Re: [Evolution] Is virus protection required?

2003-01-14 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 10:17, Dave Finnegan wrote:
 Does Evolution suffer from this sort of virus?
 
 Should I be concerned that I could be receiving viruses now via my Linux
 Evolution mail reader?

Evolution does not support scripting, and I think (and hope) it is the
policy of the Evolution hackers never to do so.

It is, however, always a possibility to exploit buffer overflows in the
Evolution to execute arbitrary code as the user running it.  This class
of attack is hardly unique to Evolution, although one could probably
argue that since Evolution is much more complex than, say, mutt, it's
more susceptible to attack this way.

But let's be realistic.  Any client that accepts data off the net is
potentially vulnerable, so you should be more no concerned about
Evolution than you would be by running Mozilla, or even xmms, as
described here:
http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/306476/2003-01-11/2003-01-17/0

(I'm not sure the above posting isn't a hoax, but in theory it's
possible.  Extremely complicated, but possible.)

Basically, if you're extremely nervous, build a kernel with a
non-executable user stack (openwall patch), and build Evolution,
Mozilla, etc. with Stackguard if you're extra paranoid.  You could also
sandbox Evolution.

But honestly, nobody is that paranoid.  Right? :)

Jason.

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Re: [Evolution] Wishlist: Forwarding Message Source

2003-01-13 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 16:09, Bill Hartwell wrote:
 A feature that would be very nice is the ability to forward a message's
 unaltered source, including the full headers. Since the message source

Forward as attachment, which I believe is default behaviour.  This is
more technically sound than forwarding inline with full headers. 
Doesn't SpamCop handle emails as MIME attachments?  (I don't know much
about SmamCop, but I'd think it should.)

Cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] Data Sync

2003-01-13 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 07:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i am using evolution with my notebook and my homepc. I want to sync the
 dates, mails,etc. between them. I have no exchange server in my lan. Is
 there a way to do this ?

I've been using unison to synchronize 3 systems for several months with
no problems.  I explained in this list some months ago how I set it up:

http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2002-October/022398.html

Hope that helps.

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[Evolution] Problem subscribing to shared IMAP folders

2003-01-10 Thread Jason Tackaberry
Using Courier IMAP 1.6.2 and Evolution 1.2.1.  I created a shared IMAP
folder and am able to subscribe and access it properly with Mozilla. 
The folder in question is: shared.its.test.  The subscribe dialog in
Evolution does not by default show the shared tree; it only shows what's
under INBOX.  Evolution is set to use the default namespace provided by
the server.

If I select the display option Folders whose names begin with and type
shared., then it shows the shared branch.  If I expand that, it shows
its, but that is not an expandable branch -- in other words, there is
no 'test' subfolder from that as there should be.  I cannot subscribe to
'its' -- clicking the Subscribe button does nothing.

The weird thing is that this _was_ working earlier today.  After I
subscribed to the folder with Mozilla, evolution picked it up okay.  But
suddenly it stopped working, and now I can't even see the subfolder
'test' at all in the subscriptions dialog.  It continues to work fine
with Mozilla mail.

Any advice?  I just started experimenting with shared folders, so I'm
open to the possibility that I've done something wrong, which is why I'm
asking here before filing a bug.  So far I've been fairly unimpressed by
the lack of support for shared folders in most mail clients.  Evolution
at least has Post a message and Post a reply options a la Outlook,
but Netscape 4 and Mozilla mail remain anemic in this area.

Thanks for any help,
Jason.

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Re: [Evolution] Problem subscribing to shared IMAP folders

2003-01-10 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 20:04, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 We do not currently support multiple namespaces.

Guess that explains it (except for the part where it was sort of working
for a little while.)  Is this feature targeted for any specific future
version?

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Re: [Evolution] Problem subscribing to shared IMAP folders

2003-01-10 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 20:04, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 We do not currently support multiple namespaces.

Oddly enough, if I override the server-supplied namespace and leave the
field blank, things appear to work correctly.  I can see both INBOX. and
shared. namespaces.

I guess I can expect odd behaviours since it's not officially
supported.  But still, at least it's something.

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Re: [Evolution] Howto sync two workstatios?

