[Evolution] FRQ: spam-complaint

2002-07-10 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder

Yoho!

[meta] proposal to tag feature requests on this mailing list with FRQ
(ok, will never work. forget it)

I'd really wish a 'write spam complaint' function. It would
 - be reachable by some keyb combination
 - do whois and dns lookups to find out abuse addresses from the
Reveived: headers
 - compose an e-mail based on
. a user defined complaint body
. a notice how the abuse addresses were obtained
. the spam mail itself (inline, as many companies don't accept
  MIME attachments :-(

Any chance seeing this?

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Re: [Evolution] Spam Filter

2002-07-10 Thread Dirk Husemann

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 21:06, Peter Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 14:33, Patrick J. Doland wrote:
  Howdy-
  
  Does anyone have an relatively effective set of filter rules to reduce
  spam with Evolution? 
 
 The fad with the kids is to use SpamAssassin, it's supposed to be very
 effective. You can't really hook it up into Evolution unless you're
 using 1.1 and feeling a bit adventurous, but if that's not a problem,
 I'd recommend it (though not having used it myself.)

I use it, I love it. Not that difficult to install really: Follow the
instructions and, assuming you are using procmail for mailbox delivery,
use the following procmail recipe:


# SpamAssassin 
:0fw
| spamc

:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
${HOME}/evolution/local/SPAM/mbox/

I've created a SPAM mailbox in Evolution, changed it to maildir type.
That should do the trick.

cheers,
Dirk

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Re: [Evolution] Drag and drop a contact into a message

2002-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 14:41, Not Zed wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 02:35, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
  This is possible in the development version
 
 Though you have to drop it on the top of the message (the to box etc)
 rather than the text area.

Thanks for the tip. Note that this behavior might confuse former Outlook
users who drop the contact in the text area. But that's a minor
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Re: [Evolution] FRQ: spam-complaint

2002-07-10 Thread Not Zed

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 16:29, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
 Yoho!
 
 [meta] proposal to tag feature requests on this mailing list with FRQ
 (ok, will never work. forget it)
 
 I'd really wish a 'write spam complaint' function. It would
  - be reachable by some keyb combination
  - do whois and dns lookups to find out abuse addresses from the
 Reveived: headers
  - compose an e-mail based on
   . a user defined complaint body
   . a notice how the abuse addresses were obtained
   . the spam mail itself (inline, as many companies don't accept
 MIME attachments :-(
 
 Any chance seeing this?

Where would it send it?

I think there's alreayd a feature request for this in the bug system
(http://bugzilla.ximian.com/) anyway.

Personally I can't see it getting done till we have some extensibility
mechanism available.



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Re: [Evolution] smtp server settings

2002-07-10 Thread Eric Baplue

I'm sorry but it is not with old messages. When I create a new one, the
old smtp server is used, even when he don't appear in the mail settings
dialog.

BR

Eric,-

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 19:10, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 Edit ~/evolution/local/Outbox/mbox and remove all X-Evolution-Transport
 headers.
 
 The settings get saved on the message when you first try to send the
 message, and so changing account info later will not work.
 
 Jeff
 
 On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 12:11, Eric Baplue wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I'm using evolution for a few months at home and now I have put a second
  mail account in it (for my job). To send from my job I have to use a
  different smtp server and so I put it in the account Editor Sending mail
  options.
  
  I have now 2 accounts with a different smtp server.
  
  When I select my second account as default he still use the smtp server
  from the first account.
  
  For testing I changed the smtp server from my first account to the new
  smtp server and yes, ... or no he still use the smtp server from my
  privat account, but I can't find him any more in any dialog screen. I
  have restart my system several times, tryed everything but he evolution
  still use the smtp server that is no longer in the mail settings.
  
  Where does evolution writes his settings?
  
  BR
  
  Eric,-
  
  
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Re: [Evolution] smtp server settings

2002-07-10 Thread Not Zed

Are you saying the smtp server isn't avaialbe on the mail settings
screen for that account, under 'receiving options'?

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 17:55, Eric Baplue wrote:
 I'm sorry but it is not with old messages. When I create a new one, the
 old smtp server is used, even when he don't appear in the mail settings
 dialog.
 
 BR
 
 Eric,-
 
 On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 19:10, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
  Edit ~/evolution/local/Outbox/mbox and remove all X-Evolution-Transport
  headers.
  
