Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

go to the Filter dialog and look at the "Expression" drop-down.

Jeff

On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 15:42, Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 12:33, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 02:27, Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> > > 
> > > Here's a thought on an advanced UI for that... It's not perfect but I
> > > can't think of a better way:
> > > 
> > > Execute actions [if logical expression is met]
> > > (a) Recipients contains   foo
> > > (b) Sender contains   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > (c) Message Body contains bork
> > > 
> > > Logical expression: [((a&b)|c)|(~b&c)]
> > > 
> > > Where the expression would be a text entry box.
> > > 
> > > Any better ideas would be welcome, though. :-)
> > 
> > This is how it already works... ;-)
> 
> Internally, or this is the plan for a UI?
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-29 Thread Ben FrantzDale

On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 12:33, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 02:27, Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> > 
> > Here's a thought on an advanced UI for that... It's not perfect but I
> > can't think of a better way:
> > 
> > Execute actions [if logical expression is met]
> > (a) Recipients   contains   foo
> > (b) Sender   contains   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (c) Message Body contains   bork
> > 
> > Logical expression: [((a&b)|c)|(~b&c)]
> > 
> > Where the expression would be a text entry box.
> > 
> > Any better ideas would be welcome, though. :-)
> 
> This is how it already works... ;-)

Internally, or this is the plan for a UI?

--Ben "great minds think alike" FrantzDale


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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 02:27, Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> 
> Here's a thought on an advanced UI for that... It's not perfect but I
> can't think of a better way:
> 
> Execute actions [if logical expression is met]
> (a) Recipients contains   foo
> (b) Sender contains   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (c) Message Body contains bork
> 
> Logical expression: [((a&b)|c)|(~b&c)]
> 
> Where the expression would be a text entry box.
> 
> Any better ideas would be welcome, though. :-)

This is how it already works... ;-)

Jeff

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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-29 Thread Jason Tackaberry

> Execute actions [if logical expression is met]
> (a) Recipients contains   foo
> (b) Sender contains   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (c) Message Body contains bork
> 
> Logical expression: [((a&b)|c)|(~b&c)]

This would be _great_.  It could be hidden behind some "Advanced" button
so as not to confuse most people.  For most people the simple "any or
all" strategy is fine, so it may not be necessary to build a full
boolean expression builder in the GUI.

If a GUI is what we want, then it may be enough just to have an "OR"
button with the ability to reorder and perhaps duplicate the rules in
the filter (and vfolder editor).  So you have something like:

   Recipients   contains  foo
   Sender   contains  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 OR
   Recipients   contains  foo
   Sender   DOES NOT contain  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Jason.


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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Jason Tackaberry

> > * Similar to the above, when I manually move a message to
> >   another folder, can I have it automatically expunged?
> 
> Yes, by clicking 'expunge'.

I'm not sure what you think I mean by "automatically," but having to
click expunge isn't what I mean by automatically expunging. ;)

At any rate ...

> You could just turn on 'hide deleted messages' which is probably what
> you really want but dont realise.

 ... this _is_ in fact what I wanted. :) 

> Not with the gui, you could try writing raw expressions.

Aha!  Nice to know this can be done.  I will start playing with that.

Thanks for the help.

Jason.


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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread NotZed

> 
> I have a few nitpicks with Evolutions right now, and I'm wondering if
> any of these things are possible?  Perhaps I overlooked some
> configuration options ...
> 
> * When a filter is applied that moves a message to another
>   folder, the original message is left in my inbox but marked as
>   deleted.  How do I expunge that message from the folder once
>   it's moved?

You click on 'expunge'

> * Similar to the above, when I manually move a message to
>   another folder, can I have it automatically expunged?

Yes, by clicking 'expunge'.

Youcould just turn on 'hide deleted messages' which is probably what
you really want but dont realise.

> * The default search type is "Message contains" but I find
>   myself 99% of the time using "Sender contains."  Is there a
>   way to change the default?

Edit ~/evolution/searches.xml and change the order.

> Also, as I begin to use vfolders, I find myself wanting the ability to
> do full boolean queries ((a && b) || (c && d), say).  Is this planned
> for future versions?

Not with the gui, you could try writing raw expressions.

