Re: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Why not head back into your self-imposed ghetto Lawrence? Or is this a control 
thing with you? 


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2020 7:49 am
Subject: Re: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs Un-Awakened 
(pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses

This thread of posts is really bizarre and borders on some sort of Twilight 
Zone form of madness.
LC

On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 3:49:26 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Besides being an idiot, what would you guys  a person who is a pragmatist, a 
militant one, a utilitarian like Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill, and see's 
engineering (science & technology) as a first go to, in solution of a problem? 
I consider myself to be this kind of creature, simply because I believe it to 
yield actual solutions to actual problems. I am less and less troubled by 
somebody being a racist the older I get, even though my blood relatives went up 
adolf's chimneys. I am more persuaded by the question is, can he or she look 
past our own bigotry and hatreds, to come to a deal that would alleviate the 
big problems of today?
Yeah, I know I don't matter as an individual, but applying utilitarianism seems 
to produce the best outcomes (medical phrase). So, can we say, for example, 
that we spend cash on R&D for covid, not because we love each other, but 
because we can make life (for ourselves and kin) better? Can we, if it is 
decided as accurate, go big for solar and batteries, if this lightens the 
climate load and produces abundant electricity??  That kind of thing. My fix 
for abortion is embryo-fetus transfer since it nows seems workable. This would 
bypass literally anti-abortionists and pro-abortion thinking. A womb with a 
view.
https://leapsmag.com/artificial-wombs-are-getting-closer-to-reality-for-premature-babies/


-Original Message-
From: Philip Benjamin 
To: everyth...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2020 10:11 am
Subject: FW: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs Un-Awakened 
(pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses

       From: Philip Benjamin 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:09 AM
Subject: FW: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs Un-Awakened 
(pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses    Philip Benjamin  Saturday, November 21, 
2020 9:01 AM consciousn...@yahoogroups.com; mind...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: general...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs Un-Awakened 
(pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses . [Serge Patlavskiy] Unlike you, I am not a 
racist and do not divide people into whites, blacks, or purples. I divide 
people into those who are able to think rationally and for those who aren't. 
Persuasion to endorse the results of elections by brute force and by 
threatening the family members has nothing to do with democracy. . Kindly, 
Serge [Philip Benjamin] There are obviously “rational” persons, never needing 
obscenities or peremptory ad hominems (provoked ones are sometimes excusable) 
which is very much unlike the patented behavior of WAMP-the-Ingrate -- Western 
Acade-Media Pagan(ism). There are only two kinds of PERSONS.  They are not 
Liberal/Progressive or Conservative/Traditionalists. Rather they have Awakened 
(Augustinian) Transformed consciousness or they have Un-awakened, 
kundalini/reptilian consciousness. One category is pagan and the other 
non-pagan. Augustine was once a profligate Phoenician pagan (of Greco-Roman 
roots). According to his CONFESSIONS (autobiography) he was transformed 
(“accidentally”) by the Scriptures through the Spirit [of Adonai (plural) YHWH 
(singular) Elohim (uni-plural)] into a non-pagan. That helped him to baptize 
metaphorical Platonism into Scriptural norms and thus pull the West away from 
Greco-Roman paganism. He thus became the chief architect (and still remains so) 
of a civilization that pursued REALITIES, not metaphysical metaphors, which 
eventually created an atmosphere conducive to modern science and technology, 
not vice versa. WAMP-the-Ingrate is the beneficiary of that.  While there 
are no (and cannot be) cultural pagans (only REAL pagans), there are cultural 
non-pagans who for all practical purposes are Augustinian in their thought 
forms and behavioral patterns, but not NECESSARILY transformed in the 
Augustinian sense. The clash today in the Augustinian West in general and the 
Puritan America in particular is between paganism and non-paganism (real and 
cultural), not Liberals vs Conservative nor Progressive Vs Traditionalists 
(which are only manifestations or reflections of paganism and non-paganism. 
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Re: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses

[Lawrence Crowell]

This thread of posts is really bizarre and borders on some sort of Twilight 
Zone form of madness.

LC

On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 3:49:26 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

