Re: [Evolution] NEW problem with Evo and encryption

2001-10-05 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

It's not using a different spec, it's using THE spec. There is no
other spec. Their mailer is broken, period.

Btw, Evolution can handle receiving email from these broken mailers but
does not send out the broken format because that is just WRONG.

Jeff

On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 00:04, Ralph Sanford wrote:
 On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 15:34, Dan Berger wrote:
  I think there's a bug in bugzilla on the topic, no?  Eventually it
  would be friendlier if Evo did the right thing in both cases - since
  the recipient has no control over the broken mailers on the send side
  (hell, I'm ecstatic when I find someone who can spell pgp ;)
  
  On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 02:46:48PM -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
   
   The problem with in-line pgp encrypted messages is that we have to do
   evil hacks to detect and then decrypt the text and show it in the
   viewer. When we go to reply, we use a different code path that looks for
   the message body part and sends that off to the composer. It doesn't
   do any evil hacks to decrypt pgp encrypted blocks.
   
   Jeff
   
  
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 As some one who has correspondents obviously using in-line pgp
 encryption, I would also appreciate if Evo could work in either case.
 
 I am using email to communicate with other persons and telling those
 people to change their emailer because my email program is using a
 different spec is not going to happen.
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] NEW problem with Evo and encryption

2001-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

This problem is not anything new, this has always been the case with
in-line PGP encrypted messages.

If you got a properly encrypted message (PGP/MIME), you'd be able to
reply via plain-text.

The problem with in-line pgp encrypted messages is that we have to do
evil hacks to detect and then decrypt the text and show it in the
viewer. When we go to reply, we use a different code path that looks for
the message body part and sends that off to the composer. It doesn't
do any evil hacks to decrypt pgp encrypted blocks.

Jeff

On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 01:40, Ralph Sanford wrote:
 A new problem has been spotted regarding the use of Evo and encrypted
 email.  This is regarding email that is encrypted but does not contain
 an attachment.
 
 When encrypted email is received by evo there is a lock icon displayed
 until the email is decrypted for display.  So far so good.  After
 reading the displayed message it is decided to reply to the original
 sender.  Hit the reply button and a new message window is opened with
 the original message included EXCEPT that the original message that is
 being quoted is now encrypted.  This is not so good, in fact this is not
 workable.  It is impossible for me to type a comment into an encrypted
 block of text.  Also the original poster does not know what his message
 looks like after it is encrypted and since the original message was
 encrypted to my public key then it is not possible for him to open it
 anyhow.  Once the message has been decrypted by me for my use then I
 should be able to send it to whomever I choose in plain, decrypted text
 or encrypted IF I so choose.
 
 I believe this was handled correctly in Evo 0.13 it is incorrect in 0.14
 and 0.15
 
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] NEW problem with Evo and encryption

2001-10-04 Thread Dan Berger

I think there's a bug in bugzilla on the topic, no?  Eventually it
would be friendlier if Evo did the right thing in both cases - since
the recipient has no control over the broken mailers on the send side
(hell, I'm ecstatic when I find someone who can spell pgp ;)

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 02:46:48PM -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 
 The problem with in-line pgp encrypted messages is that we have to do
 evil hacks to detect and then decrypt the text and show it in the
 viewer. When we go to reply, we use a different code path that looks for
 the message body part and sends that off to the composer. It doesn't
 do any evil hacks to decrypt pgp encrypted blocks.
 
 Jeff
 

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Re: [Evolution] NEW problem with Evo and encryption

2001-10-04 Thread Ralph Sanford

On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 15:34, Dan Berger wrote:
 I think there's a bug in bugzilla on the topic, no?  Eventually it
 would be friendlier if Evo did the right thing in both cases - since
 the recipient has no control over the broken mailers on the send side
 (hell, I'm ecstatic when I find someone who can spell pgp ;)
 
 On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 02:46:48PM -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
  
  The problem with in-line pgp encrypted messages is that we have to do
  evil hacks to detect and then decrypt the text and show it in the
  viewer. When we go to reply, we use a different code path that looks for
  the message body part and sends that off to the composer. It doesn't
  do any evil hacks to decrypt pgp encrypted blocks.
  
  Jeff
  
 
 -- 
Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger
Inter arma silent leges
 

As some one who has correspondents obviously using in-line pgp
encryption, I would also appreciate if Evo could work in either case.

I am using email to communicate with other persons and telling those
people to change their emailer because my email program is using a
different spec is not going to happen.


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[Evolution] NEW problem with Evo and encryption

2001-10-03 Thread Ralph Sanford

A new problem has been spotted regarding the use of Evo and encrypted
email.  This is regarding email that is encrypted but does not contain
an attachment.

When encrypted email is received by evo there is a lock icon displayed
until the email is decrypted for display.  So far so good.  After
reading the displayed message it is decided to reply to the original
sender.  Hit the reply button and a new message window is opened with
the original message included EXCEPT that the original message that is
being quoted is now encrypted.  This is not so good, in fact this is not
workable.  It is impossible for me to type a comment into an encrypted
block of text.  Also the original poster does not know what his message
looks like after it is encrypted and since the original message was
encrypted to my public key then it is not possible for him to open it
anyhow.  Once the message has been decrypted by me for my use then I
should be able to send it to whomever I choose in plain, decrypted text
or encrypted IF I so choose.

I believe this was handled correctly in Evo 0.13 it is incorrect in 0.14
and 0.15



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