Re: [Evolution] Sync or share....do multiple instances work?
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 15:39, Joshua Rochester wrote: > Whoops...forgot to send to the list :) Hi Zed. nevermind :) i've bounced this back to the list. > On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 11:08 PM, Joshua Rochester wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2002, at 05:47 AM, Not Zed wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 05:09, Joshua Rochester wrote: > I'm looking to run Evolution on multiple systems simultaneously, > and I > want to make sure what I'm doing won't corrupt the databases for > contacts, tasks, and calendars. Do any (all) of these configurations > work without conflict? > >> > >> In short - no. > >> > >> Of course, if you're contacts are in an ldap backend, etc etc things > >> like that work. But even stuff like imap doesn't support multiple > >> clients (yet). > > > > I use UW-imapd with my mailboxes converted to mbx format (not plain ol > > mbox) and I am able to use multiple simultaneous clients and changes > > synchronize and there are no locking issues. Cyrus is also supposed to > > be able to do this. Or did I misunderstand the limitation you suggest? Well, evoluiton doesn't currently even work very well if you have multiple clients accessing the same mailbox with imap. Its a limitation with the imap code. Also, if you are using the same ~/evolution - well, it assumes it has total exclusive control of it, so you could end up with messed up summaries and cache, although your mail would still be intact since its server-stored. > >> Anyway i just tested it. Logged into the same box, with a different > >> display and re-ran evolution. All I got was another copy on the same > >> display as the first one. > > > > Confirmed. Re-running evolution just opens another window on the > > original display no matter which display the evolution task is run > > from. Probably needs some error checking to prevent user problems? I'm not sure if we can even do that, because the object activation is handled by the corba/middleware layer? > 3) Running a file synchronization utility on live data files to allow > disconnected clients to share the same profile? > >> > >> You could: > >> end up with stale data (e.g. config changed, not committed to disk) > >> end up with corrupt data (the file changes while you're reading it) > >> end up with good data, sometimes. > >> > >> You really just have to logout of one first and login to another one > >> for > >> this to work. > > > > Confirmed. Running unison I was able to sync configs...but it does not > > appear that data is written by the client until the entire evolution > > stack is terminated. Killev was necessary before sync (on both sides) > > in order to have data appear on the slave. Some of the data is written as it gets changed, but most of it is only read once. Although filters are read/written every time, so they're one of the few things that this would work with. > > Two new thoughts: > > 1) Browsing through the list archives I noticed that some people use > > their Palm devices to synch between installs. Perhaps there is a way to > > use the gpilot conduit to a dummy palm (a file or set of files) to > > provide a sync method (I'm mostly talking about > > calendar/tasks/contacts, since IMAP handles the mail)? I can't tell > > from the limited gpilot documentation on the gnome site. Hmmm, I guess that may be possible. Although it does sound like a lot of work. > > 2) Again inspired by the Palm sync mechanismclearly there is a way > > to disconnect and reconnect to the data store. Perhaps some CLI > > utilities could be generated that send the disconnect/reconnect signals > > so that file synchronization could be performed? It wouldn't be like > > operating in real-time sync, but a frequent cron job might just be > > 'good enough'. Yeah that might be an idea. Or a way to shutdown the other instance if it is running on the wrong display. Again, i'm not really sure on this (i'm just a lowly c hacker, i've avoided the corba stuff), as i think its handled by the middleware layer, but I guess it must be ... even if you just send it a 'file->quit' menu option via bonobo or something and wait for it to exit (or something equally 'hacky'). There has to be somethign better than just running 'oaf-slay' though. Maybe someone on the list has an idea ... ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Broken Pipe?
