Re: [Evolution] Decryption & Signing - Version 1.2.0
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 11:36, Ian Scott wrote: > I've just upgraded to 1.2.0 and have come across some strange behaviour > with respect to encryption and signed messages. > > 1. When I receive encrypted email sent from something other than > Evolution, I am no longer asked for my passphrase - rather, the message > opens with the message still encrypted, and the only way to decrypt it > is to copy paste into a file and run gpg manually. > > Oddly, when I send myself some encrypted email with Evolution, Evo > presents me with the passphrase box, and after successfully entering, > the message is decrypted. I presume this is inline pgp? We've dropped support of inline pgp at this time. A couple of minor architectural changes are needed to support it - but the design of it is pretty broken anyway. > 2. With the previous version of Evolution, signed messages all arrived, > with the digital signature as an attachment, even when digitally signed > in-line. Or at least, that's what the behaviour seemed to be. However, > I am now finding an inconsistent display of digitally signed messages, > some are in-line, some are attachments displaying the lock icon. Again, this is because inline-pgp is no longer supported. > 3. Not totally related to the above, and I understand there are > numerous messages in the archives about this, but it concerns me that > using Evolution to encrypt email and sign it is incompatible with a huge > number of other email applications because of the differences in > PGP/MIME and S/MIME. Is there a search function for the archives? I'm I dunno, check the url at the bottom of the mail for info on the archives. At worst, there's always google, and "+site:lists.ximian.com" > trying very hard to understand the point of view of the Evo developers - > but with so many incompatibilities, I'm not fully satisfied I understand > the reasoning why Evo does not seem to work as far as decryption/signing > with so many other email applications. It's a real pain in the butt for > users of Kmail, Outlook, and almost any other MUA to receive encrypted > or signed email from me when using Evolution. I love Evolution.. except > this one issue is a real pain! We only support the more recent standard of pgp/mime. Unfortunately there's an earlier rfc which isn't fully compatible with the newest one. Again pointing to the problems of the pgp implementors. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Decryption & Signing - Version 1.2.0
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 20:38, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > Evolution only supports PGP/MIME currently, S/MIME is planned but is a > LOT of work to do. Also, I think Mozilla is the only client on Linux to > even support it currently. The German Government is supposedly putting a > lot of effort into writing support for mutt to do S/MIME but so far no > one has offered to do that for us :-( > > We plan on trying to use the Mozilla security libraries to implement > S/MIME (or at least, that's what I had started to implement S/MIME in > for Evolution a year and a half ago or so but stopped because their > library interfaces kept changing). > > Even using the Mozilla nss libraries, it will take probably a good 6 > months to a year to implement and we just don't have the resources > currently. There are more important things to do... > > There have been a few people that have volunteered to work on it, but > they have all gone incommunicado. > Thanks, Jeff, for the information. Wish I had enough knowledge to help out with this. It is good to know that there are plans to implement S/MIME in the future. Now, anyone have any ideas regarding points #1 and 2 with the latest version of Evolution? I hope this is a bug that can be fixed. I don't like the thought of having to save encrypted email to a file to be manually decrypted! Thanks, -- Ian Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Decryption & Signing - Version 1.2.0
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 20:06, Ian Scott wrote: > I've just upgraded to 1.2.0 and have come across some strange behaviour > with respect to encryption and signed messages. > > 1. When I receive encrypted email sent from something other than > Evolution, I am no longer asked for my passphrase - rather, the message > opens with the message still encrypted, and the only way to decrypt it > is to copy paste into a file and run gpg manually. > > Oddly, when I send myself some encrypted email with Evolution, Evo > presents me with the passphrase box, and after successfully entering, > the message is decrypted. > > 2. With the previous version of Evolution, signed messages all arrived, > with the digital signature as an attachment, even when digitally signed > in-line. Or at least, that's what the behaviour seemed to be. However, > I am now finding an inconsistent display of digitally signed messages, > some are in-line, some are attachments displaying the lock icon. > > 3. Not totally related to the above, and I understand there are > numerous messages in the archives about this, but it concerns me that > using Evolution to encrypt email and sign it is incompatible with a huge > number of other email applications because of the differences in > PGP/MIME and S/MIME. Is there a search function for the archives? I'm > trying very hard to understand the point of view of the Evo developers - > but with so many incompatibilities, I'm not fully satisfied I understand > the reasoning why Evo does not seem to work as far as decryption/signing > with so many other email applications. It's a real pain in the butt for > users of Kmail, Outlook, and almost any other MUA to receive encrypted > or signed email from me when using Evolution. I love Evolution.. except > this one issue is a real pain! Evolution only supports PGP/MIME currently, S/MIME is planned but is a LOT of work to do. Also, I think Mozilla is the only client on Linux to even support it currently. The German Government is supposedly putting a lot of effort into writing support for mutt to do S/MIME but so far no one has offered to do that for us :-( We plan on trying to use the Mozilla security libraries to implement S/MIME (or at least, that's what I had started to implement S/MIME in for Evolution a year and a half ago or so but stopped because their library interfaces kept changing). Even using the Mozilla nss libraries, it will take probably a good 6 months to a year to implement and we just don't have the resources currently. There are more important things to do... There have been a few people that have volunteered to work on it, but they have all gone incommunicado. Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Decryption & Signing - Version 1.2.0
I've just upgraded to 1.2.0 and have come across some strange behaviour with respect to encryption and signed messages. 1. When I receive encrypted email sent from something other than Evolution, I am no longer asked for my passphrase - rather, the message opens with the message still encrypted, and the only way to decrypt it is to copy paste into a file and run gpg manually. Oddly, when I send myself some encrypted email with Evolution, Evo presents me with the passphrase box, and after successfully entering, the message is decrypted. 2. With the previous version of Evolution, signed messages all arrived, with the digital signature as an attachment, even when digitally signed in-line. Or at least, that's what the behaviour seemed to be. However, I am now finding an inconsistent display of digitally signed messages, some are in-line, some are attachments displaying the lock icon. 3. Not totally related to the above, and I understand there are numerous messages in the archives about this, but it concerns me that using Evolution to encrypt email and sign it is incompatible with a huge number of other email applications because of the differences in PGP/MIME and S/MIME. Is there a search function for the archives? I'm trying very hard to understand the point of view of the Evo developers - but with so many incompatibilities, I'm not fully satisfied I understand the reasoning why Evo does not seem to work as far as decryption/signing with so many other email applications. It's a real pain in the butt for users of Kmail, Outlook, and almost any other MUA to receive encrypted or signed email from me when using Evolution. I love Evolution.. except this one issue is a real pain! Thanks! -- Ian Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