  The settings get saved on the message when you first try to send the
  message, and so changing account info later will not work.
  
  Jeff
  
  On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 12:11, Eric Baplue wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I'm using evolution for a few months at home and now I have put a second
   mail account in it (for my job). To send from my job I have to use a
   different smtp server and so I put it in the account Editor Sending mail
   options.
   
   I have now 2 accounts with a different smtp server.
   
   When I select my second account as default he still use the smtp server
   from the first account.
   
   For testing I changed the smtp server from my first account to the new
   smtp server and yes, ... or no he still use the smtp server from my
   privat account, but I can't find him any more in any dialog screen. I
   have restart my system several times, tryed everything but he evolution
   still use the smtp server that is no longer in the mail settings.
   
   Where does evolution writes his settings?
   
   BR
   
   Eric,-
   
   
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Re: [Evolution] FRQ: spam-complaint

2002-07-10 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder

[sorry NZ - of course I meant this to go here... how embarassing]

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 18:56, Not Zed wrote:

[spam auto-complainer]

 Where would it send it?

I usually do
 - reverse lookup of mailserver IP of the mailserver that sent the mail
to my mailserver. (Usually the first Received: header.)
 - whois lookup of the same IP - sometimes the whois database contains
abuse contacts.
 - submit the IP of open relays to ordb. Probably this would need some
special arrangement if suddenly all evo users would mass-submit hosts.

I usually don't follow the Received: chain. Of course, with forwarded
mail and mailing lists it gets more complicated. Probably too
complicated to be done automatically. A 'look for List-ID header and
fail with informative message' function would probably be necessary to
protect list admins from over-eager spam-reporters. (Or, of course, a
very cool algorithm that follows the Received: chain and determines
which were forwarding hops from mailing lists/aliases and which was the
spammer's machine or the open relay.

 
 I think there's alreayd a feature request for this in the bug system
 (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/) anyway.

23110

Sorry - I hate the bugzilla ui, so I avoid it whenever I can.

 Personally I can't see it getting done till we have some extensibility
 mechanism available.

The mechanism described there sounds fine enough. Toolbar and keyb
shortcuts would neet to be configurable, then. (really user
configurable. Not 'change that file and be aware that it will be
overwritten/may break your system/may drink your beer' configurable)

cheers
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Re: [Evolution] Spam Filter

2002-07-10 Thread John Harlow

I've built a pretty thorough set of spam filters using the evolution
filters. On average, 2 pieces of spam get thru a day. My spam folder
gets about 400 pieces a day.

My filters are organized such that my list subscriptions are sorted into
the appropriate mailboxes, followed by mail from select friends and
family which goes into a mailbox, followed by mail from select domains
that I want mail from. Then my porn and spam filters take over and if it
meets their criteria, it goes into a spam folder. Very little that
shouldn't make it thru does. Once in a while a genuine email goes in
there (about once a day) so I peruse it periodically.

John


On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 21:24, Jim Meyer wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 12:06, Peter Williams wrote:
  On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 14:33, Patrick J. Doland wrote:
   Howdy-
   
   Does anyone have an relatively effective set of filter rules to reduce
   spam with Evolution? 
  
  The fad with the kids is to use SpamAssassin, it's supposed to be very
  effective. You can't really hook it up into Evolution unless you're
  using 1.1 and feeling a bit adventurous, but if that's not a problem,
  I'd recommend it (though not having used it myself.)
 
 To extend that answer a bit:
 
 I run fetchmail to get my email from various and sundry places to my
 local box; I have a ~/.procmailrc to engage SpamAssassin in checking
 each mail as fetchmail gets it. I have those marked as spam into a Spam
 mbox; I comb it thru once every day or so for titles or senders which
 may have been false positives.
 
 It's a happy thing.
 
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[Evolution] Gtk2/Gnome2

2002-07-10 Thread Michael Rothwell


This has probably been asked before, but I don't know the answer, and
have not found it elsewhere... so here goes:

What's the timeframe for porting Evolution to Gtk2/Gnome2? I'm not
trying to rush anyone... just asking! :)

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Re: [Evolution] FRQ: spam-complaint

2002-07-10 Thread Emmanuel Tychon


There is a plugin in outlook that allows you to report spam directly to
www.spamcop.net. Those guys are doing an excellent job at contacting
service providers and eMail owners, for free.