2002-10-23 Thread Jason Tackaberry
Hi Guido,

On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 05:56, Guido de Melo wrote:
 I have installed Evolution at work and at home on two (nearly) identical 
 linux boxes. Now I'd like to have the same data at work that I have at 
 home. When I copy my ~/evolution directory from one machine to the 
 other, Evolution however seems not to be interested in the newer files. 
 It jsut keeps working on the old data. How can I overcome this?

I too am plagued with this problem, except I have three workstations I
want to sync Evo on (home desktop, laptop, workstation at the office). 
Here is the approach I have taken:

First, fetch Unison at http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/. 
(Unfortunately that website seems a bit unreliable; it's up and down at
times.)

I'm using one of the servers at work to act as a store for my Evolution
directory.  I setup passwordless ssh keys from all systems I want to
sync to this central store (unison needs this).  My unison default.prf
looks like this on all 3 of my workstations:

# Unison preferences file
# Roots of the synchronization
root = /home/tack
root = ssh://some.central.server.com//home/tack/

# Paths to synchronize
path = evolution
batch = true
auto = true
prefer = newer

I have created a simple script that wraps Evolution and calls unison
before and after:

killev
unison-gui default
evolution
killev
unison-gui default

One must killev before and after because otherwise, as you said,
Evolution (wombat in particular) won't notice the new files.  Also, of
course, it prevents things from getting out of sync.  If you prefer, you
can call the command line version of unison instead, but I like to see
what's going on since I invoke the script from a button on my panel. 
(You'll need the command line version on the server that acts as your
central repository.)

This seems to work reliably for me.  My calendar info, local contacts,
and email metadata (like labels and follow-up data) remains synced
between all 3 systems.  However, it's critically important that you exit
Evolution whenever you're done using it.  It also means you cannot have
two copies running at the same time.  So, I make sure I close evo at
home before I go to work, and vice versa.

It also happens that my mail configuration works fine no matter where I
am.  (The SMTP server at work supports TLS and AUTH so I can use it
anywhere.)  This may not be the case for you, and so you'd have to add
some extra steps to the wrapper script before running Evolution (and
after running unison) that modifies the necessary config files.  (A
little perl or sed magic would be fine.)

I'd _love_ a more integrated synchronization feature in Evolution.  But,
in the absence of any server support, this kludge seems to be working
okay.

Hope this helps,
Jason.

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Re: [Evolution] Problem with reply and other stuff (OT)

2002-10-23 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 20:16, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 For more details, see:
 http://www.globecom.net/ietf/draft/draft-bambenek-posting-guidelines-00.html

That's pretty interesting.  I didn't know such a document existed. :)  I
hardly ever post in summary reply form as the IETF draft suggests.  My
habit, developed from my BBS days, is to always quote inline (aka
point-by-point reply) even if (such as in this case) I'm only quoting
one thing.  The reason is to immediately establish context.  I don't
think, as the IETF doc suggests, this detracts from the emphasis of my
reply.

What are other people's feelings on this?

As for removing the signature from the QRT, I have sent a couple emails
where it was relevant to quote the person's signature.  Every other time
I remove it manually, though.  I guess it'd be more convenient to have
Evo strip the signature from the QRT, but I have mixed feelings that it
may be doing the wrong thing.

Jason.

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Re: [Evolution] outlook 2000 mail not threading.

2002-09-25 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 18:04, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
 How about a feature request o have evolution handle the broken outlook
 mails in a threaded view?  

See this thread: 

  
http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2002-September/021181.html

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[Evolution] Follow-up flags and labels in mail headers

2002-09-24 Thread Jason Tackaberry

Hi again,

It's nice to see the label and follow-up flag feature; they are quite
useful.  Unfortunately the data for those features seems to be stored
locally (can someone tell me where?) -- is there a reason why it
couldn't be stored in the mail header on the server if the store is
IMAP, say as X-Evolution-Label or X-Evolution-Followup fields?

Evolution has all these great features and I find that I just can't use
them because of the way I work.  (Separate installs at home, at work,
and on my laptop.) It's increasingly obvious that there needs to be some
framework to at least sync different copies of Evo.  Is anyone working
on something like this?  If not, I may have a go at it.

Thanks again,
Jason.

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Re: [Evolution] New messages in 1.1 snaps

2002-09-24 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 11:55, Richard Zach wrote:
 count was just a fluke (like it happens just after I delete two new
 messages and expunge), and after a Send/Receive it goes away. Soemtimes
 there actually is a new message, but I have to Send/Receive a few times
 and/or switch folders before Evo downloads them.

