Fantastic group. Been looking for people to continue those valuable conversations. I'm listening to them every single day sometimes all day long and deep into the night. Jiddu Krishnamurti is The ultimate philosopher. David Bohm is the only one during his life time who understood him.
On Sunday, September 1, 2013 at 6:39:32 AM UTC-7, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > > I am reading David Bohm, Thought as a System. A few quotes below to the > theme that is quite often under discussion here. > > Evgenii > > p. 72 “We have to be able to think on this clearly; even though, as I > said, that by itself won’t really change the reflexes. But if we don’t > think of it clearly then all our attempts to get into this will go > wrong. Clear thinking implies that we are in some way awakened a little > bit. Perhaps there is something beyond the reflex which is at work – in > other words, something unconditioned.” > > p. 72 “The question is really: is there the unconditioned? If everything > is conditioned, then there’s no way out. But the very fact that we are > sometimes able to see new things would suggest that there is > unconditioned. Maybe the deeper material structure of the brain is > unconditioned, or maybe beyond.” > > p. 72 “If there is the unconditioned, which could be the movement of > intelligence, then there is some possibility of getting into this.” > > p. 73 “If we say that there cannot be the unconditioned, then it would > be foolish for us to try to do anything with the conditioning. Is that > clear?” > > p. 72 “If we once assume that there cannot be the unconditioned, then > we’re stuck. On the other hand, if we assume that there is the > unconditioned, again we are going to be stuck – we will produce an image > of the unconditioned in the system of conditioning, and mistake the > image for the unconditioned. Therefore, let’s say that there may be the > unconditioned. We leave room for that. We have to leave room in our > thought for possibilities.” > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
