Re: [Evolution] Some attachments don't show up in evolution.

2002-04-26 Thread John Weber

My original post to this thread referenced the example on the Ximian
users list. I didn't want to forward a virus to this list.

I think the answer I'm getting is that there are changes being made to
evolution that may fix this in a future version (?)

Thanks, 
John

On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 23:49, Not Zed wrote:
 
 It could be related though.  a multipart/related base part that doesn't
 reference the parts that follow.  Without seeing the mail I cant' really
 say though.  The 'attachment' icon is determined pretty simply too,
 based on the type of parts in a multipart, it ins't always accurate.
 
 That multipart/related fix didn't make it into stable afaik either.
 
 On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 00:15, Dan Winship wrote:
  On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 10:23, John Weber wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I curious as to why some attachments (seems to be the virus ones on the
   Ximian users list) don't show up in evolution (1.0.3)
  
  Several of the recent Outlook viruses have mangled MIME syntax to
  trigger various Outlook bugs. Evolution is doing its best to display the
  message according to the inconsistent description it's given.
  
  There was a problem that messages composed in rich text mode in
  Outlook and then auto-converted to HTML by Exchange would show up
  without the attachments in Evolution (because Evolution was displaying
  what the message *said* to display instead of what it *meant* to be
  displayed). That's definitely fixed in Evolution 1.2 (and hacked around
  in Connector 1.0), but I don't remember if the fix made it into
  Evolution 1.0. But this is probably not what you're seeing if you're
  talking about virus mails.
  
  -- Dan
  
  
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Re: [Evolution] Some attachments don't show up in evolution.

2002-04-26 Thread Larry Ewing

In the example you gave the only thing that is supposed to be showing up
is a 0x0 inline frame (an iframe).  Trust me it is showing up.  The
part that claims it is wave file is referenced by the iframe so
evolution doesn't show a save widget for that part, this is same way it
treats inline images.  This is a very reasonable way to interpret this
intentionally broken message.

One way I can think of that might improve the situation is to check the
mime type of the part and compare it to the mime type that gtkhtml
requests on that stream, see the difference and add the the save part
widget since it doesn't match.  On the other hand I'm not sure if it is
really worth the effort.

--Larry

On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 09:27, John Weber wrote:
 My original post to this thread referenced the example on the Ximian
 users list. I didn't want to forward a virus to this list.
 
 I think the answer I'm getting is that there are changes being made to
 evolution that may fix this in a future version (?)
 
 Thanks, 
 John
 
 On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 23:49, Not Zed wrote:
  
  It could be related though.  a multipart/related base part that doesn't
  reference the parts that follow.  Without seeing the mail I cant' really
  say though.  The 'attachment' icon is determined pretty simply too,
  based on the type of parts in a multipart, it ins't always accurate.
  
  That multipart/related fix didn't make it into stable afaik either.
  
  On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 00:15, Dan Winship wrote:
   On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 10:23, John Weber wrote:
Hi,

I curious as to why some attachments (seems to be the virus ones on the
Ximian users list) don't show up in evolution (1.0.3)
   
   Several of the recent Outlook viruses have mangled MIME syntax to
   trigger various Outlook bugs. Evolution is doing its best to display the
   message according to the inconsistent description it's given.
   
   There was a problem that messages composed in rich text mode in
   Outlook and then auto-converted to HTML by Exchange would show up
   without the attachments in Evolution (because Evolution was displaying
   what the message *said* to display instead of what it *meant* to be
   displayed). That's definitely fixed in Evolution 1.2 (and hacked around
   in Connector 1.0), but I don't remember if the fix made it into
   Evolution 1.0. But this is probably not what you're seeing if you're
   talking about virus mails.
   
   -- Dan
   
   
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Re: [Evolution] Some attachments don't show up in evolution.

2002-04-26 Thread Not Zed


It could be related though.  a multipart/related base part that doesn't
reference the parts that follow.  Without seeing the mail I cant' really
say though.  The 'attachment' icon is determined pretty simply too,
based on the type of parts in a multipart, it ins't always accurate.

That multipart/related fix didn't make it into stable afaik either.

On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 00:15, Dan Winship wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 10:23, John Weber wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I curious as to why some attachments (seems to be the virus ones on the
  Ximian users list) don't show up in evolution (1.0.3)
 
 Several of the recent Outlook viruses have mangled MIME syntax to
 trigger various Outlook bugs. Evolution is doing its best to display the
 message according to the inconsistent description it's given.
 
 There was a problem that messages composed in rich text mode in
 Outlook and then auto-converted to HTML by Exchange would show up
 without the attachments in Evolution (because Evolution was displaying
 what the message *said* to display instead of what it *meant* to be
 displayed). That's definitely fixed in Evolution 1.2 (and hacked around
 in Connector 1.0), but I don't remember if the fix made it into
 Evolution 1.0. But this is probably not what you're seeing if you're
 talking about virus mails.
 
 -- Dan
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] Some attachments don't show up in evolution.

2002-04-26 Thread John Weber

Well, I guess 0x0 IS hard to see :) I'm trying to understand why pine
can see these attachments OK. Not that it matters much, but I get
curious. FYI pine list these attachments as (possibly from a different
virus email than the one I mentioned)...

   1 ~4 lines Text/HTML   
   2 98 KB  Audio/X-WAV
   3  0 lines Text/PLAIN
   48.8 KB  Application/OCTET-STREAM (Name: WATERMRK.JPG) 

While evolution tells me nothing (unless I read the source). 

Thanks for the info and I'm not too worried about it. 

Is there a stand alone utility to decode/save these if I were to save
the attachment segments from the message source?

John

On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 10:14, Larry Ewing wrote:
 In the example you gave the only thing that is supposed to be showing up
 is a 0x0 inline frame (an iframe).  Trust me it is showing up.  The
 part that claims it is wave file is referenced by the iframe so
 evolution doesn't show a save widget for that part, this is same way it
 treats inline images.  This is a very reasonable way to interpret this
 intentionally broken message.
 
 One way I can think of that might improve the situation is to check the
 mime type of the part and compare it to the mime type that gtkhtml
 requests on that stream, see the difference and add the the save part
 widget since it doesn't match.  On the other hand I'm not sure if it is
 really worth the effort.
 
 --Larry

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Re: [Evolution] Some attachments don't show up in evolution.

2002-04-26 Thread John Weber

On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 14:57, John Weber wrote:

 Is there a stand alone utility to decode/save these if I were to save
 the attachment segments from the message source?


To answer my own question...mimencode -u seems to work if I cut the
different segments out of the message source.

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Re: [Evolution] Some attachments don't show up in evolution.

2002-04-25 Thread Dan Winship

On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 10:23, John Weber wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I curious as to why some attachments (seems to be the virus ones on the
 Ximian users list) don't show up in evolution (1.0.3)

Several of the recent Outlook viruses have mangled MIME syntax to
trigger various Outlook bugs. Evolution is doing its best to display the
message according to the inconsistent description it's given.

There was a problem that messages composed in rich text mode in
Outlook and then auto-converted to HTML by Exchange would show up
without the attachments in Evolution (because Evolution was displaying
what the message *said* to display instead of what it *meant* to be
displayed). That's definitely fixed in Evolution 1.2 (and hacked around
in Connector 1.0), but I don't remember if the fix made it into
Evolution 1.0. But this is probably not what you're seeing if you're
talking about virus mails.

-- Dan


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