Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2 (off topic a bit)
Last night I tried to install Ximian desktop on a fresh test system of Red Hat 7.2. Why on earth would balsa, among a few other apps, be listed as a necessary removal to install Ximian desktop? Is Ximian trying to dictate what app to use? I currently feel there are shades of MS appearing. Hopefully I am wrong on this, but again what reason would balsa need to be removed, no information was offered as to why? I think an alternative method for Ximian install needs to be done. Give a sold reason as to why an app(s) needs to be removed, and also offer an alternative choice so that the listed app does not have to be removed. The app in question could be vary valuable to the user. For the most part I like the Ximian desktop and Evolution, (I also play with Balsa), though there are somethings with both items I would like to see changed, in particular the way Ximian mucks with the menu systems, leave them alone and just include rather then replace them. Sean On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 11:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Oct 2001, Ken Guest wrote: hmm. it's probably doing some checking on the UserAgent header and the UserAgent header that lynx sends wasn't coded for. No, that's not it. It doesn't care what's in the UserAgent header. It's just a shell script. No, I've looked at the installer and the error I get is output by a function called bail_os which is supposed to happen if: * The output of uname -s is anything other than Linux or SunOS * The output of uname -m is anything other than ppc, i[3456]86, or sun4 * or the distro is not in its list. And of course RH 7.2 is not in the list. Even the manual installer for RH 7.2 (referenced from http://www.ximian.com/download/instructions.html?distribution=manual) at ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/installers/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386.gz didn't work. Did anyone at Ximian actually try to install Ximian Gnome from scratch on a fresh install of 7.2 before saying the installer supports 7.2? I really would like to get Evolution back up and running. Brian ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2 (off topic a bit)
On Thu, 2001-10-25 at 13:53, Hartnett wrote: Last night I tried to install Ximian desktop on a fresh test system of Red Hat 7.2. Why on earth would balsa, among a few other apps, be listed as a necessary removal to install Ximian desktop? Is Ximian trying to dictate what app to use? I currently feel there are shades of MS appearing. Hopefully I am wrong on this, but again what reason would balsa need to be removed, no information was offered as to why? Usually that is because Balsa depends on a library which is going to be upgraded. After the upgrade Balsa will not work, so it will be removed. I think an alternative method for Ximian install needs to be done. Give a sold reason as to why an app(s) needs to be removed, and also offer an alternative choice so that the listed app does not have to be removed. The app in question could be vary valuable to the user. For the most part I like the Ximian desktop and Evolution, (I also play with Balsa), though there are somethings with both items I would like to see changed, in particular the way Ximian mucks with the menu systems, leave them alone and just include rather then replace them. If you right-click on the foot and select properties, you'll see that Ximian GNOME does not replace the system menu, it instead adds another set of menus. When I press on the foot, I get two Programs menus, one from RedHat and one from Ximian. Ximian use a different menu tree as the layout of their tree is different, and it means that all supported Ximian distributions get the same menu tree. Ross -- Ross Burton Software Engineer OneEighty Software Ltd Tel: +44 20 8680 8712 Cygnet HouseFax: +44 20 8680 8453 12-14 Sydenham Road [EMAIL PROTECTED] Croydon, Surrey CR9 2ET, UK http://www.180sw.com./ Under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Act 2000 together with any and all Regulations in force pursuant to the Act OneEighty Software Ltd reserves the right to monitor any or all incoming or outgoing communications as provided for under the Act PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 13:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23 Oct 2001, Dan Winship wrote: Are you trying to install from CD? That won't work since the CDs predate RH7.2. You need to install off the network. Go to www.ximian.com and click the Download button on the top right. Er uh, that's what I did and I get the following error ... Error! Sorry, the operating system `' is not supported by the Ximian Desktop installer. We apologize for the inconvenience. Please see http://www.ximian.com/desktop/ for more information. Cleaning up temporary files... done. Any ideas? what browser are you using? ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2
