Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On 4 April 2014 20:25, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 03 Apr 2014, at 16:42, Gabriel Bodeen wrote: > > FWIW, on a flight this weekend I read a bit of Amoeba's Secret on my > kindle while the stranger in the seat next to me was reading Tegmark's > book. If plane rides didn't make me fall unconscious almost immediately, > that might have been grounds for an interesting live discussion. :) > > > Lol. > > To sleep in a plane is like to sleep when you are high! > 11 kilometres high! > Some people do that. You miss the sun above the clouds! It is magic. I > love plane. > I can't sleep on planes, last time I travelled from the UK to NZ I couldn't sleep in the transit hotel either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel Bodeen Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 7:43 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback FWIW, on a flight this weekend I read a bit of Amoeba's Secret on my kindle while the stranger in the seat next to me was reading Tegmark's book. If plane rides didn't make me fall unconscious almost immediately, that might have been grounds for an interesting live discussion. :) Funny coincidence… what are the odds of that? And funny enough as I was reading your post on this list my copy of Bruno’s book Amoeba’s Secret arrived from Amazon/UPS. I am almost done reading Max Tegmark’s book as well. It will be interesting to read these back to back. Cheers, Chris On Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:35:57 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote: Thanks Russell, just ordered a copy as well. It will dovetail in nicely with Max Tegmark’s book, ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On 03 Apr 2014, at 16:42, Gabriel Bodeen wrote: FWIW, on a flight this weekend I read a bit of Amoeba's Secret on my kindle while the stranger in the seat next to me was reading Tegmark's book. If plane rides didn't make me fall unconscious almost immediately, that might have been grounds for an interesting live discussion. :) Lol. To sleep in a plane is like to sleep when you are high! Some people do that. You miss the sun above the clouds! It is magic. I love plane. Bruno On Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:35:57 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote: Thanks Russell, just ordered a copy as well. It will dovetail in nicely with Max Tegmark's book, ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
FWIW, on a flight this weekend I read a bit of Amoeba's Secret on my kindle while the stranger in the seat next to me was reading Tegmark's book. If plane rides didn't make me fall unconscious almost immediately, that might have been grounds for an interesting live discussion. :) On Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:35:57 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote: > > Thanks Russell, just ordered a copy as well. It will dovetail in nicely > with Max Tegmark’s book, ... > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On 1 April 2014 08:32, Kim Jones wrote: > Did anyone around here actually want to talk about Bruno's book, the > subject of this thread? > > I've ordered a copy, but that's all I can really say until I've read it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On 3/31/2014 12:32 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Did anyone around here actually want to talk about Bruno's book, the subject of this thread? Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Sure - after I've read it. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
Did anyone around here actually want to talk about Bruno's book, the subject of this thread? Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain > On 1 Apr 2014, at 2:37 am, Jason Resch wrote: > > I for one found it funny. > > Jason > >> On Mar 30, 2014 5:30 PM, "LizR" wrote: >>> On 30 March 2014 17:43, Russell Standish wrote: >>> Ah, I didn't realise it was a joke. I guess it must be a dig at >>> commitment-phobia, but I can't seem to twist it into something >>> funny. >>> >> Sorry. I will try harder next time. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
I for one found it funny. Jason On Mar 30, 2014 5:30 PM, "LizR" wrote: > On 30 March 2014 17:43, Russell Standish wrote: > >> Ah, I didn't realise it was a joke. I guess it must be a dig at >> commitment-phobia, but I can't seem to twist it into something >> funny. >> >> Sorry. I will try harder next time. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On 30 March 2014 17:43, Russell Standish wrote: > Ah, I didn't realise it was a joke. I guess it must be a dig at > commitment-phobia, but I can't seem to twist it into something > funny. > > Sorry. I will try harder next time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
Ah, I didn't realise it was a joke. I guess it must be a dig at commitment-phobia, but I can't seem to twist it into something funny. Nevermind. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 02:36:39PM +1300, LizR wrote: > If my joke works at all, it needs you to take that quoted line out of > context. (If I understand correctly, committing in a version control system > is booking in your changes so they are accessible to others...?) > > > On 30 March 2014 13:30, Russell Standish wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 12:46:48PM +1300, LizR wrote: > > > On 28 March 2014 20:03, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > > > > I used to get everything to the commit stage, then go home. > > > > > > > Typical guy :-) > > > > > > > I don't know about the "guy" bit, but certainly typical for someone > > with a spouse/significant other, and life outside of work :). > > > > And as I mentioned, if I knew I was going to have a quiet evening at > > home (as opposed to going out to theatre, say), and I thought the > > commit was not likely to be problematic, then I would sometimes > > commit later in the day on the understanding that I would log in again > > remote at say 8:30 or 9 pm - just to check things, and fix any > > unpredicted problems, or back out if things went completely pear > > shaped. > > > > The point was that the repository system (which is very common - the > > only exception I know of is Aegis) forced this sort of behaviour. > > > > Incidently, in Aegis, the start of a commit would lock the > > repository. If the commit builds and passes its regression tests, the > > code is added to the repository, otherwise its is failed, and the next > > person attempting a commit is processed. > > > > At no stage is it possible for a commit to break the build. > > > > Trouble is Aegis is not popular, mainly because it doesn't play nicely > > with the Windows operating system. I have tried to come up with a way > > of implementing this protocol with the other popular SCMs used - > > mainly subversion, but also perforce, but haven't succeeded. Git comes > > close though - people commit to their local repo, then post a pull > > request. The owner of the master repository then does a pull, and > > either passes or fails the commit. If the master repository owner is > > automated, then you get pretty much the Aegis protocol. > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > > Principal, High Performance Coders > > Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:37 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback If my joke works at all, it needs you to take that quoted line out of context. (If I understand correctly, committing in a version control system is booking in your changes so they are accessible to others...?) That is one aspect of it for sure. Looked at from another angle it is also the process of merging in the change deltas (for CVS type repositories; GIT does it differently, but conceptually it is similar) However; if you think of the case of a main trunk branch (and there can be multiple such branches); committing a branched change set, back into main is the act of merging these changes into this trunk-line of main. On 30 March 2014 13:30, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 12:46:48PM +1300, LizR wrote: > On 28 March 2014 20:03, Russell Standish wrote: > > > I used to get everything to the commit stage, then go home. > > > Typical guy :-) > I don't know about the "guy" bit, but certainly typical for someone with a spouse/significant other, and life outside of work :). And as I mentioned, if I knew I was going to have a quiet evening at home (as opposed to going out to theatre, say), and I thought the commit was not likely to be problematic, then I would sometimes commit later in the day on the understanding that I would log in again remote at say 8:30 or 9 pm - just to check things, and fix any unpredicted problems, or back out if things went completely pear shaped. The point was that the repository system (which is very common - the only exception I know of is Aegis) forced this sort of behaviour. Incidently, in Aegis, the start of a commit would lock the repository. If the commit builds and passes its regression tests, the code is added to the repository, otherwise its is failed, and the next person attempting a commit is processed. At no stage is it possible for a commit to break the build. Trouble is Aegis is not popular, mainly because it doesn't play nicely with the Windows operating system. I have tried to come up with a way of implementing this protocol with the other popular SCMs used - mainly subversion, but also perforce, but haven't succeeded. Git comes close though - people commit to their local repo, then post a pull request. The owner of the master repository then does a pull, and either passes or fails the commit. If the master repository owner is automated, then you get pretty much the Aegis protocol. Cheers -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
If my joke works at all, it needs you to take that quoted line out of context. (If I understand correctly, committing in a version control system is booking in your changes so they are accessible to others...?) On 30 March 2014 13:30, Russell Standish wrote: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 12:46:48PM +1300, LizR wrote: > > On 28 March 2014 20:03, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > > I used to get everything to the commit stage, then go home. > > > > > Typical guy :-) > > > > I don't know about the "guy" bit, but certainly typical for someone > with a spouse/significant other, and life outside of work :). > > And as I mentioned, if I knew I was going to have a quiet evening at > home (as opposed to going out to theatre, say), and I thought the > commit was not likely to be problematic, then I would sometimes > commit later in the day on the understanding that I would log in again > remote at say 8:30 or 9 pm - just to check things, and fix any > unpredicted problems, or back out if things went completely pear > shaped. > > The point was that the repository system (which is very common - the > only exception I know of is Aegis) forced this sort of behaviour. > > Incidently, in Aegis, the start of a commit would lock the > repository. If the commit builds and passes its regression tests, the > code is added to the repository, otherwise its is failed, and the next > person attempting a commit is processed. > > At no stage is it possible for a commit to break the build. > > Trouble is Aegis is not popular, mainly because it doesn't play nicely > with the Windows operating system. I have tried to come up with a way > of implementing this