BTW I think this patch got reverted in the 1.0.6 release. For 1.1.0 you need to upgrade gtkhtml which i think you need to de-install first to work cleanly (although maybe that is just the dev packages?). You also need to upgrade gal, but i think that can install in parallel (?). On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:17, Ray wrote: > Great! > > I'll upgrade to a newer version. I found the 1.1.0 rpm for evolution. > Can I just use gnorpm and install the newer version over the current > installation? Or do I need to uninstall this version first? > > Thanks for your help (and patience) I have just switched from MS after > BSOD after BSOD and email/browser vulnerabilities up the wazzu. > > Ray > > > On 04 Jun 2002 16:30:16 -0400 > "Jeffrey Stedfast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is one of the things that got fixed in the 1.0.6 release. The > > problem was that UW imapd can only handle command-lines of 8k or less > > and you were modifying a large group of messages and/or the UIDVALIDITY > > value changed and we tried to fetch the uids of the messages which > > needed a command-line of >8k. > > > > Jeff > > > > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 14:30, Ray wrote: > > > I'm using Evolution 1.0.3 on Red Hat 7.3 to connect to three ipam accounts on my >mail server that is running UW-imap. > > > > > > I have Evolution set to check for email every 10-minutes and every 10-minutes >get this error: Wrror while 'Scanning folders in "IMAP server Obtanium"': Broken Pipe > > > > > > > > > Any ideas on this? > > > > > > ___ > > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > -- > > Jeffrey Stedfast > > Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com > > > > ___ > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Sorting in Settings
If you go to Settings->Summary->Weather, you'll notice that for some reason the second level (if you expand the country) is reverse sorted (example, for US: Wyoming is first, and Alabama is last). The same is also true for the third level. TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Sorting in Settings
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 08:43, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: > If you go to Settings->Summary->Weather, you'll notice that for some > reason the second level (if you expand the country) is reverse sorted > (example, for US: Wyoming is first, and Alabama is last). The same is > also true for the third level. I had filed this this morning: http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=25953 Ross -- Ross Burton Software Engineer OneEighty Software Ltd Tel: +44 20 8680 8712 Cygnet HouseFax: +44 20 8680 8453 12-14 Sydenham Road [EMAIL PROTECTED] Croydon, Surrey CR9 2ET, UK http://www.180sw.com./ Under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Act 2000 together with any and all Regulations in force pursuant to the Act OneEighty Software Ltd reserves the right to monitor any or all incoming or outgoing communications as provided for under the Act ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Error Message
I am getting the following error when trying to recieve e-mail in Evolution. My version is 1.0.2 The error is attached as snapshot4.png Thanks for your assistance, Donald Stuart snapshot4.png Description: PNG image
Re: [Evolution] Message priority - a recap
On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 00:46, Lonnie Borntreger wrote: > Hum. Just rechecked and I have to correct myself. Outlook2k DOES > send "Importance:" (using the RFC text values no less). That is the only > other mailer I tested that uses that header. The only other header that > is common across most mailers is X-Priority. > > So, just doing Importance WILL make you compatible with Outlook2k (I did > not test Outlook98, but could fire up VMware and test it if you would > like. > > Maybe a feature request for Mozilla/Netscape(6,7) and Kmail to use > Importance: is in order??? > > I'll have one of my friends that uses AOL send me a high priority > message so I can see the headers for that, if you are interested. A little more information for Evolution developers. Just received an email from someone with the Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 client. It sets the following headers: X-Priority: 1 Priority: Urgent Importance: high So, using "Importance:" will make you Outlook2k and Exchange compatible. Had a friend try to send an urgent/priority message from AOL. He said he couldn't find a way to mark it high priority. TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Broken Pipe?
and don't forget that you need to install soup too (0.6 or 0.7 will work) Jeff On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 13:17, Not Zed wrote: > BTW I think this patch got reverted in the 1.0.6 release. > > For 1.1.0 you need to upgrade gtkhtml which i think you need to > de-install first to work cleanly (although maybe that is just the dev > packages?). You also need to upgrade gal, but i think that can install > in parallel (?). > > On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:17, Ray wrote: > > Great! > > > > I'll upgrade to a newer version. I found the 1.1.0 rpm for evolution. > > Can I just use gnorpm and install the newer version over the current > > installation? Or do I need to uninstall this version first? > > > > Thanks for your help (and patience) I have just switched from MS after > > BSOD after BSOD and email/browser vulnerabilities up the wazzu. > > > > Ray > > > > > > On 04 Jun 2002 16:30:16 -0400 > > "Jeffrey Stedfast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This is one of the things that got fixed in the 1.0.6 release. The > > > problem was that UW imapd can only handle