On 24 Oct 2001, Ken Guest wrote: Error! Sorry, the operating system `' is not supported by the Ximian Desktop installer. We apologize for the inconvenience. Please see http://www.ximian.com/desktop/ for more information. Cleaning up temporary files... done. Any ideas? what browser are you using? lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh Brian ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2
On 24 Oct 2001, Hartje Bruns wrote: Am Die, 2001-10-23 um 22.17 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I could have sworn I saw folks on this list talking about getting Evolution ( Ximian Gnome itself) installed on RH 7.2. Anyway to do this on a pristine install (since the installer doesn't know about 7.2, it You could try to change /etc/redhat-release, so that evo. thinks it has 7.1, but don t know if this works ?! In my 7.1 redhat-release is the following text: Red Hat Linux release 7.1 (Seawolf) RedHat 7.2 is supposed to be supported in the installer now by default and, it would seem other people have gotten this to work ... My /etc/redhat-release says Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) Brian ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2
I had to use: links -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 15:18, Brian Gonzales wrote: I had to use: links -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh hmm. it's probably doing some checking on the UserAgent header and the UserAgent header that lynx sends wasn't coded for. k. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2
A different mirror site.. not all the mirrors sites have updated or haven't been informed to update or whatever.. just get it from ximian headquarters. On Wednesday 24 October 2001 10:25 am, you wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Brian Gonzales wrote: I had to use: links -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh Just got it and got the same error. What is the installer looking at that it sees my operating system as `' rather than RH 7.2? Brian ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2 (off topic)
On 24 Oct 2001, Ken Guest wrote: hmm. it's probably doing some checking on the UserAgent header and the UserAgent header that lynx sends wasn't coded for. No, that's not it. It doesn't care what's in the UserAgent header. It's just a shell script. No, I've looked at the installer and the error I get is output by a function called bail_os which is supposed to happen if: * The output of uname -s is anything other than Linux or SunOS * The output of uname -m is anything other than ppc, i[3456]86, or sun4 * or the distro is not in its list. And of course RH 7.2 is not in the list. Even the manual installer for RH 7.2 (referenced from http://www.ximian.com/download/instructions.html?distribution=manual) at ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/ximian-gnome/installers/installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386.gz didn't work. Did anyone at Ximian actually try to install Ximian Gnome from scratch on a fresh install of 7.2 before saying the installer supports 7.2? I really would like to get Evolution back up and running. Brian ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] RedHat 7.2, Evolution 0.16, No Contacts?
Does anyone who installed Red Hat 7.2 still have their contacts? I can't see any even though my contacts db hasn't changed since before the upgrade. Also, I keep getting 'too many open files' dialogs when first starting evo. I did a clean install of RH 7.2 and then upgraded to XG 1.4. Thanks, tjb PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2
Sorry, the operating system `' is not supported by the Ximian Desktop installer. We apologize for the inconvenience. Please see http://www.ximian.com/desktop/ for more information. Any ideas? Nope. I know nothing about the installer. Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], they should be able to help. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] RedHat 7.2
I could have sworn I saw folks on this list talking about getting Evolution ( Ximian Gnome itself) installed on RH 7.2. Anyway to do this on a pristine install (since the installer doesn't know about 7.2, it would seem)? Thanks, Brian ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] RedHat 7.2
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 16:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could have sworn I saw folks on this list talking about getting Evolution ( Ximian Gnome itself) installed on RH 7.2. Anyway to do this on a pristine install (since the installer doesn't know about 7.2, it would seem)? Are you trying to install from CD? That won't work since the CDs predate RH7.2. You need to install off the network. Go to www.ximian.com and click the Download button on the top right. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Redhat 7.2
