Re: Numbers and other inhabitants of Platonia are also inhabitants ofmonads
String theory and variable fine-structure measurements across the universe suggest that the discrete and distinct monads are ennumerable. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: > On 10/1/2012 10:17 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >> >> Hi Stephen P. King >> >> Good idea, but unfortunately monads are not numbers, >> numbers will now guide them or replace them. >> Monads have to be associated with corporeal bodies down here in >> contingia, where crap happens. > > > Hi Roger, > > I agree, monads are not numbers. Monads use numbers. > >> >> >> Roger Clough,rclo...@verizon.net 10/1/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> >> - Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Stephen P. King >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-09-30, 14:22:03 >> Subject: Re: Numbers and other inhabitants of Platonia are also >> inhabitants ofmonads >> >> >> On 9/30/2012 8:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >>> >>> >Hi Bruno Marchal >>> > >>> >I'm still trying to figure out how numbers and ideas fit >>> >into Leibniz's metaphysics. Little is written about this issue, >>> >so I have to rely on what Leibniz says otherwise about monads. >>> > >>> > >>> >Previously I noted that numbers could not be monads because >>> >monads constantly change. Another argument against numbers >>> >being monads is that all monads must be attached to corporeal >>> >bodies. So monads refer to objects in the (already) created world, >>> >whose identities persist, while ideas and numbers are not >>> >created objects. >>> > >>> >While numbers and ideas cannot be monads, they have to >>> >be are entities in the mind, feelings, and bodily aspects >>> >of monads. For Leibniz refers to the "intellect" of human >>> >monads. And similarly, numbers and ideas must be used >>> >in the "fictional" construction of matter-- in the bodily >>> >aspect of material monads, as well as the construction >>> >of our bodies and brains. >> >> Dear Roger, >> >> Bruno's idea is a form of "Pre-Established Hamony", in that the >> "truth" of the numbers is a pre-established ontological primitive. >> >> -- >> Onward! > > > > -- > Onward! > > Stephen > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Numbers and other inhabitants of Platonia are also inhabitants ofmonads
On 10/1/2012 10:17 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King Good idea, but unfortunately monads are not numbers, numbers will now guide them or replace them. Monads have to be associated with corporeal bodies down here in contingia, where crap happens. Hi Roger, I agree, monads are not numbers. Monads use numbers. Roger Clough,rclo...@verizon.net 10/1/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-30, 14:22:03 Subject: Re: Numbers and other inhabitants of Platonia are also inhabitants ofmonads On 9/30/2012 8:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >Hi Bruno Marchal > >I'm still trying to figure out how numbers and ideas fit >into Leibniz's metaphysics. Little is written about this issue, >so I have to rely on what Leibniz says otherwise about monads. > > >Previously I noted that numbers could not be monads because >monads constantly change. Another argument against numbers >being monads is that all monads must be attached to corporeal >bodies. So monads refer to objects in the (already) created world, >whose identities persist, while ideas and numbers are not >created objects. > >While numbers and ideas cannot be monads, they have to >be are entities in the mind, feelings, and bodily aspects >of monads. For Leibniz refers to the "intellect" of human >monads. And similarly, numbers and ideas must be used >in the "fictional" construction of matter-- in the bodily >aspect of material monads, as well as the construction >of our bodies and brains. Dear Roger, Bruno's idea is a form of "Pre-Established Hamony", in that the "truth" of the numbers is a pre-established ontological primitive. -- Onward! -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Numbers and other inhabitants of Platonia are also inhabitants ofmonads
Hi Stephen P. King Good idea, but unfortunately monads are not numbers, numbers will now guide them or replace them. Monads have to be associated with corporeal bodies down here in contingia, where crap happens. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/1/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-30, 14:22:03 Subject: Re: Numbers and other inhabitants of Platonia are also inhabitants ofmonads On 9/30/2012 8:34 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Bruno Marchal > > I'm still trying to figure out how numbers and ideas fit > into Leibniz's metaphysics. Little is written about this issue, > so I have to rely on what Leibniz says otherwise about monads. > > > Previously I noted that numbers could not be monads because > monads constantly change. Another argument against numbers > being monads is that all monads must be attached to corporeal > bodies. So monads refer to objects in the (already) created world, > whose identities persist, while ideas and numbers are not > created objects. > > While numbers and ideas cannot be monads, they have to > be are entities in the mind, feelings, and bodily aspects > of monads. For Leibniz refers to the "intellect" of human > monads. And similarly, numbers and ideas must be used > in the "fictional" construction of matter-- in the bodily > aspect of material monads, as well as the construction > of our bodies and brains. Dear Roger, Bruno's idea is a form of "Pre-Established Hamony", in that the "truth" of the numbers is a pre-established ontological primitive. -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