command-lines of 8k or less > > > and you were modifying a large group of messages and/or the UIDVALIDITY > > > value changed and we tried to fetch the uids of the messages which > > > needed a command-line of >8k. > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 14:30, Ray wrote: > > > > I'm using Evolution 1.0.3 on Red Hat 7.3 to connect to three ipam accounts on >my mail server that is running UW-imap. > > > > > > > > I have Evolution set to check for email every 10-minutes and every 10-minutes >get this error: Wrror while 'Scanning folders in "IMAP server Obtanium"': Broken Pipe > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas on this? > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > -- > > > Jeffrey Stedfast > > > Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com > > > > > > > ___ > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > ___ > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Jeffrey Stedfast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ximian, Inc. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] "Default character Encoding" doesn't effect messageheader
On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:08, Not Zed wrote: > How important is this to Japanese users? i.e. is it common for their > email clients not to support utf8? Does it make Japanese-language > evolution-generated emails unreadable to almost everyone it might be > sent to? etc etc. Well, one thing to note is that only Emacs 21.1 or newer supports utf-8 (and XEmacs doesn't at all, AFAIK); that means that all the Emacs-based mail clients (e.g Gnus, VM, Wanderlust, SEMI, Mew) won't support it unless they're running on a new enough version of GNU Emacs. Given that some of those (like Wanderlust) seem to be popular, and also seem to have a mostly Japanese-only audience, I suspect there are a fair number of Japanese users of GNU/Linux and Unix for whom utf-8 isn't usable. I mention this because I notice Kenn is using Mew (an Emacs-based mail client) on Emacs 20.7. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] building from cvs
On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 08:13, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > evolution looks for those libraries via gnome-config. So, gal and > gtkhtml install a galConf.sh/gtkhtmlConf.sh files in $(libdir). So, > either install gal and gtkhtml in the same prefix as the rest of gnome > (that is, where gnome-config is, usually /usr/bin, means you'll install > them into /usr), That makes me nervous, since a lot of GNOME depends on gal and gtkhtml, and at least gal isn't guaranteed to be backwards-compatible. > or do what I do which is: > > install gal/gtkhtml into /opt/gnome > link /usr/lib/galConf.sh -> /opt/gnome/lib/galConf.sh (the same for > gtkhtmlConf.sh) > install evolution into /opt/gnome Interesting. Could I just change the /usr/lib/galConf.sh link for when I'm compiling evolution? In other words, is the /usr/lib/galConf.sh script consulted at runtime at all? I don't want to break my existing installation of GNOME 1.4 and Evolution 1.0.5 (i'm using all of GNOME from the Debian packages, except for evolution itself where I added my Evolution patches in). I suppose just remembering to switch the conf script links for gal and gtkhtml when I'm compiling Evolution wouldn't be too bad; however, I was hoping to find a solution which used something like GNOME_PATH so that I could just compile gal and gtkhtml from CVS, stick them in /build/evolution, and have evolution use the rest of the GNOME libraries installed in /usr. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] building from cvs
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 20:02, Colin Walters wrote: > > or do what I do which is: > > > > install gal/gtkhtml into /opt/gnome > > link /usr/lib/galConf.sh -> /opt/gnome/lib/galConf.sh (the same for > > gtkhtmlConf.sh) > > install evolution into /opt/gnome > > Interesting. Could I just change the /usr/lib/galConf.sh link for when > I'm compiling evolution? In other words, is the /usr/lib/galConf.sh > script consulted at runtime at all? I don't want to break my existing > installation of GNOME 1.4 and Evolution 1.0.5 (i'm using all of GNOME > from the Debian packages, except for evolution itself where I added my > Evolution patches in). > gnome-config is only called at autogen.sh/configure time, AFAIK. So, yes, it's safe to only have the link while compiling. anyway, just don't install libgal-dev, if you're on debian. I've had several libgal* installed, with no problems. Now: ii libgal19 0.19.2-2 G App Libs (run time library) ii libgal2-0 0.0.3-2G App Libs for GNOME2 (run time library) ii libgal2-0-data 0.0.3-2G App Libs for GNOME2 (data files) ii libgal2-0-dev 0.0.3-2G App Libs for GNOME2 (development files) and this is a freshly-installed system, with almost GNOME2-only apps/libs. In my previous system, I had more libgal*, and everything worked fine, since the packages that use other versions of libgal, do link correctly with the libgal.so.x.x.x file. and all this with gal CVS installed in /opt/gnome cheers -- Rodrigo Moya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Error Message
Try upgrading. Some bugs similar to this were fixed post 1.0.2, although i'm not sure if it covers this one. If you still have problems (you might need to reset (rm) the mbox.ev-summary file in the mailbox), mail again and we can investigate. On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 22:42, Donald Stuart wrote: > I am getting the following error when trying to recieve e-mail in Evolution. > My version is 1.0.2 > > The error is attached as snapshot4.png > > Thanks for your assistance, > > > Donald Stuart ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