In outlook, when you receive a spam, click on 'Submit to SpamCop' and
that's it. The email is sent to your spamcop account, and is reported
accordingly to the interested parties.

Easy, simple, efficient. 

In a general sense, a plugin mechanism would allow this without change
evolution's own code. Pretty much like in Mozilla, we don't need that
much complexity here.

E.

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 08:59, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
 Yoho!
 
 [meta] proposal to tag feature requests on this mailing list with FRQ
 (ok, will never work. forget it)
 
 I'd really wish a 'write spam complaint' function. It would
  - be reachable by some keyb combination
  - do whois and dns lookups to find out abuse addresses from the
 Reveived: headers
  - compose an e-mail based on
   . a user defined complaint body
   . a notice how the abuse addresses were obtained
   . the spam mail itself (inline, as many companies don't accept
 MIME attachments :-(
 
 Any chance seeing this?
 
 cheers
 -- vbi
 
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Re: [Evolution] FRQ: spam-complaint

2002-07-10 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 15:02, Emmanuel Tychon wrote:
 
 There is a plugin in outlook that allows you to report spam directly to
 www.spamcop.net. Those guys are doing an excellent job at contacting
 service providers and eMail owners, for free.

Except that spamcop is ignored by many, many providers. That's why I
camoe up with my frq at all: I stopped using spamcop lately, and that's
why I wanted the spamcomplaint template to be absolutely user definable
(with - I thought - the mail coming up for editing before it is sent).

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[Evolution] Inline OpenPGP support

2002-07-10 Thread Daniel Rees

I have recently set up Evolution 1.0.5 to use GPG, however when I
receive messages that have been digitally signed using inline PGP,
Evolution reports the signature as bad.

On the gnupg-users mailing list I was told that this was because
Evolution doesn't support inline OpenPGP properly - is there a way
around this?

NB. Apoligies if this has already been received, but after sending this
message the first time it didn't appear on the list.

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[Evolution] gnupg

2002-07-10 Thread Marcus Franke

Hello,

I have a little Problem with Evolution and gnupg signed
messages.. Or, better to say, some lost souls using
Microsoft Outlook have problems with my signed mails.

Evolutions sends signed mails as multipart mails, while
Evolution can handle this and shows the lock symbol and
no other attachments Outlook shows the signature as one
attachment. 

Some of my friends now complain now about this and ask
me to send unsigned messages, which I do not want..

So, could I configure Evolution to send the signed
message as full inline text??

Or is there a RFC concerning mail that demands this
multipart behaviour? I looked around but did not find
an option to change from multipart to inline..

I use Evolution 1.0.2 with SuSE 8.0 and gnupg 1.0.6.

This leads to a second question:

I have seen that there is a rpm file with version 1.0.8
of evolution on the ximinan ftp server compiled for
the SuSE 8.0, but how do I update the package?

Just download the file and do rpm -Uhv? Or do I need to
uninstall the Evolution-1.0.2-SuSE before installing
Evolution-1.0.8-Ximian??

Bye,
Marcus

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Re: [Evolution] 1.0.8 on SuSE [was: gnupg]

2002-07-10 Thread James Ogley

A better option might be to get the package from www.usr-local-bin.org -
this is built to match the SuSE specs.

First get the SuSE GNOME updates from
ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME
Then get the Mozilla 1.0 build from ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/mozilla
Then get Evo, bonobo-conf, gal and gtkhtml (and gnome-spell if you want
spell checking) from www.usr-local-bin.org

 I have seen that there is a rpm file with version 1.0.8
 of evolution on the ximinan ftp server compiled for
 the SuSE 8.0, but how do I update the package?
 Just download the file and do rpm -Uhv? Or do I need to
 uninstall the Evolution-1.0.2-SuSE before installing
 Evolution-1.0.8-Ximian??
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Re: [Evolution] Spam Filter

2002-07-10 Thread Stefan Schustereit

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 20:33, Patrick J. Doland wrote: 

 Does anyone have an relatively effective set of filter rules to reduce
 spam with Evolution? 

This works perfectly for me: 

If recipients do not contain my mail address move to folder SPAM.
Stop processing

If you are subscribed to some mailing lists, you will find these
messages in the Spam folder, too. So you have to create another set of
filters for these lists.

Stefan



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[Evolution] task start time

2002-07-10 Thread Cengiz Alaettinoglu

It would be nice to be able to hide tasks whose start time is still in
the future...