protocol with the other popular SCMs used - > mainly subversion, but also perforce, but haven't succeeded. Git comes > close though - people commit to their local repo, then post a pull > request. The owner of the master repository then does a pull, and > either passes or fails the commit. If the master repository owner is > automated, then you get pretty much the Aegis protocol. > > Cheers > > -- > > > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 12:46:48PM +1300, LizR wrote: > On 28 March 2014 20:03, Russell Standish wrote: > > > I used to get everything to the commit stage, then go home. > > > Typical guy :-) > I don't know about the "guy" bit, but certainly typical for someone with a spouse/significant other, and life outside of work :). And as I mentioned, if I knew I was going to have a quiet evening at home (as opposed to going out to theatre, say), and I thought the commit was not likely to be problematic, then I would sometimes commit later in the day on the understanding that I would log in again remote at say 8:30 or 9 pm - just to check things, and fix any unpredicted problems, or back out if things went completely pear shaped. The point was that the repository system (which is very common - the only exception I know of is Aegis) forced this sort of behaviour. Incidently, in Aegis, the start of a commit would lock the repository. If the commit builds and passes its regression tests, the code is added to the repository, otherwise its is failed, and the next person attempting a commit is processed. At no stage is it possible for a commit to break the build. Trouble is Aegis is not popular, mainly because it doesn't play nicely with the Windows operating system. I have tried to come up with a way of implementing this protocol with the other popular SCMs used - mainly subversion, but also perforce, but haven't succeeded. Git comes close though - people commit to their local repo, then post a pull request. The owner of the master repository then does a pull, and either passes or fails the commit. If the master repository owner is automated, then you get pretty much the Aegis protocol. Cheers -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On 28 March 2014 20:03, Russell Standish wrote: > I used to get everything to the commit stage, then go home. > Typical guy :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:03 AM > Yes, although I think you get (easier) second chances with programming. > > LOL that you do. though in many big environments if you break the > build once you get to eat raw broccoli; you break it twice you're > fired. So then again perhaps not, in some cases. > >> That's tough love! In my last team, you had to buy the wine for the next team lunch if you broke the build. I like that better :) The eat raw broccoli lore comes from the windows team at Microsoft. For a team of that size breaking the build is actually a big deal with large downstream follow on costs, as literally many hundreds of engineers get idled, delivery dates get slipped and so forth. >>That way: a) discourages you from being too cavalier with your submits, b) mollifies your team-mates who might have had to have dealt with consequences of the broken build and c) doesn't scare you shitless about having to commit something that might break the build and possibly lose your job. I agree -- Draconian punishment rarely encourages creative solutions, and, in fact can lead to a situation where everyone conforms to a culture of not touching anything for fear of breaking it. To be fair -- to the Windows team at MS -- no one would lose their job if the build got broken for reasons which the programmer who submitted the changes could not have easily avoided. However if some stupid bug in the checked in code -- that should have been caught in unit testing -- was the culprit that brought the whole thing down then the heat would be applied. >>If you've ever had to deal with a screwed subversion system after trying to upgrade your boost libraries, or after trying to upgrade you Visual Studio version, you'll know there are times when breaking the build is inevitable. Also, if the build times are on the order of 3 hours (as it was in one place), then the "no break the build" policy means that you cannot do a commit after 11am, otherwise you potentially will be staying back after work to fix the build. In that job I used to get everything to the commit stage, then go home. There was an automatic script that synced the repository to my local copy and built as much as possible. When I got in next morning, I did another sync, and build, and usually I was lucky that that finishes by 11am, so that I can commit that day. If not, I'd spend the rest of the day trying to fix my local build, and once that was done, catch up on code reviews, as I couldn't actually do any new coding until I had successfully committed the previous stuff the following day. LOL I have! Or when you have some large -- multi-file checkin -- with a lot of changes in it that is unlucky enough to be on the end of a three or more way resolve full of conflicts. I worked on one team where the build would take around 4 hours (or longer) and they had a 1pm policy. In that case the build script itself was generated by a whole series of other pre-processing scripts which actually generated the build script based on a slew of factors including a lot of environment type factors. >>I much preferred the situation where I could bribe my colleagues with a few glasses of wine if I needed to. Also, I have done my share of remote login to check and fix builds after hours, but that's not always feasible when you've got family depending on your being home. Remote login is a double edged sword. On the one hand it is so convenient to be able to remotely tunnel in and do things like check in on the state of some long running process, and be able to address issues that may be blocking it or causing it to hang, without having to make the drive. Really like that aspect. On the other hand it opens up the door to the "working from home" trap. When I get home I really don't want work following me... and in our business it definitely has the tendency to want to do just that. Like it has with me these last months on this very large scale data mining project I am on Cheers, Chris -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For mor
