Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy "Tentative meaning" would be more suitable than the word "opinion." [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/9/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-08, 11:07:17 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. Hi Roger, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy ? Better data connected to opinion than opinion alone. ? How is opinion not connected to data? Have you found a way of neatly separating the information and data from opinion and beliefs? If you have, please share and if not:? this is straw man, that can't even stand on its pole. I've spent days in Sheldrake land and Sheldrake has spent days in McKenna land; it seems to become more and more clear why you post 10 videos and can't complete watching 1 other video from the same Channel you posted, with McKenna that Sheldrake has produced numerous talks with, before things become "distasteful" in your words. Sheldrake had miserable taste then too, according to your reasoning... Why would you listen to some guy that takes that "distasteful drug advocate" seriously? PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.
Hi Roger, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy > > Better data connected to opinion than opinion alone. > > How is opinion not connected to data? Have you found a way of neatly separating the information and data from opinion and beliefs? If you have, please share and if not: this is straw man, that can't even stand on its pole. I've spent days in Sheldrake land and Sheldrake has spent days in McKenna land; it seems to become more and more clear why you post 10 videos and can't complete watching 1 other video from the same Channel you posted, with McKenna that Sheldrake has produced numerous talks with, before things become "distasteful" in your words. Sheldrake had miserable taste then too, according to your reasoning... Why would you listen to some guy that takes that "distasteful drug advocate" seriously? PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy Better data connected to opinion than opinion alone. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/7/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-07, 08:33:45 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy ? You're allowed to have that opinion, or any opinion. ? We're different. I am a retired laboratory scientist and a pragmatist to boot. ?o to me, data trumnps everything. So I will believe that the moon is made of green cheese if there's data to suppport that. ? ? Not to me, I'll give you that. Data is as important as who is delivering the data and how it was collected, as data is hardly separable from belief about data. And you wouldn't believe the moon is made of green cheese, because you'd probably not like the data's taste and stop reading/listening in under an hour, well before the conclusion of the talk or paper, as you show above with McKenna, when you throw out ten videos for everyone to see, but will not be able to finish just one, posted by the same youtube uploader you chose, that somebody in this thread puts up, clicking on your links. This paints a picture, I do not have to elaborate. "Drugs" and their promotion, entirely misses McKenna's narrative focus as the semantics with which you use the term, do not apply to what he's talking about. "Drugs" in your usage do not exist, implying some definite ethical line between "permissible and non-permissible pleasures", which is about as far removed from McKenna's speculations as you can get. It's seems not surprising that you don't listen to a talk, when you post ten. PGC ? ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.