Re: [Evolution] spam mail en virus

2003-01-12 Thread Mike Leone
Erik Leupold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 01/12/03 at 18:12: 
 Am Son, 2003-01-12 um 23.14 schrieb simran:
  You can setup some filters that run the emails via external programs
  that check for for spam and viruses. 
  
  * I use spamc (from spamassassin) for spam filtering
  * Not sure what is out there for virus checking, but i remember having 
heard of a program called fprot
  
  simran.
  
 
 F-Prot is a DOS-Scanner of F-Secure and it's free IMHO. Maybe you can

The Linux version is free for personal, non-commercial use. Not quite the same thing as
free.

CLAM is free, I believe.

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Re: [Evolution] Built-in spam filtering?

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Leone
Jim Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 01/02/03 at 19:07: 

 Of course I did.  It has about a 90% success rate and more than a 1%
 false positive rate and requires me to diligently keep up the rule
 base.  Now, 90% success would be great, but 1% false is a killer.  That
 means I'll see like five or ten falses a day, which means I'll be
 constantly going through the filtered mail, which defeats the purpose.

I use the latest 2.43 version, and I get much better than 90%, and can't
recall the last time I had a false positive. Perhaps your experiences were
with earlier versions?

 Probably 99% of Evolution's users don't run their own servers and would

I think that's an overstatement, altho I will agree to a large majority.

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Re: [Evolution] Reply-To Question

2002-12-20 Thread Mike Leone
Gregory Leblanc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 12/20/02 at 20:00: 
 
 Doing this means that you have to have some way of replying -other- than
 hitting the 'reply' button, in case you want to just send mail to the
 original sender.  Furthermore, the existing code to make 'reply-to-list'

I would think that 90+% of the time, you want a public response to a public
post, rather than a private reply (after all, it's a public mailing list). Why not
play the odds?
. 
  - reply to all means original poster gets two copies.  Why?
 
 It doesn't.  I think you're missing out on some common use-cases.  There
 are many mailing lists out there which do not require you to be a member
 of the list before posting.  That is to say, reply-to-all only results
 in the sender getting two copies of the mail if they're not on the
 list.  Removing the sender on 'reply-to-all' is a BAD idea.

Usually, that is not correct. The original poster gets 2 copies - one direct
to him from you; one from the list. Many's the time I've gotten 2 replies to
my Evolution list posts.

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Re: [Evolution] Outlook does not like .asc signature

2002-12-15 Thread Mike Leone
Josep Monés i Teixidor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 12/14/02 at 21:15: 

 BTW, are you sure there isn't any way to disable that behaviour
 (deleting attachments) in Outlook? It's seems a very agressive (not to
 say silly) thing to do!

Yes, there is. My Outlook does not delete any attachments.

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Re: [Evolution] Outlook does not like .asc signature

2002-12-14 Thread Mike Leone
Jeffrey Stedfast ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 12/14/02 at 18:07: 
 On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 14:54, Ed Weinberg wrote:
   I've ceased sending signed messages to mailing lists because of all the
   complaints from Outlook users... it always amazes me that so many
   otherwise highly intelligent people insist on using broken tools :(
  
  Unfortunatley when one mail program is used by so many people, bugs
  become features.  This week, we can't fight this.  That means that we
  either need to use tools that that can inter-operate with those bugs or
  not participate on the Internet.
 
 I have to disagree. It is still far better to conform to the standards.
 Lets also remember that Outlook Express deletes *all* messages with
 *any* attachment, so the problem is not limited to pgp signatures.

OE v6 perhaps; my v5 does not.

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Re: [Evolution] SPAM control : spamassassin vipul's razor

2002-11-21 Thread Mike Leone
Philippe Chartier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 11/21/02 at 09:58: 
 Hi, 
 
 It's not totally related to the list topic, but I was wondering if
 anyone tried to use Vipul's Razor http://razor.sourceforge.net/ with
 Evolution 1.2.
 