> Besides being an idiot, what would you guys  a person who is a 
> pragmatist, a militant one, a utilitarian like Jeremy Bentham and John 
> Stuart Mill, and see's engineering (science & technology) as a first go to, 
> in solution of a problem? I consider myself to be this kind of creature, 
> simply because I believe it to yield actual solutions to actual problems. I 
> am less and less troubled by somebody being a racist the older I get, even 
> though my blood relatives went up adolf's chimneys. I am more persuaded by 
> the question is, can he or she look past our own bigotry and hatreds, to 
> come to a deal that would alleviate the big problems of today? 
>
> Yeah, I know I don't matter as an individual, but applying utilitarianism 
> seems to produce the best outcomes (medical phrase). So, can we say, for 
> example, that we spend cash on R&D for covid, not because we love each 
> other, but because we can make life (for ourselves and kin) better? Can we, 
> if it is decided as accurate, go big for solar and batteries, if this 
> lightens the climate load and produces abundant electricity??  That kind of 
> thing. My fix for abortion is embryo-fetus transfer since it nows seems 
> workable. This would bypass literally anti-abortionists and pro-abortion 
> thinking. A womb with a view.
>
>
> https://leapsmag.com/artificial-wombs-are-getting-closer-to-reality-for-premature-babies/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Philip Benjamin 
> To: everyth...@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2020 10:11 am
> Subject: FW: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs 
> Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses
>
>  
>  
> *From:* Philip Benjamin 
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:09 AM
> *Subject:* FW: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs 
> Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses
>  
> Philip Benjamin  Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:01 AM 
> consciousn...@yahoogroups.com; mind...@yahoogroups.com
> *Cc:* general...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs 
> Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses
> .
> [*S**erge Patlavskiy*] Unlike you, I am not a racist and do not divide 
> people into whites, blacks, or purples. I divide people into those who are 
> able to think rationally and for those who aren't. Persuasion to endorse 
> the results of elections by brute force and by threatening the family 
> members has nothing to do with democracy.
> .
> Kindly,
> Serge
> [*Philip Benjamin*]
> There are obviously “rational” persons, never needing obscenities or 
> peremptory ad hominems (provoked ones are sometimes excusable) which is 
> very much unlike the patented behavior of WAMP-the-Ingrate -- Western 
> Acade-Media Pagan(ism). There are only two kinds of PERSONS.  They are not 
> Liberal/Progressive or Conservative/Traditionalists. Rather they have 
> Awakened (Augustinian) Transformed consciousness or they have Un-awakened, 
> kundalini/reptilian consciousness. One category is pagan and the other 
> non-pagan. Augustine was once a profligate Phoenician pagan (of Greco-Roman 
> roots). According to his CONFESSIONS (autobiography) he was transformed 
> (“accidentally”) by the Scriptures through the Spirit [of Adonai (plural) 
> YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural)] into a non-pagan. That helped him to 
> baptize metaphorical Platonism into Scriptural norms and thus pull the West 
> away from Greco-Roman paganism. He thus became the chief architect (and 
> still remains so) of a civilization that pursued REALITIES, not 
> metaphysical metaphors, which eventually created an atmosphere conducive to 
> modern science and technology, not vice versa. WAMP-the-Ingrate is the 
> beneficiary of that. 
>  While there are no (and cannot be) cultural pagans (only REAL 
> pagans), there are cultural non-pagans who for all practical purposes are 
> Augustinian in their thought forms and behavioral patterns, but not 
> NECESSARILY transformed in the Augustinian sense. The clash today in the 
> Augustinian West in general and the Puritan America in particular is 
> between paganism and non-paganism (real and cultural), not Liberals vs 
> Conservative nor Progressive Vs Traditionalists (which are only 
> manifestations or reflections of paganism and non-paganism.
> *Presuppositional Evidentialist*
> *Philip Benjamin*
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Re: Penrose Singularity Predicts The End of Space Time

[Lawrence Crowell]

On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 7:04:35 AM UTC-6 PGC wrote:

> If an an observer like a Trump with Walter Reed hospital and loyal 
> republican fanboy base get sent through the event horizon, he will not be 
> subject to spaghettification due to:
>
> 1) Being already constituted of McSpaghetti 
> 2) the paradox of having him loose his fat due to spaghettification is so 
> absurd, particularly after seeing him in those tennis shorts, everybody's 
> brains and all black holes would explode. 
>
> This is a proof for why Trump is indestructible and should be sent to a 
> black hole to verify. Just make sure it isn't the Reissner–Nordström or 
> Kerr type, because if he can avoid singularities, you know that he will. 
> He'll find the worm-loopholes and all the right entry angles and velocities 
> to get away from his taxes, swing into the past and change everything he 
> needs. That's how he won in 2016 and what his legal team is up to atm. PGC
>

Sort of why I compare t'Rump with Godzilla. He stomps forwards demolishing 
everything in his path and nothing that is arrayed against him works. 

LC
 

> On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 11:55:11 AM UTC+1 Lawrence Crowell wrote:
>
>> It simply means the trapping region of a black hole contains a further 
>> region where the Weyl curvature diverges. It means there must be some other 
>> physics and that general relativity is a classical approximation to 
>> something more fundamental.
>>
>> LC 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 8:31:50 PM UTC-6 agrays...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In plain English, what are the implications of this singularity theorem? 
>>> AG
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 10:43:37 AM UTC-7 Lawrence Crowell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I thought Penrose was his advisor. They wrote papers together on the 
 singularity theorems.

 LC

 On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 6:50:09 AM UTC-6 cloud...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Stephen William Hawking
>
> https://www.genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=78459
>
> Advisor: Dennis William Siahou Sciama 
> 
>
>
> On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 6:27:29 AM UTC-6 Lawrence Crowell 
> wrote:
>
>> Penrose was Hawking's primary dissertation advisor.
>>
>> LC
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 9:28:49 PM UTC-6 
>> agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hawking was Penrose's protégé ? On physics, what does this mean, in 
>>> plain English? TIA, AG
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 3:07:02 PM UTC-7 Lawrence Crowell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The work of Penrose and Hawking, Hawking at the time his protégé, 
 is that there is a region where all geodesics are incomplete. The 
 geodesics 
 end and they do so at a spacelike region where the Weyl curvature 
 diverges. 

 LC

 On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 10:48:11 PM UTC-6 
 agrays...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4odQd8q3xY
>


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