Yup, so anything goes from there. But I fail to see anything convincingly constructive, except maybe a few ideas for fiction, where everybody is omnipotent god that can manipulate truth. So fiction section in bookstore or Amazon?
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Brian Tenneson <tenn...@gmail.com> wrote: > The thread is about the possibility of an omnipotent being being able to > manipulate what is true. > > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < > multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello Everythinglisters, >> >> First post here, and seems fun to get lost reading the discussions from >> time to time, so here somebody contributing with a more musical tendency. >> >> It's funny how this game keeps cropping up where people want to do stuff >> like: 1 + 1 = 11 >> >> If people are sincere about pulling whatever sums they feel like with >> personal justification, then we might as well say 1 + 1 = 0, with a kind of >> zen logic, where everything = nothing as a fancy justification. And anybody >> still willing to assert this could post their bank account details and pin >> numbers and be freed from arithmetic dictatorship by having their account >> cleaned out by other everything listers that DO believe in sums, successors >> etc. as 0 = whatever they want, and the sum of their balance doesn't really >> matter, as it's only some personal belief shared by a few control freaks. >> >> Guitar and composition imho, have arithmetic overlap, albeit in a less >> than total sense, which is why I won't have to post my details here :) >> >> Looking forward to contributing from time to time. >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:09:53 AM UTC+2, JohnM wrote: >>> >>> Bruno asked: >>> ..... Is that an absolute truth? >>> >>> By no means. It is a word-flower, a semantic hint, something in MY >>> agnosticism and I feel like a semantic messenger only. I accept better >>> expressions. >>> (Except for "absolute truth" - ha ha). >>> And Teilhard was a great master of words. >>> John M >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 29 Jun 2012, at 16:21, John Mikes wrote: >>>> >>>> Brent, thanks for the appreciation! >>>> >>>> My point was simply that anybody's 'truth' is conditioned. >>>> We have no (approvable?) authority for an ABSOLUTE truth. Whatever "WE" >>>> accept is "human". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is that an absolute truth? >>>> >>>> In my humble opinion, "WE = human" seems to me quite relative. When I >>>> listen to the jumping spiders or the Löbian machines, most seems to >>>> disagree. >>>> >>>> Bruno >>>> >>>> *We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are >>>> spiritual beings having a human experience.* >>>> (de Chardin). >>>> >>>> >>>> What is Mother Nature accepting? >>>> >>>> John M >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:09 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/28/2012 12:46 PM, John Mikes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Brent: >>>>>> I am the 3rd kind of the two: think not in binary, just in plain >>>>>> peasant logic, when 1 and 1 make 11, nothing more. >>>>>> So Bruno's "absolute truth" may have even more relatives. >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Or less facetiously, (The father of Kirsten)+(The father of >>>>> Gennifer)=(One, me) and (one raindrop)+(one raindrop)=(one raindrop). >>>>> So >>>>> whether successor(x)=(x+1) depends on the applicability of arithmetic to >>>>> your model. >>>>> >>>>> Brent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.**c* >>>>> *om <everything-list@googlegroups.com>. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> everything-list+unsubscribe@**go**oglegroups.com<everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group >>>>> **/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> everything-list@googlegroups.**com<everything-list@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~**marchal/<http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/%7Emarchal/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>> everything-list@googlegroups.**com<everything-list@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/aa8ElOQLmdwJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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