 It was simpler than I thought to install. I already had Spamassassin
 installed and it's filter my mail through a Pipe through shell command
 filter. From what I've read, Spamassassin was supposed to detect Razor's
 presence and it seemed to work. 
 
 The output was improved, with more spams detected. But the filtering
 became very slow (about 5-10 sec per message). Is there a way to

Razor is always slow, because they always seem to have problems with thier
servers. I just turn Razor off in SpamAssassin. It might miss some more
spam, but I don't have 10 seconds processing time per message. :-)

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Re: [Evolution] embedded URLs

2002-11-21 Thread Mike Leone
Jeffrey Stedfast ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 11/20/02 at 23:15: 
 Sounds like a Mozilla configuration issue (or a gnome-url configuration
 issue?).
 
 Unfortunately I know nothing about mozilla commandline options so I
 can't help ya.

I've seen this question before; it's a mozilla FAQ, I think. You're right;
there's an option to be used somewhere on the command line to stop this. Dig
around at mozilla.org.

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Re: [Evolution] Collapsing all threads...

2002-11-21 Thread Mike Leone
Larry Ewing ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 11/20/02 at 22:04: 
 It is trivial to download the archives and import them into a folder to

Doubt that those huge mailing lists archives are trivial to download for the
dialup users.

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Re: [Evolution] Connector / Debian Sid - revisited

2002-11-15 Thread Mike Leone
Irle Markus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 11 15, 02 at 06:20: 
 
 No, not really. RC is open-source, isn't it?
 But that nit-picking is again completely missing my point.
 
 Why am I forced into RC to _download_ a package?

Because Ximian wants you to. I realize that sounds flippant, but its the
truth. 

 Why doesn't Ximian put it up on their site just like they do with Evo and RC?

Possible because Connector is non-GPLed and proprietary? No idea, really.
 
 This is not about RC as piece of software. It's about RC being the only
 means of obtaining connector thus forcing people who want to use connector
 to use RC as well and simultaneously excluding lots of people for whom RC
 simply does not work.
 
 Evo+Conn was running fine on the Sid-boxes I set it up on. Now with the
 1.2 update I'm back in hell again. As a bonus RC stopped to work on the
 Suse 8.0 boxes I used to download the previous connector version... I'm
 currently running Outlook within VMWare... *sigh*

Yeah, I was never happy with RC. So now I only use the packages in Debian
unstable. I don't use RC, but I can sympathize that Ximian's practice is
aggravating. However, there haven't seemed to be any posts detailing why RC
is a requirement, nor many asking for that policy to be changed. You may be
out of luck, as far as non-RC use is concerned.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.2 on Debian

2002-11-12 Thread Mike Leone
Brian Rectanus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 11 12, 02 at 20:03: 
 Sorry to ask a silly question, but it does not look like Evolution 1.2
 and Connector 1.2 are available on debian.  I don't see any mention of
 if it will be or when it will be (not in the news,FAQ, knowledge base or
 list archives).  Maybe I am just blind, if so, sorry.

Debian packages are *never* available the day some new version comes out.
And a good thing, too - apparently, they give it a shakeout period. Make
sure that there are no show stopper bugs or anything. 


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Re: [Evolution] using spamassassin with evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Mike Leone
  That there's need for such a utility is obvious. At $US 30 per seat for
  Outlook and a shameful Deersoft (the commercial Windows Spamassassin

Last I looked (few months back), Exchange licenses cost $63 US each.

If you really needed it for an organization, you could setup a mail server
with postfix or sendmail, to filter out the spam, and then just relay it to
an internal Exchange server. Cost is minimal (use some leftover hardware).

I'm thinking of doing just that with my Exchange server at work.






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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 1.1.0.9

2002-09-10 Thread Mike Leone

* Lloyd D Budd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 09 10, 02 at 20:54: 
 On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 03:08, Hans Scheffers wrote:
  Hi
  I am using the development snapshot. Since a few days I cannot get to my
  settings anymore. Is there another way I can add / change / delete
  accounts?
  I also cannot use my signatures anymore... Can I change the default
  signature anymore?
 