I have seen this with Evolution since the dawn of time.  I use Courier
IMAP (and have gone through several versions), but I'm not sure if the
problem is related to that.

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Re: [Evolution] Follow-up flags and labels in mail headers

2002-09-24 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 14:18, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:

 I wouldn't bother syncing summary files.

But the summary files is where the labels and follow-up flag stuff is
stored.  I quite like the idea of the follow-up feature, but if I don't
sync summary files I can't use it.

I have a habit of leaving Evolution running on all my systems, but this
obviously is no good.  I can wrap Evolution in a script that syncs
before and after loading, and just discipline myself to close Evo when
I'm done using it.  It sounds like this is the only way.

Cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] Follow-up flags and labels in mail headers

2002-09-24 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 14:43, Zot O'Connor wrote:
 It would be cool if this came up in a task list, or for me, an
 appointment.  I would love to file emails to dates.

I really hate to say me too, but damnit, ME TOO!  That's an awesome
idea.  In general, if I could associate any number of emails with tasks
and calendar appointments (and moving emails around in folders wouldn't
confuse it), that would be such a kick ass feature words could not
describe. :)  Being able to create a task or apointment from a follow-up
flag in an email is icing on the cake.

Jason.

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Re: [Evolution] Follow-up flags and labels in mail headers

2002-09-24 Thread Jason Tackaberry

Hi Dan,

On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 10:53, Dan Winship wrote:
  framework to at least sync different copies of Evo.  Is anyone working
  on something like this?  If not, I may have a go at it.
 
 Not that I know of.

Would it be possible to use something like rsync or unison for this
purpose?  I see that, at least for the summary file, data does not get
immediately written to disk if I update a flag, for instance, so I
assume Evo caches this and writes it out periodically.  Is there a way
to force Evolution to commit to disk what it needs to so I can automate
a periodic sync?

Also, what problems might I run into if it updates local files while
Evolution is still running?   I don't suppose there's some magic way to
make Evolution reread what's on disk? :)

This sounds like an awkward problem to solve.  Knowing Evolution as you
do, what approach would you take?

Best,
Jason.


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[Evolution] Remote Calendar store

2002-09-23 Thread Jason Tackaberry

I fired up the new beta of Evolution, and I was at first glance very
excited to see that you can change the default folder to be a remote
calendar.  My first thought was, Wow, did they somehow make it so you
can store calendar data in an IMAP store?  That's too cool.

Of course, this isn't the case.  But a thought occured to me: why not? 
If we don't want to create a specialized server for
contacts/tasks/calendaring, would it be possible to layer those things
on top of IMAP, so at least it would be possible to keep my 3 different
copies of Evo synchronized?  Is something like that feasible?

Of course, the real nice solution would be to create an Exchange-like
OSS backend that Evolution can integrate with, but that's much easier
said than done.

Jason.

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Re: [Evolution] LDAP Autocompletion/Addressbook Sources

2002-07-24 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 16:09, Sean M Alderman wrote:
 Greetings,
   I recently upgraded my desktop (via wipe and load) to RH 7.3.  Since
 then I have installed the latest greatest evolution and I'm still having
 trouble getting addresses to autocomplete against an ldap source.  I was

I hate to say me too, but me too.

Is Evolution even capable of auto-completing from LDAP sources?  LDAP
searches otherwise work fine, but I would love the ability for
auto-complete while typing in email addresses.

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Re: [Evolution] FRQ: Pipe incoming mail through AntiVirus tools

2002-07-11 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 04:28, Dan Hensley wrote:
   Virii is the plural of virus (I bet that was obvious :).  I know a
 lot of people use viruses, so it may be acceptable when talking about

I hate to start some kind of a war here, but virii is not a word. :)

The plural of virus is in fact viruses.  It's a very common
misconception that virii is its plural.  This page gives a very good
synopsis:

   http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html

Cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] editing spell checker dictionary

2001-12-14 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 11:07, Arren Mund wrote:
 is there anyway that i can remove a word from the dictionary?  say i
 added a word i didn't want in there, or i don't agree with one of the
 words. 

One way would be to edit ~/.aspell.english.pws (or similarly named file
depending on your locale).  There may be a GUI front-end for that, but I
don't know of one.

Cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] question around unsent mail

2001-12-11 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 12:32, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
 Is it possible to tell evolution to save unsent e-mails on closing or
 something similar, so that if the main app is closed before an e-mail

Just like I tell our Windows users here to save their documents every 5
minutes (no matter what app they're using), I save drafts of long emails
I am composing every couple of minutes or so as well for this very
reason.

Not to compare Evolution's stability to Windows' stability, but hey,
they both crash, and users have to deal with that.  I agree, though,
some auto crash-recovery feature would be nice.

Jason.

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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-03 Thread Jason Tackaberry

 the answer to Outlook in a Yeah, use Evolution.  It's cool.  Oh, but
 you have to pay for Exchange interoperability. way, and that no-one
 mentioned this before.  Feels almost like we have to start again, to
 find another way of arguing Linux is free.  You can do _this_ with it.
 to our bosses.  

I think the Exchange connector plug-in is a great idea, and I hope it
brings Ximian lots of money -- enough to justify continued development
of Evolution and their other cool stuff.  (In fact, I'd really be
interested if Ximian let us know in the future how successful the
product was.)  Of course, I probably only say that because I'm not an
Exchange user. :)

But I don't think we have to start again, as you say, if some day
Ximian creates a free alternative to Exchange Server that works with
Evolution.

Since we're on that topic, Ximian may be thinking about charging for
that server software.  If they do, I hope they keep in mind that people
like me have 3 systems (work system, home computer, and laptop) that I
like to keep synchronized, and I'd hate to have to fork over big bucks
server-side software I'm using personally.  Even better is if it will be
GPLed. :)

Cheers,
Jason.



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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 14:05, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
 * The default search type is Message contains but I find
   myself 99% of the time using Sender contains.  Is there a
   way to change the default?

To answer my own question, all I had to do was edit searches.xml and
rearrange the order so that Sender contains was first.  Simple enough!

Cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 14:59, Benjamin Kahn wrote:
   It sort of sounds like you want to turn on: Hide Deleted Messages
 which can be found in the View menu.

Yes indeed.  It's not quite the same, but as far as behaviour goes, it's
certainly good enough.

Thanks for the tip.

Regards,
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Re: [Evolution] Quoting email with long lines

2001-11-28 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 16:44, Thomas Duffy wrote:
 I like what pine does for this.  It will initially do this bad
 behavior for long lines, but if you Cntl-J (justify) it, then it does
 the good thing -- justifies it to 80 chars wide and inserts chevrons
 at the beginning of each line.

Or mutt, which when configured to use vim, is just 'gqap' :)

I'd love this feature, but apparently we'll have to wait until 1.2. 
Fair enough.

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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Jason Tackaberry

  * Similar to the above, when I manually move a message to
another folder, can I have it automatically expunged?
 
 Yes, by clicking 'expunge'.

I'm not sure what you think I mean by automatically, but having to
click expunge isn't what I mean by automatically expunging. ;)

At any rate ...

 You could just turn on 'hide deleted messages' which is probably what
 you really want but dont realise.

 ... this _is_ in fact what I wanted. :) 

 Not with the gui, you could try writing raw expressions.

Aha!  Nice to know this can be done.  I will start playing with that.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: [Evolution] Buying Ximian

2001-10-23 Thread Jason Tackaberry

 Ximian will soon be releasing Red Carpet Express.  RC Express is $9.95
 per month and will have significantly increased download speeds.  You
 can read the press release that is linked below.

I understand this isn't the place for this topic, but I thought I'd
voice my opinion anyway.

I like RC and would pay for increased download speeds.  However given
the number of times I use RC in a month, I don't think it's worth $10/mo
for me.  Will there be multiple tiers for this service?  Or perhaps
discounts for yearly subscriptions?  I think I'd pay $5USD/mo.

Since we're on the (off)topic of RC, will RC ever allow the ability for
users to configure 3rd party channels?  For instance, I think it would
be great for freshmeat, say, to offer an RC channel, and for RC users to
be able to subscribe to this channel without any burden being placed on
Ximian.  (In other words, completely independent of Ximian.)  This is
especially vital for internal deployments.

The above is where I see the real power in Red Carpet.  RC is a vehicle,
and I think some competition on the highways would be great.

Thanks for listening.  We now return you to our regularly scheduled
program. :)

Cheers,
Jason



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