> Thanks for a truly awesome email client.  (The only one that has managed
> to make me switch from Mutt.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Jason.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Paul Oliver

Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:

> On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 14:05, Jason Tackaberry wrote:


>>* The default search type is "Message contains" but I find
>>  myself 99% of the time using "Sender contains."  Is there a
>>  way to change the default?
>>
> 
> I think the default should probably be Sender Contains, it used to be
> but then Message Contains got stuffed in there by someone - not really
> the most useful search to be the default imho. Sender Contains would be
> a much better default, Subject Contains would be another possibly good
> runner-up.


You know, I don't know about the speed issues and difficulty here, but
I really like how Mozilla's latest mail client has "Subject or Sender
contains".  I think that would be the most user-friendly way to do it.

Paul





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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 14:05, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> I have a few nitpicks with Evolutions right now, and I'm wondering if
> any of these things are possible?  Perhaps I overlooked some
> configuration options ...
> 
> * When a filter is applied that moves a message to another
>   folder, the original message is left in my inbox but marked as
>   deleted.  How do I expunge that message from the folder once
>   it's moved?

Actions / Expunge ;-)

> * Similar to the above, when I manually move a message to
>   another folder, can I have it automatically expunged?

Not for 1.0, maybe for a future version (there's already bug reports
related to this)

> * The default search type is "Message contains" but I find
>   myself 99% of the time using "Sender contains."  Is there a
>   way to change the default?

I think the default should probably be Sender Contains, it used to be
but then Message Contains got stuffed in there by someone - not really
the most useful search to be the default imho. Sender Contains would be
a much better default, Subject Contains would be another possibly good
runner-up.

> 
> Also, as I begin to use vfolders, I find myself wanting the ability to
> do full boolean queries ((a && b) || (c && d), say).  Is this planned
> for future versions?

The problem is that this is hard to do in the UI, the backend already
fully supports it.

Jeff

> 
> Thanks for a truly awesome email client.  (The only one that has managed
> to make me switch from Mutt.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Jason.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Tristan Gross

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 13:05, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> I have a few nitpicks with Evolutions right now, and I'm wondering if
> any of these things are possible?  Perhaps I overlooked some
> configuration options ...
> 
> * When a filter is applied that moves a message to another
>   folder, the original message is left in my inbox but marked as
>   deleted.  How do I expunge that message from the folder once
>   it's moved?

Do you have Menu -> View -> Hide Deleted Messages selected?

> * Similar to the above, when I manually move a message to
>   another folder, can I have it automatically expunged?

See above.  When you empty the trash it will go away.  This is quite
safe and makes it easy to recover from delete key accidents. without an
"undo"


> * The default search type is "Message contains" but I find
>   myself 99% of the time using "Sender contains."  Is there a
>   way to change the default?

Dunno.

> 
> Also, as I begin to use vfolders, I find myself wanting the ability to
> do full boolean queries ((a && b) || (c && d), say).  Is this planned
> for future versions?
> 
> Thanks for a truly awesome email client.  (The only one that has managed
> to make me switch from Mutt.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Jason.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Dan Winship

> Also, as I begin to use vfolders, I find myself wanting the ability to
> do full boolean queries ((a && b) || (c && d), say).  Is this planned
> for future versions?

Maybe. The gui would have to be obnoxious...

One way you can do this now though is to make a vfolder E showing (a &&
B) and a vfolder F showing (c && d) and then (E || F) should have what
you want.

-- Dan

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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 14:59, Benjamin Kahn wrote:
>   It sort of sounds like you want to turn on: "Hide Deleted Messages"
> which can be found in the View menu.

Yes indeed.  It's not quite the same, but as far as behaviour goes, it's
certainly good enough.

Thanks for the tip.

Regards,
Jason.


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Re: [Evolution] Features possible?

2001-11-28 Thread Jason Tackaberry

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 14:05, Jason Tackaberry wrote:
> * The default search type is "Message contains" but I find
>   myself 99% of the time using "Sender contains."  Is there a
>   way to change the default?

To answer my own question, all I had to do was edit searches.xml and
rearrange the order so that "Sender contains" was first.  Simple enough!

Cheers,
Jason.


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