 I am not a evo developer.  
 
 I do find it strange when seeing msgs from ppl using devel snapshots
 requesting help in such a way that would likely distract developers from
 developing.  If you can't drive, have not given your best effort to
 learn to drive, and you are not looking for assistance on driving, don't
 try driving.

How do you know that Hans has not given it his best effort?

 Depending on the development model, these sort of messages against the
 bleeding edge are excellent, but not likely in the context of evo. I
 might even suggest that such a posting is off topic.

Oh, surely not.


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Re: [Evolution] other platforms?

2002-03-29 Thread Mike Leone


- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Evolution] other platforms?


 
 I too would like to see the demise of most all MS applications from my
 machine. One thing Outlook has that evo does not at the moment is SPA
 authentication. I have one email source that requires it. I know that

Isn't Exchange the *only* mail server that requires this? And Outlook the only client?


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Re: [Evolution] RE: Two questions about evolution

2002-03-19 Thread Mike Leone

 Mostly fixed because we had to lose some functionality to get it to

Such as?

 all work. :-/ But the end result is that we are now more interoperable
 with Outlook than Outlook itself is. :)
 
That should be fun! :-)




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Re: [Evolution] TLS Evolution

2002-03-05 Thread Mike Leone


- Original Message - 
From: Rodolfo Pilas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 El mar, 05-03-2002 a las 16:04, Jeffrey Stedfast escribió:
  It should just work. Is there something in particular you want to know?
  
 
 Yes, I wish to know how to import the client certificate (*.p12) in
 Evolution like I import it in the Netscape Mailer (Security section)

No need. Just tell Evo to use SSL in the SMTP section of your mail account setup. 
Evo does not exchange certificates with postfix; it accepts the server certificate.






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Re: [Evolution] not wrapping incoming messages

2002-02-19 Thread Mike Leone


- Original Message - 
From: Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eric Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolution] not wrapping incoming messages


 On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 15:02, Eric Newman wrote:
  How can I configure evo to _not_ wrap incoming messages? I get a lot of
  emails that are wide ascii tables that I need to see in their entirety,
  but evo mangles them. Any ideas?
 
 You can't. File a bug at bugzilla.ximian.com

This *might* work as a work-around  hit REPLY. Hilight the table, and change from 
NORMAL to PRE-FORMAT.
You should be able to scroll back and forth horizontally, and see the whole table, 
presuming that it's not *too* wide.

Otherwise, save the email, and use an editor to rewrap  the lines as you want them.




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Re: [Evolution] Evo pilot conduits problems

2002-02-12 Thread Mike Leone

 It looks like mandrake is not packaging the conduits, atleast not in the
 evolution package.

But I'm not using Mandrake's packaging of Evolution.

[turgon@minas-aran turgon]$ rpm -qa | grep evolution
evolution-1.0.2-3.ximian.2
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Re: [Evolution] Message Priorities

2002-02-04 Thread Mike Leone


- Original Message - 
From: Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Steven R. Ringwald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Message Priorities


 On Sun, 2002-02-03 at 17:44, Steven R. Ringwald wrote:
  Is there any way to get Evolution to display messages of different
  priority in a different color??
  
  I have some messages that have the following in their headers:
  
  X-Priority: 1
  Priority: Urgent
  Importance: high
 
 Set up a filter rule:
 
 criterion:
   [Specific Header] Importance [is] high
 action:
   [Set Status] Important

Or Assign Color. That's what I do - lets me specify the color I want; different 
colors for different types of emails.

