[Evolution] Xinerama
I've had a dig to see if this has come up before - I can't find a bug, just an inconclusive thread on this list last month. I'm running Evo 0.99.2 on Debian Woody, XFree86 4.1.0.1, Matrox G450 with standard XFree86 driver, Xinerama mode over two monitors, Enlightenment 0.16. With X running on a single monitor, Evolution is extremely well behaved (congratulations ;c) - when I switch to Xinerama, it hangs after a few minutes use. There doesn't seem to be a consistent delay or trigger, but it is 100% repeatable. Once it's hung, it won't restart until I've restarted X (I assume there's something that I could kill to fix it, but I haven't found it). If I run it from the console, no error messages are displayed. I've got hardware acceleration disabled in Single screen mode at the moment, so dual monitor/Xinerama is the only_ changing variable here. Before I log a bug, I'd like to provide something a bit less vague. How can I trace the source of this problem? -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] xinerama
hi, why does Evo. not start when i'm in the xinerama mode. Evo starts but then it freeze :-( I'm using Debian Woody XFree 4.1, and Evo 1.08.99). cu denny ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Xinerama
On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 15:36, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > I've had a dig to see if this has come up before - I can't find a bug, > just an inconclusive thread on this list last month. > > I'm running Evo 0.99.2 on Debian Woody, XFree86 4.1.0.1, Matrox G450 > with standard XFree86 driver, Xinerama mode over two monitors, > Enlightenment 0.16. > > With X running on a single monitor, Evolution is extremely well behaved > (congratulations ;c) - when I switch to Xinerama, it hangs after a few > minutes use. There doesn't seem to be a consistent delay or trigger, but > it is 100% repeatable. Once it's hung, it won't restart until I've > restarted X (I assume there's something that I could kill to fix it, but > I haven't found it). If I run it from the console, no error messages are > displayed. > > I've got hardware acceleration disabled in Single screen mode at the > moment, so dual monitor/Xinerama is the only_ changing variable here. > > Before I log a bug, I'd like to provide something a bit less vague. How > can I trace the source of this problem? Interesting I run RedHat 7.1 (updated via RedCarpet) with a Matrox G450 (Aug 22 Matrox drivers); X 4.0.3-5; Gnome 1.4.0; E 0.16.4-7; and Evolution 0.99.2-ximian.3 .. all in xinerama. Mine seems stable. Whether the problem is an X issue, or a Woody issue, I don't know - however it's not an xinerama issue per-sae.. Do you want any further info from my system, to try to eliminate common elements? -- --==++ Ian Stuart: Edinburgh University Data Library. I build things: computer programs (with code); or cars (with metal) Personal web site: http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/ ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Xinerama
On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 14:48, Ian Stuart wrote: > On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 14:12, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > > > I guess that's as good a place to start as any...what should we be looking > > for. > > Anything related to the basic X system, obviously, Gnome libraries. Anything > > else? > OK here we are: > > Dual PII-450 with 385MB Ram. SCSI & IDE disks. Nice! ;c) Duron 750MHz, 256Mb RAM. IDE disk. > 2.4.13 Kernel (my configuration) 2.4.12 Kernel, also home brewed. Just installed a stock DW 2.4.13 kernel - no change, so I guess we can rule that out. I'll roll a new one when I get time. > X 4.0.3 (no DRI); 4.1.0-9 from Debian Woody. Currently no DRI 'cause I forgot to compile it into the last kernel...but the G450 won't use it in dual head mode anyway. I'm not going to try downgrading this - I never managed to get DRI working on 4.0.2 > E 0.16.4; 0.16.5-4 (DW) - but I get the same problem under other window managers, so we can rule this out. > glibc 2.2.4 2.2.4-3 (DW) > Gnome (all ximian versions): > -libs 1.2.13 1.4.1.1 (DW) - that looks like a possible candidate. Just rolled it back to gnome-libs-data 1.2.13-ximian.11. Subjectively, may have made it worse - in any case it's made gdm decidedly wobbly (although it satisfies its dependencies..) so back to the DW version. > -core 1.4.0 > -print 0.31 > gtk+ 1.2.10 All same. > Evolution 0.99.2-ximian.3 Evo 0.99.2-ximian.2 This appears to be the latest version packaged for Debian. > Mail is accessed via IMAP. Ditto - from both local network and a remote (and at times slow) server. Just run an upgrade which installed quite a few Gnome libraries from Debian Woody, haven't time to test it properly today, but it's already crashed once in Xinerama, is running very nicely on a single screen, so apparently no change. I noticed on the Ximian FTP server the Debian Woody Ximian Gnome directory doesn't contain Evo, only the Potato one, so I guess they're only building it for that at the moment (which is fair enough - Woody's a bit of a moving target. Leave that to the Debian package maintainer.) Sure enough, my apt-sources file lists a stable archive - there doesn't appear to be a copy of the Woody debs set up as a Debian archive. I guess I'm just going to have to live with it for the time being - dillema: Evo or Xinerama... Now that says a lot about how good Evo is - there aren't many things I'd give up the second monitor for... Cheers. -- Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Xinerama