Cengiz




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[Evolution] SSL support in Evolution Developer Snapshots (can support becompiled in?)

2002-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can SSL support be compiled into the Evolution Developer Snapshots, or
does anyone know when this will be available in the binary builds? (My
apologies if a better forum would be evolution-hackers.)

I really liked what I saw in the dev snapshots, but only have
IMAP-over-SSL available to me currently.

Thanks very much for your help.


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Re: [Evolution] Gtk2/Gnome2

2002-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

Not till after Evolution 1.2 gets released.

Jeff

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 08:57, Michael Rothwell wrote:
 This has probably been asked before, but I don't know the answer, and
 have not found it elsewhere... so here goes:
 
 What's the timeframe for porting Evolution to Gtk2/Gnome2? I'm not
 trying to rush anyone... just asking! :)
 
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Re: [Evolution] Inline OpenPGP support

2002-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

We don't support inline-pgp at all.

Jeff

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 09:20, Daniel Rees wrote:
 I have recently set up Evolution 1.0.5 to use GPG, however when I
 receive messages that have been digitally signed using inline PGP,
 Evolution reports the signature as bad.
 
 On the gnupg-users mailing list I was told that this was because
 Evolution doesn't support inline OpenPGP properly - is there a way
 around this?
 
 NB. Apoligies if this has already been received, but after sending this
 message the first time it didn't appear on the list.
 
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Re: [Evolution] FRQ: spam-complaint

2002-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

Probably not. anyways, this is already a bug report in the 'contrib'
section.

Jeff

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 02:59, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
 Yoho!
 
 [meta] proposal to tag feature requests on this mailing list with FRQ
 (ok, will never work. forget it)
 
 I'd really wish a 'write spam complaint' function. It would
  - be reachable by some keyb combination
  - do whois and dns lookups to find out abuse addresses from the
 Reveived: headers
  - compose an e-mail based on
   . a user defined complaint body
   . a notice how the abuse addresses were obtained
   . the spam mail itself (inline, as many companies don't accept
 MIME attachments :-(
 
 Any chance seeing this?
 
 cheers
 -- vbi
 
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Re: [Evolution] gnupg

2002-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 10:54, Marcus Franke wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a little Problem with Evolution and gnupg signed
 messages.. Or, better to say, some lost souls using
 Microsoft Outlook have problems with my signed mails.

this is a known issue, unfortunately

no idea when or if it will ever get fixed (ideally, Microsoft Outlook
would support the PGP/MIME standard but well, since Microsoft didn't
implement their own PGP support - rather NAi did and now that NAi is no
longer supporting PGP...you get the picture).

 
 Evolutions sends signed mails as multipart mails, while
 Evolution can handle this and shows the lock symbol and
 no other attachments Outlook shows the signature as one
 attachment. 
 
 Some of my friends now complain now about this and ask
 me to send unsigned messages, which I do not want..
 
 So, could I configure Evolution to send the signed
 message as full inline text??

nope.

 
 Or is there a RFC concerning mail that demands this
 multipart behaviour? I looked around but did not find
 an option to change from multipart to inline..

rfc3156

 
 I use Evolution 1.0.2 with SuSE 8.0 and gnupg 1.0.6.
 
 This leads to a second question:
 
 I have seen that there is a rpm file with version 1.0.8
 of evolution on the ximinan ftp server compiled for
 the SuSE 8.0, but how do I update the package?

You can use red-carpet or I suppose you could download it and any
dependencies using an ftp client and install them manually.

 
 Just download the file and do rpm -Uhv? Or do I need to
 uninstall the Evolution-1.0.2-SuSE before installing
 Evolution-1.0.8-Ximian??

You shouldn't need to uninstall the old evolution, but you might want to
update gtkhtml and gal too.

Jeff

 
 Bye,
 Marcus
 
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Re: [Evolution] Arbitrary (way to modify) 'From' when composing

2002-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is there a voting process or some other way to recommend this feature?

Thanks very much - Evolution is a great app. ;)

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 12:50, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 13:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm using the Evolution Snapshot 1.0.8.99 from red-carpet, and was
  curious if there was a way to arbitrarily change the 'From' line when
  composing a message?
 
 nope.
 
  
  Currently, I'm having to set up a new mail account of type 'None' (one
  per e-mail alias) and then select a predefined 'From' when composing a
  new message.
 
 This is the way it was meant to be done.
 
 Jeff
 
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