Re: An invisible fuzzy amoral mindless blob, aka God

2016-12-25 Thread Brent Meeker



On 12/25/2016 12:40 AM, Torgny Tholerus wrote:

2016-12-25 03:07 skrev John Clark:

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Bruno Marchal 
wrote:


​>>​ usage says that "God" means an immortal person with
supernatural power who wants, and deserves, to be worshipped.







​> ​That's the Christian use
​ ​. Why do atheists insist so much we use the christian notion,


Well... at least atheists have some notation in mind when they use the
word
​.​ It may not exist but at least "an immortal person with
supernatural power who wants and deserves to be worshiped" means
something.
​  Theists, at least most of those on this list, quite literally
don't know what they're talking about when they talk about "God".
​ ​As near as I can tell to them the word "God"  means an
invisible fuzzy amoral blob that does nothing and knows nothing and
thinks about nothing
​ that we can not effect and that does not effect our lives​. Why
even invent a word for a concept as useless as that?


I have found that God is exactly the same as my subconscious.  And my 
subconscious is connected to other peoples subconsciouses.


When I pray, I talk to my own subconscious.  Then my subconscious 
talks to other peoples subconsciouses.  Then one persons subconscious 
is affecting this persons behavior, so that I get answer to my prayer.




Psychiatrist:   "Look--how do you know you're God?"
Lord Gurney: "Well, every time I pray, I find that I'm talking to myself."
--- Peter Barnes, "The Ruling Class"

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Re: An invisible fuzzy amoral mindless blob, aka God

2016-12-25 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I am wondering if that is not straight out of Carl Jung? Years ago Italian, 
physicist Paula Zizzi wrote a few papers on cosmological networks. Also, what 
it really proves to be, and what we 'want' it to be. In another forum, I 
presented an essay by physicist, Sean Carroll (happy atheist), and it's 
paralleling, computer scientist, Ed Fredkin, on physical laws or actions 
descending from an area beyond the physical universe. Known, from Fredkin, as 
"Fredkin's Other." and known from Carroll, as "Conscious Agents." On the other 
hand, Torgny, it may have zero to do with your unconscious.



-Original Message-
From: Torgny Tholerus 
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Cc: John Clark 
Sent: Sun, Dec 25, 2016 3:40 am
Subject: Re: An invisible fuzzy amoral mindless blob, aka God

2016-12-25 03:07 skrev John Clark:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Bruno Marchal 
> wrote:
> 
>>> ​>>​ usage says that "God" means an immortal person with
>>> supernatural power who wants, and deserves, to be worshipped.
> 
>> 
> 
>> ​> ​That's the Christian use
>> ​ ​. Why do atheists insist so much we use the christian notion,
> 
> Well... at least atheists have some notation in mind when they use the
> word
> ​.​ It may not exist but at least "an immortal person with
> supernatural power who wants and deserves to be worshiped" means
> something.
> ​  Theists, at least most of those on this list, quite literally
> don't know what they're talking about when they talk about "God".
> ​ ​As near as I can tell to them the word "God"  means an
> invisible fuzzy amoral blob that does nothing and knows nothing and
> thinks about nothing
> ​ that we can not effect and that does not effect our lives​. Why
> even invent a word for a concept as useless as that?

I have found that God is exactly the same as my subconscious.  And my 
subconscious is connected to other peoples subconsciouses.

When I pray, I talk to my own subconscious.  Then my subconscious talks 
to other peoples subconsciouses.  Then one persons subconscious is 
affecting this persons behavior, so that I get answer to my prayer.

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Re: An invisible fuzzy amoral mindless blob, aka God

2016-12-25 Thread Torgny Tholerus

2016-12-25 03:07 skrev John Clark:

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Bruno Marchal 
wrote:


​>>​ usage says that "God" means an immortal person with
supernatural power who wants, and deserves, to be worshipped.







​> ​That's the Christian use
​ ​. Why do atheists insist so much we use the christian notion,


Well... at least atheists have some notation in mind when they use the
word
​.​ It may not exist but at least "an immortal person with
supernatural power who wants and deserves to be worshiped" means
something.
​  Theists, at least most of those on this list, quite literally
don't know what they're talking about when they talk about "God".
​ ​As near as I can tell to them the word "God"  means an
invisible fuzzy amoral blob that does nothing and knows nothing and
thinks about nothing
​ that we can not effect and that does not effect our lives​. Why
even invent a word for a concept as useless as that?


I have found that God is exactly the same as my subconscious.  And my 
subconscious is connected to other peoples subconsciouses.


When I pray, I talk to my own subconscious.  Then my subconscious talks 
to other peoples subconsciouses.  Then one persons subconscious is 
affecting this persons behavior, so that I get answer to my prayer.


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Torgny

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