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:28:06PM -0700, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > > > > From: everything-list@googlegroups.com > [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:24 PM > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback > > > > On 28 March 2014 05:28, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > In some ways it can be compared to a recipe. the right ingredients AND the > right timing & sequence is key.. And makes the difference in outcome between > some sad lump of something and the brilliant cake. > > > > Yes, although I think you get (easier) second chances with programming. > > LOL that you do. though in many big environments if you break the build once > you get to eat raw broccoli; you break it twice you're fired. So then again > perhaps not, in some cases. > That's tough love! In my last team, you had to buy the wine for the next team lunch if you broke the build. That way: a) discourages you from being too cavalier with your submits, b) mollifies your team-mates who might have had to have dealt with consequences of the broken build and c) doesn't scare you shitless about having to commit something that might break the build and possibly lose your job. If you've ever had to deal with a screwed subversion system after trying to upgrade your boost libraries, or after trying to upgrade you Visual Studio version, you'll know there are times when breaking the build is inevitable. Also, if the build times are on the order of 3 hours (as it was in one place), then the "no break the build" policy means that you cannot do a commit after 11am, otherwise you potentially will be staying back after work to fix the build. In that job I used to get everything to the commit stage, then go home. There was an automatic script that synced the repository to my local copy and built as much as possible. When I got in next morning, I did another sync, and build, and usually I was lucky that that finishes by 11am, so that I can commit that day. If not, I'd spend the rest of the day trying to fix my local build, and once that was done, catch up on code reviews, as I couldn't actually do any new coding until I had successfully committed the previous stuff the following day. I much preferred the situation where I could bribe my colleagues with a few glasses of wine if I needed to. Also, I have done my share of remote login to check and fix builds after hours, but that's not always feasible when you've got family depending on your being home. -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:24 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback On 28 March 2014 05:28, Chris de Morsella wrote: In some ways it can be compared to a recipe. the right ingredients AND the right timing & sequence is key.. And makes the difference in outcome between some sad lump of something and the brilliant cake. Yes, although I think you get (easier) second chances with programming. LOL that you do. though in many big environments if you break the build once you get to eat raw broccoli; you break it twice you're fired. So then again perhaps not, in some cases. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
On 28 March 2014 05:28, Chris de Morsella wrote: > In some ways it can be compared to a recipe... the right ingredients AND the > right timing & sequence is key And makes the difference in outcome > between some sad lump of something and the brilliant cake. > > > Yes, although I think you get (easier) second chances with programming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
In some ways it can be compared to a recipe. the right ingredients AND the right timing & sequence is key.. And makes the difference in outcome between some sad lump of something and the brilliant cake. From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:05 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback Programming sounds like cookery. On 27 March 2014 19:35, Chris de Morsella wrote: Thanks Russell, just ordered a copy as well. It will dovetail in nicely with Max Tegmark's book, about to embark on Chapter 12 into the meat of his argument; wish I had more time to finish it a single read. Going by your sig I suspect you will get it. am in the middle of a spot of pretty intense programming that has been swallowing my time and filling my thoughts. Kind of walked into inheriting a hot potato that had been promised some time ago, and never delivered, because the service that had been developed was this byzantine bowl of spaghetti that nobody wanted to touch with a ten foot pole. After struggling with this artfully horrible code for a month to try to understand it well enough to take it on I finally convinced them that it was a lost cause by showing that it was outputting a lot of bad values. That was two weeks ago and in two weeks I essentially rebuilt the entire thing from scratch. So Max has to fit within my lunch hour, in fact there are a few smudges on some of the unlucky pages. Meaning no disrespect, I am afraid, my life being what it is now that your translation of Bruno's book will also share that same lunch hour risk. a little inadvertent splash off the plate of curry perhaps, landing on the page . Apologies for the random detour into life. looking forward to reading my copy when it arrives. Cheers, Chris From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:12 AM To: f...