 
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Re: [Evolution] Re: GPG signatures

2002-01-25 Thread Mike Leone

 The workaround to this problem with inline signatures is to make the
 message and the signature separate MIME parts and specify that their
 contents are opaque. But then it is up to the mail client to recognize
 the Content-type: multipart/signed and the Content-disposition:
 inline MIME headers so it gets displayed as something other than a
 couple of attachments, yet still can be verified as a signed message.
 And that's where somebody gets to write and submit a patch  for
 Evolution.

How is that a patch for Evolution .. to make the OTHER client see the message as 
something more than 2 sttachments (which is how Outlook Express sees GPG signed 
stuff)? Wouldn't the Evo patch make Evo NOT send as Content-type: multipart/signed 
and the Content-disposition: inline MIME headers? Which would then not render it 
opaque?

I'm confused.




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Re: [Evolution] How do I tell Evolution what browser to use

2002-01-11 Thread Mike Leone

 You have to select the browser in the gnome control center. I use Opera
 and it works.

 Control Center - Document Handlers - URL Handlers

And choose what - text/html? Doesn't work for me; mozilla still comes up,
instead of galeon.




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Re: [Evolution] Header version incorrect?

2001-12-27 Thread Mike Leone


- Original Message -
From: Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Evolution Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Header version incorrect?


 On Mon, 2001-12-24 at 00:21, Michael Leone wrote:
  I use Evolution 1.02 (the Mandrake Cooker release, dated Dec 13)

 There is no such thing as Evolution 1.02. I suspect you mean
 evolution-1.0mdk2 or something. (Meaning the second Mandrake package.)

The package name is evolution-1.0-2mdk.


  X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release)
 
  This is definitely a post-1.0 release.

 Again, it's *not* post-1.0. The fact that it says Preview Release is a
 known bug that's fixed in 1.0.1.

So my version isn't just a Mandrake version of the post 1.0 release
snapshots? My apologies, then. Thanks for fixing that.

I notice that there hasn't been new snapshots in a while; does that mean
you're close to a 1.0.1 release?




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Re: [Evolution] Outlook and signed messages

2001-11-27 Thread Mike Leone

 have you tried to add a Content-Disposition: inline to the GPG-signed
 messages ? Perhaps Outlook will follow the hint and display the
 attachment inline.

Well, with the feature-freeze in place, it wouldn't be available for 1.0,
since this is - technically, anyway - not a bug (i.e., an error in the way
Evo works), but a feature change to accomodate OE.

Altho I second the idea. :-)



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Re: [Evolution] RH 7.1 snapshots?

2001-10-03 Thread Mike Leone

 We're not pushing snapshots ATM, even if they build. Hopefully the
 issues preventing the push will be resolved today or tomorrow.
 Luis

Ah. OK. Well, I did install the 2 updated files - libgal13.


 On Wed, 2001-10-03 at 08:15, Michael Leone wrote:
  Hi. The web page says that the snapshots for Red Hat 7.1 were built, but
  the evolution.rpm in the ftp directory is still the 2001.09.30 snapshot.
  Some of the other files (libgal13, etc) *do* have a later date.
 
  What's going on? Wasn't the main evo .rpm rebuilt?
 
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Re: [Evolution] How to use latest snapshots on Mandrake 8.1

2001-10-01 Thread Mike Leone



Cool. Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try 
tonight.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ujwal S. 
  Sathyam 
  To: Mike Leone 
  Cc: Evolution Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:00 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Evolution] How to use 
  latest snapshots on Mandrake 8.1
  RH 7.1 RPMs will work fine.UjwalOn Mon, 
  2001-10-01 at 07:15, Mike Leone wrote: 
  Hi. I upgraded from Mandrake 7.2 to Mandrake 8.1 over the weekend. While I
realize there's no Red carpet channel yet, since Mdk 8.1 was only released
last week, I'd like to continue using the latest Evo snapshots.

Will the RedHat 7.1 snaps work on Mdk 8.1? Anyone doing this? Any prequistes
I'd need, to go from the Evo 0.13 that comes with Mdk 8.1, to the latest
snapshots? With RC not working, I'd have to manually FTP them off Ximian's
site.



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