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From: Brent Meeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Platonism vs Realism WAS: ROADMAP (well, not yet really... Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:26:10 -0700 1Z wrote: > > Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >>I've never really understood why computationalists insist that a system >>must be able to handle counterfactuals in order for consciousness to occur, > > > I've explained that several times: computer programmes contain > if-then statements. > > >>other than that otherwise any physical system could be seen as implementing >>any computation, which does not seem to me a good reason. In any case, >>Maudlin shows that the requirement for handling counterfactuals leads to >>a situation where of two systems with identical physical activity, one is >>conscious and the other not. > > > If two systems differ counterfactually, they are not physically > identical. I don't think I understand this either. Computer programs contain if-then statements which branch the process depending on the data input to the program. But there is no real distinction between data an program. So if you insist that computed intelligence or consciousness depends on counterfactuals in the program that seems to me to be the same as insisting that the computation is implemented in some way that divides it from input data, i.e. it is in an environment. I'm sympathetic to this view. I think intelligence is relative to an environment. But I'm not sure what computationalists think of this; I believe they suppose the environment can be simulated too and so then the whole thing is a closed system and there are no conuterfactual branchings. Brent Meeker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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"New Agers"? Few of us on this list believe in stuff like ESP, the only exceptions I know of are rmiller and Stephen Paul King. Most of us believe in a completely reductionist view of how the brain produces intelligent behavior (ie we think a sufficiently detailed simulation of a brain would behave just as intelligently as the original), even if some think there is a mystery about the first-person aspects of consciousness. The main purpose of the list is to discuss the idea that all logically possible universes (or observer-moments) exist--is that a standard New Age belief? Anyway, if you want to unsubscribe, you must send an email with the subject "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesse --- Begin Message --- I hope you all have fun languishing in the hell that is pseudo-science and superstition. P.S. Where's the math, you superstitious new-agers? --- End Message ---
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Le 24-juin-05, à 14:47, A. Maxwell a écrit : Where's the math?, Here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521483255/104-6734233 -3264737?v=glance Look Maxwell, in the list nobody pretends to know the truth, and we are just making *arguments*. But if you like math, see my url which translate some of our arguments in arithmetic. The basic math is detailed in the book above. An excellent introduction to such math (which does not look serious but *is* serious) is here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0192821962/104-6734233 -3264737?v=glance Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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Le Vendredi 24 Juin 2005 14:47, A. Maxwell a écrit : > I hope you all have fun languishing in the hell that is pseudo-science and > superstition. > P.S. Where's the math, you superstitious new-agers? If you don't like discussing philosophy/metaphysic, please don't feel obligated to insult people of this list. Do you have 2 years old ? Quentin
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I hope you all have fun languishing in the hell that is pseudo-science and superstition. P.S. Where's the math, you superstitious new-agers?
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Dear moderator, The emails are certainly interesting, but I could not cope with the number of submissions. May I please unsubscribe from the everything-list group? Thank you very much. --- Jesse Mazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eugen Leitl wrote: > >David Barrett-Lennard wrote: > > > Here is a justification of why I think > arithmetical realism is at least > > > very plausible... > > > >I'm all ears. > > > > > Let's suppose that a computer simulation can (in > principle) exhibit > > > awareness. I don't know whether you dispute > this hypothesis, but let's > > > assume it and see where it leads. > > > >With you so far. We already have simulated critters > with behaviour, and > >awareness of their environment. Computational > neuroscience even attempts to > >do it with a high degree of biological realism. > > > > > Let's suppose in fact that you Eugin, were able > to watch a computer > > > simulation run, and on the screen you could see > "people" laughing, > > > talking - perhaps even discussing ideas like > whether *their* physical > > > existence needs to be postulated, or else they > are merely part of a > > > platonic multiverse. A simulated person may > stamp his fist on a > > > simulated coffee table and say "Surely this > coffee table is real - how > > > could it possibly be numbers - I've never heard > of anything so > > > >That wouldn't be abstract "numbers". You'd have a > system with a state, > >evolving > >along a trajectory. In your case, that system state > is being rendered (in > >realtime, I presume) for external observers. > > ...but suppose we implement the same abstract > program on several computers > of totally different construction, like a regular > computer using electronic > impulses vs. a quantum computer or a gigantic > babbage machine that uses only > rotating gears. For the critters inside the > simulation, wouldn't all these > cases appear subjectively identical to them? If so, > it seems the only common > denominator is that all the computers were doing the > same abstract > computation, the physical details are apparently > irrelevant in determining > the experience of the simulated beings. Doesn't this > lend intuitive support > to the Platonic view that our own physical universe > is itself just a > particular abstract computation? Isn't your own > belief that there is > something more to our own universe, something more > "physical" I guess, > nothing more than faith in a certain metaphysical > view of reality, with no > more evidence (and considerably less parsimony, IMO) > to justify it than the > Platonic view? > > Jesse Mazer > > _ > Scope out the new MSN Plus Internet Software > optimizes dial-up to the max! > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/plus&ST=1 > n.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/plus&ST=1 > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
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