@googlegroups.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback Thank you Russell, I have ordered my copy. On 26 March 2014 17:39, Russell Standish wrote: >From your Amazon store near you. http://www.amazon.com/Amoebas-Secret-Bruno-Marchal/dp/1495992799/ Cheers -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Fabric of Alternate Reality" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to foar+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:foar%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To post to this group, send email to f...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/foar. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
Programming sounds like cookery. On 27 March 2014 19:35, Chris de Morsella wrote: > Thanks Russell, just ordered a copy as well. It will dovetail in nicely > with Max Tegmark's book, about to embark on Chapter 12 into the meat of his > argument; wish I had more time to finish it a single read. Going by your > sig I suspect you will get it... am in the middle of a spot of pretty intense > programming that has been swallowing my time and filling my thoughts. Kind > of walked into inheriting a hot potato that had been promised some time > ago, and never delivered, because the service that had been developed was > this byzantine bowl of spaghetti that nobody wanted to touch with a ten > foot pole. After struggling with this artfully horrible code for a month to > try to understand it well enough to take it on I finally convinced them > that it was a lost cause by showing that it was outputting a lot of bad > values. That was two weeks ago and in two weeks I essentially rebuilt the > entire thing from scratch. > > So Max has to fit within my lunch hour, in fact there are a few smudges on > some of the unlucky pages. Meaning no disrespect, I am afraid, my life > being what it is now that your translation of Bruno's book will also share > that same lunch hour risk... a little inadvertent splash off the plate of > curry perhaps, landing on the page . > > Apologies for the random detour into life... looking forward to reading my > copy when it arrives. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > > *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *LizR > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:12 AM > *To:* f...@googlegroups.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback > > > > Thank you Russell, I have ordered my copy. > > > > On 26 March 2014 17:39, Russell Standish wrote: > > From your Amazon store near you. > > http://www.amazon.com/Amoebas-Secret-Bruno-Marchal/dp/1495992799/ > > Cheers > -- > > > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Fabric of Alternate Reality" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to foar+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to f...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/foar. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
Thanks Russell, just ordered a copy as well. It will dovetail in nicely with Max Tegmark's book, about to embark on Chapter 12 into the meat of his argument; wish I had more time to finish it a single read. Going by your sig I suspect you will get it. am in the middle of a spot of pretty intense programming that has been swallowing my time and filling my thoughts. Kind of walked into inheriting a hot potato that had been promised some time ago, and never delivered, because the service that had been developed was this byzantine bowl of spaghetti that nobody wanted to touch with a ten foot pole. After struggling with this artfully horrible code for a month to try to understand it well enough to take it on I finally convinced them that it was a lost cause by showing that it was outputting a lot of bad values. That was two weeks ago and in two weeks I essentially rebuilt the entire thing from scratch. So Max has to fit within my lunch hour, in fact there are a few smudges on some of the unlucky pages. Meaning no disrespect, I am afraid, my life being what it is now that your translation of Bruno's book will also share that same lunch hour risk. a little inadvertent splash off the plate of curry perhaps, landing on the page . Apologies for the random detour into life. looking forward to reading my copy when it arrives. Cheers, Chris From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:12 AM To: f...@googlegroups.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback Thank you Russell, I have ordered my copy. On 26 March 2014 17:39, Russell Standish wrote: >From your Amazon store near you. http://www.amazon.com/Amoebas-Secret-Bruno-Marchal/dp/1495992799/ Cheers -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Fabric of Alternate Reality" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to foar+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:foar%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To post to this group, send email to f...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/foar. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback
Thank you Russell, I have ordered my copy. On 26 March 2014 17:39, Russell Standish wrote: > From your Amazon store near you. > > http://www.amazon.com/Amoebas-Secret-Bruno-Marchal/dp/1495992799/ > > Cheers > -- > > > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Fabric of Alternate Reality" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to foar+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to f...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/foar. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
