Re: John Leslie's 'Infinite Minds: A Philosophical Cosmology'
On 05 Jul 2013, at 15:19, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Brent, please acknowledge that aside from the divine right of kings, the Atheist-Marxists did exactly the identical badness under the leaderships of Stalin,Mao, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty in North Korean, slaughtered tens of millions, tortured, deprived women of rights, slave labor, and specialized, in torture. All these scientific socialsts, all athesists. Just a way of putting things into perspective. Atheism and Christianism are both slight variation of Aristotelian materialism. It is mainly the same theology, with the same social drawback, and the same use of argument per authority. Their fake opposition hides the real debate on the nature of reality. Atheists are usually just slightly more dishonest when talking like if science was on their side, which is a mockery of what is science at the start. Science does not commit itself ontologically at all. It is agnostic by construction. Bruno Mitch Peasent: Hey! That's a good idea! God: Of course it's a good idea, you idiot! Monty Python and the Holy Grail Of course this ethic requiredness supported slavery, ethnic cleansing, divine right of kings, faith over inquiry, ignorance over knowledge, oppression of women, and infinite torture for unbelievers. Brent Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason. --- Martin Luther -Original Message- From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 4, 2013 8:19 pm Subject: Re: John Leslie's 'Infinite Minds: A Philosophical Cosmology' On 7/4/2013 5:02 PM, freqflyer07281972 wrote: Hey List! (and in particular Bruno) I have started re-reading the book I mention in the subject line -- after languishing in my bookshelf for a number of years, I pulled it out and began noticing the uncanny parallels it had with Bruno's UDA, although it reaches the same conclusions by some rather different means, notably; it postulates God as the thinker of all thoughts, envisioning god in a Spinozistic/Platonic light, and (something that from what I have read seems absent from the UDA) postulates the 'ethical requiredness' of God as being of enough force to bring him into being, thus short-circuiting the old If God exists, what caused him to exist? type of argument. Yeah, postulating is a good way to short circuit arguments (and burn out rational wiring). I guess my general question is if any of you are familiar with Leslie's work and if so, to what degree, and also if so, to what degree do you find it plausible? Myself, I seem to be going through a kind of metaphysical conversion of sorts, one where, despite the multiplicity of minds/universes, there nevertheless seems to be an unspeakable and seemingly permanent unity to all things. I'm almost leaning towards Christianity, for the simple reason that it seems peculiar and particular enough to just be right and suitable to reality. (Reading CS Lewis' 'Mere Christianity' has swayed me in this way -- check it out, it's online). Of course this ethic requiredness supported slavery, ethnic cleansing, divine right of kings, faith over inquiry, ignorance over knowledge, oppression of women, and infinite torture for unbelievers. Brent Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason. --- Martin Luther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Leibniz is getting a lot of exposure. My site on him has 2399 views for 2013-14 from 32 countries
You had 2399 views for 2013-14 from 32 countries Upload Papers View Analytics Your analytics snapshot for 2013-2014 1,156 profile views 1,243 document views Your views this year: Traffic Sources 1,612 academia.edu 52 Yahoo 16 Google 10 nabble.com 8 mail-archive.comTop Keywords 2 roger b. clough -massena 2 http://team.academia.edu/rogerclough 1 entelechy potential 1 definitions of consciousness 1 dual aspect theory causation To get more page views Upload Your Papers Click here to disable analytics snapshot emails. Academia.edu, 251 Kearny St., Suite 520, San Francisco, CA, 94108 Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Which one result in maths has surprised you the most?
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Materialism has no means to deal with subjective experience
The universe is made up of two kinds of entities: subjective experience and objective objects. Materialism has no means to deal with subjective experience. These are very well-defined categories. The Cs dipoole I spoke of has one kind at each end so, all 'in all, there is only one kind of entity. If it is broken down to its simplest form, that is a monad, so the universe consists of an infinite number of monads. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
In Leibniz there is no such thing as physical causality.
In Leibniz there is no such thing as physical causality. Everything is mental. From ideas to quanta to billiard balls. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: John Leslie's 'Infinite Minds: A Philosophical Cosmology'
On 7/6/2013 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Atheists are usually just slightly more dishonest when talking like if science was on their side, which is a mockery of what is science at the start. Atheists think science is on their side because the common monotheisms demand faith in ancient myths and they murdered and tortured people for teaching what is now common scienctific knowledge. I'd think someone named Bruno would be more aware of that. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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http://www.salon.com/2013/07/06/god_is_not_great_christopher_hitchens_is_not_a_liar/ Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