I'm about to install redhat 7.2, and I'm wondering if anybody has been able to install evolution (or, indeed Ximian Gnome) under the betas; will the 7.1 RPM:s work if I remove the original Gnome rpm:s? Barring that, what kind of time frame is there for a redhat 7.2 version? I really don't want to lose evolution for too long... -- Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend. Mr. Jan Morén Dept. of Cognitive Science Tel. +46-046 222 8588 Kungshuset, Lund Fax. +46-046 222 9758 S-222 22 Lund, Sweden ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Redhat 7.2
On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 15:21, Janne Morén wrote: I'm about to install redhat 7.2, and I'm wondering if anybody has been able to install evolution (or, indeed Ximian Gnome) under the betas; will the 7.1 RPM:s work if I remove the original Gnome rpm:s? While it's often not the most reliable news source, slashdot's article on 7.2's release states the following: If you're upgrading from the previous Red Hat 7.1 and you're using Ximian GNOME, then you might want to erase all Ximian GNOME RPMS (use the command: rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep -i ximian` --nodeps to erase the RPMS). Red Hat's GNOME RPMS has been more tested then Ximian's one and there is a conflict between them. You cannot use Red-Carpet on Redhat 7.2 as it will fail with the RPM libraries. Not that I can make an immense amount of sense of the English or technical meaning in there, but it seems that things aren't too well supported at the moment. I'm sure that RH7.2 is one of Ximian's main target platforms, though, so it won't be too long before things are fixed. ~C. -- $a=printf.net; Chris Ball | chris@void.$a | www.$a | finger: chris@$a In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Redhat 7.2
FWIW, (1) I think someone is drafting a response to Hemos's typically uninformed 'more tested' 'news' at the moment and (2) barring serious issues, we'll have 7.2 support on the servers and in the installer this afternoon. I've been using it myself for about two weeks (we're on their beta program.) Luis On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 11:35, Chris Ball wrote: On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 15:21, Janne Morén wrote: I'm about to install redhat 7.2, and I'm wondering if anybody has been able to install evolution (or, indeed Ximian Gnome) under the betas; will the 7.1 RPM:s work if I remove the original Gnome rpm:s? While it's often not the most reliable news source, slashdot's article on 7.2's release states the following: If you're upgrading from the previous Red Hat 7.1 and you're using Ximian GNOME, then you might want to erase all Ximian GNOME RPMS (use the command: rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep -i ximian` --nodeps to erase the RPMS). Red Hat's GNOME RPMS has been more tested then Ximian's one and there is a conflict between them. You cannot use Red-Carpet on Redhat 7.2 as it will fail with the RPM libraries. Not that I can make an immense amount of sense of the English or technical meaning in there, but it seems that things aren't too well supported at the moment. I'm sure that RH7.2 is one of Ximian's main target platforms, though, so it won't be too long before things are fixed. ~C. -- $a=printf.net; Chris Ball | chris@void.$a | www.$a | finger: chris@$a In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. -- Luis Villa Ximian Bugmaster Quality is an amazing bridge because it is universal in its language. Thomas Corcoran ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Redhat 7.2
On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 11:35, Chris Ball wrote: On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 15:21, Janne Morén wrote: I'm about to install redhat 7.2, and I'm wondering if anybody has been able to install evolution (or, indeed Ximian Gnome) under the betas; will the 7.1 RPM:s work if I remove the original Gnome rpm:s? While it's often not the most reliable news source, slashdot's article on 7.2's release states the following: If you're upgrading from the previous Red Hat 7.1 and you're using Ximian GNOME, then you might want to erase all Ximian GNOME RPMS (use the command: rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep -i ximian` --nodeps to erase the RPMS). Red Hat's GNOME RPMS has been more tested then Ximian's one and there is a conflict between them. You cannot use Red-Carpet on Redhat 7.2 as it will fail with the RPM libraries. Where does slashdot come up with this shit? (pardon my french) I don't believe Red Hat's QA process to be substantially better than the Ximian one. Clearly Ximian GNOME for Red Hat 7.1 isn't designed to work on Red Hat 7.2, but that doesn't detract from the QA that they've done. I'm sure Ximian will have a new Ximian GNOME before very long at all. Greg ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