You could always just run 2 seperate screensnot quite as nice, but Xinerama doesn't just crash evo for me - my whole box dies (no time to figure it out).this way I've got evo/galeon on the larger monitor, and the secondary is a couple xterms, gkrellm, gnomeicu, etc. On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 21:05, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 14:48, Ian Stuart wrote: > > On Tue, 2001-11-20 at 14:12, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > > > > > I guess that's as good a place to start as any...what should we be looking > > > for. > > > Anything related to the basic X system, obviously, Gnome libraries. Anything > > > else? > > OK here we are: > > > > Dual PII-450 with 385MB Ram. SCSI & IDE disks. > Nice! ;c) > > Duron 750MHz, 256Mb RAM. IDE disk. > > > 2.4.13 Kernel (my configuration) > 2.4.12 Kernel, also home brewed. Just installed a stock DW 2.4.13 kernel > - no change, so I guess we can rule that out. I'll roll a new one when I > get time. > > > X 4.0.3 (no DRI); > 4.1.0-9 from Debian Woody. Currently no DRI 'cause I forgot to compile > it into the last kernel...but the G450 won't use it in dual head mode > anyway. I'm not going to try downgrading this - I never managed to get > DRI working on 4.0.2 > > > E 0.16.4; > 0.16.5-4 (DW) - but I get the same problem under other window managers, > so we can rule this out. > > > glibc 2.2.4 > 2.2.4-3 (DW) > > > Gnome (all ximian versions): > > -libs 1.2.13 > 1.4.1.1 (DW) - that looks like a possible candidate. Just rolled it back > to gnome-libs-data 1.2.13-ximian.11. Subjectively, may have made it > worse - in any case it's made gdm decidedly wobbly (although it > satisfies its dependencies..) so back to the DW version. > > > -core 1.4.0 > > -print 0.31 > > gtk+ 1.2.10 > All same. > > > Evolution 0.99.2-ximian.3 > Evo 0.99.2-ximian.2 > > This appears to be the latest version packaged for Debian. > > > Mail is accessed via IMAP. > Ditto - from both local network and a remote (and at times slow) server. > Just run an upgrade which installed quite a few Gnome libraries from > Debian Woody, haven't time to test it properly today, but it's already > crashed once in Xinerama, is running very nicely on a single screen, so > apparently no change. > > I noticed on the Ximian FTP server the Debian Woody Ximian Gnome > directory doesn't contain Evo, only the Potato one, so I guess they're > only building it for that at the moment (which is fair enough - Woody's > a bit of a moving target. Leave that to the Debian package maintainer.) > > Sure enough, my apt-sources file lists a stable archive - there doesn't > appear to be a copy of the Woody debs set up as a Debian archive. > > I guess I'm just going to have to live with it for the time being - > dillema: Evo or Xinerama... > > Now that says a lot about how good Evo is - there aren't many things I'd > give up the second monitor for... > > Cheers. > > -- > Geoff Beaumont > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Xinerama
On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 02:05, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > > 2.4.13 Kernel (my configuration) > 2.4.12 Kernel, also home brewed. Just installed a stock DW 2.4.13 kernel > - no change, so I guess we can rule that out. I'll roll a new one when I > get time. Just upgraded to 7.2 (which has a 2.4.7 Kernel). Not built a new 2.4.15 version yet (need to have the ext3 stuff, hence no 2.4.13..) Evolution seems pretty good so far (1hr+) > > > X 4.0.3 (no DRI); > 4.1.0-9 from Debian Woody. Currently no DRI 'cause I forgot to compile > it into the last kernel...but the G450 won't use it in dual head mode > anyway. I'm not going to try downgrading this - I never managed to get > DRI working on 4.0.2 Now on X 4.1.0-3 > > > E 0.16.4; > 0.16.5-4 (DW) - but I get the same problem under other window managers, > so we can rule this out. > > > glibc 2.2.4 > 2.2.4-3 (DW) Glibc 2.2.4.19 (RH 7.2) > > Gnome (all ximian versions): Not changed.. > > > Evolution 0.99.2-ximian.3 > Evo 0.99.2-ximian.2 Still .3 > I guess I'm just going to have to live with it for the time being - > dillema: Evo or Xinerama... > > Now that says a lot about how good Evo is - there aren't many things I'd > give up the second monitor for... Have you tried the mgapdesk util (from matrox - needs the latest mga drivers too), and tried the 'Merged' mode? It's non-xinerama, but uses the mga-hal drivers to give you a single display, spread across two monitors... (ie instead of two 1280x1024, you get one 2560x1024 - its xinerama, but it's not :) -- --==++ Ian Stuart: Edinburgh University Data Library. I build things: computer programs (with code); or cars (with metal) Personal web site: http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/ ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Xinerama
At 08:30 27/11/2001 +, you wrote: >On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 21:45, Geoff Beaumont wrote: > > On Fri, 2001-11-23 at 10:56, Ian Stuart wrote: > > > Have you tried the mgapdesk util (from matrox - needs the latest mga > > > drivers too), and tried the 'Merged' mode? > > > > > > It's non-xinerama, but uses the mga-hal drivers to give you a single > > > display, spread across two monitors... > > > > > > (ie instead of two 1280x1024, you get one 2560x1024 - its xinerama, but > > > it's not :) > > > > mgapdesk flatly refuses to compile on my machine (for reasons I can't > > fathom), but the Matrox drivers seem to have done the trick anyway - > > Evo's been stable under Xinerama for a couple of days now. Lovely ;c) >Excellent! > >Must have been an X / mga(_hal?) problem.. > >I'm surprised that only Evolution got caught by it (unless it was one of >the sub-engines that was dying, taking Evo. with it..) Meant to send the last mail to the list (sorry Ian, forgot Evo list doesn't change reply-to to itself). I'm guessing a relatively low level Gnome library - but only because while Evo seemed to be the only thing affected, after it had hung nothing short of restarting X would get it to work (that I could find anyway). Geoff Beaumont [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] xinerama
On Sat, 2002-08-10 at 19:52, Denny Schierz wrote: > hi, > > why does Evo. not start when i'm in the xinerama mode. Evo starts but > then it freeze :-( I'm using Debian Woody XFree 4.1, and Evo 1.08.99). no idea ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
