Social Psychology: Roles and Personas of agents

Decision Theory: The process of agent decision making

Communication: Agent interaction for the exchange of meaningful
inforamtion

Economics: Goods and Services

Memetics: Cultural Beliefs

Linguistics: Social Languages

Symbolic Logic: Formal systems and Mathematical foundations

Category Theory: Numbers and Algebra

Calculus: Analysis: Limits and Rates of Change

Theory Of Computation: Formal Proof Theory and Deductive Reasoning

Bayesian Induction: Probability Theory and Inductive Reasoning

Reflective Possibility Theory: Reflective Reasoning

Software: Computer Programs and Applications

Software Engineering: Design, Analysis and Implementation of software

Modelling Languages: Scientific/Programming languages for data
modelling

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Annotation in my Log-Book reads:

Date:  06 August, 2007
Time:  4.45pm
Place: 'Gloria Jean's Coffee', Borders, Queen Street, Auckland,New
Zealand

Note: At this time I completed the top-level MCRT Ontology.  At the
conceptual level this is the day I finally understood everything!
About 5 years have passed since I first started trying for the top-
level ontology of reality.  (Date Started: Mid 2002.  Date Finished:
Aug, 2007).


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2007-08-06 Thread Torgny Tholerus

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Re: Zuse Symposium: Is the universe a computer? Berlin Nov 6-7

2007-08-06 Thread John
Colin and all:
it was a shock to receive your post (below).
First I have to copy it out and restore the text to some readability from all 
those haphazardous   lines.
Then I have to restore my thinking into those lines of the topic - right 
recently 'destroyed' by a list inuindating me with 100+ posts daily mostly with 
political hogwash, but many of them with interesting multitopical content. 

I hope to return to sanity.
Then I will try to respond - if I feel I can - which will require an other 
aberration from the ubiquitous 'sanity' into the ideas of this list. This is 
something like being 'normal' as we discussed it with George Levy a year or so 
ago. Sane (normal) is average and usual. If the majority is insane, that is the 
normal sanity (oops I fell back into politics). 
So let me renormalize (not in theor. physical ways) and please,
accept my reply kindly - after some time.
Happy birthday
John Mikes
  - Original Message - 
  From: Colin Geoffrey Hales 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Zuse Symposium: Is the universe a computer? Berlin Nov 6-7



  sorry about all the posts.
  something weird going on.

  
   see below..
  
  
   See below, please
   John
   - Original Message -
   From: Colin Geoffrey Hales [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:58 AM
   Subject: Re: Zuse Symposium: Is the universe a computer? Berlin Nov 6-7
  
  
   Addition to my lost and found 1st post in this topic to
   Marc:
   I wonder how would you define besides 'universe' and 'computer' the
   
   IS
   ?
   *
   I agree that 'existence' is  more than a definitional question. Any
   suggestion yet of an (insufficient?) definition?
   (Not Descartes' s I think therefore I think I am  and so on) John
   There's only 1 thing which is intrinsic to the idea of 'being' that I
   can
   think of:
   Regardless of the scale (choices = quark, atom, human, planet, galaxy),
   if
   you are to 'be' whatever it is that comprises that which you are
   'being',
   you automatically define a perspective on the rest of the universe. It
   does not mean that perspective is visible, only that the perspective is
   innate to the situation.
   SoI am made of one little chunk of the universe, you another and so
   on. My chunk is not your chunk and vice versa. If I am an atom then I get
   a view of the rest of the universe (that is expressing an un-atom). The
   rest of the universe has a perspective view of the atom.
   This division of 'thing' and 'un-thing' within the universe is implicit
   to
   the situation. The division is notional from an epistemological stand
   point, where we 'objectify' to describe. That does not alter the
   'reality'
   of the innate perspective 'view' involved with 'being' the described.
   make sense?
   Colin
   JM:
   maybe, not to my understanding;
   I separated the 'existence' from the 'IS, in which of course an
   'identity' - at least similarity is involved originally.
   May I paraphrase your explanation:
   I am - 'made of a chunk  of something called universe, - whatever I
   call
   so - and the 'rest of the world' is made of chunks of something
   different.
   Not too explanatory.
   Of course it  disregards my question and starts with an implied  if I
   exist... what the question really was. Not only I, but 'ANYTHING'. I was
   driving towards the difference between 'be' amd 'become' - the first
   a
   snapshot stationalized, the 2nd in an ever changing process.
   So:  what is existence'?
  
   John
  
  
  
   To exist is to be a chunk of our universe.
  
   Why is there a universe?
  
   I can manufacture a universe out of randomness of any sort. The randomness
   is a sea of monkeys typing...one day, accidentally, they write a
   masterpiece.
  
   Why is there randomness?
  
   It takes an infinite amount of energy to maintain a perfect Nothing. The
   logical impossibility of a perfect Nothing means not-Nothing must be true.
   not-Nothing is Something. So universes existence because of a failure not
   to exist, simply because it's impossibly hard.
  
   This may not feel very satisfactory, but, it is quite logically sound.
  
   It doesn't actually matter what the true nature of the randomness is...the
   same sorts of structures can be made with it. Us. At the deep structural
   levels of the randomness the details don't matter.
  
   So there you go life the universe and eveything. It's all completely
   meaningless noise and it'll all go back to other random versions of
   'Not-Nothing' (not so eloquent monkey scribble) in due course, and all our
   efforts will amount to nothing. Literally. So enjoy your qualia while you
   have them!
  
  
   Is the universe a computer? No.
   It the universe computation? Yes.
  
   :-)
  
   Colin Hales
  
  
  
  
   
  




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