Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
I hereby allow you to relicense all the code I wrote for evolution and evolution-data-server under the terms of the LGPL v2 and LGPL v3. This includes the code that supports addressbooks on a webdav server and all other code I have contributed to evolution. Greetings, Matze Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 04:21 -0600 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan: > Hello guys, > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. > > We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution > a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution > to great heights. > > Thanks for your contributions and support. > > -Srini. > ___ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
I hereby allow you to relicense all the code I wrote for evolution and evolution-data-server under the terms of the LGPL v2 and LGPL v3. This includes the code that supports addressbooks on a webdav server and all other code I have contributed to evolution. Greetings, Matthias Braun Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 04:21 -0600 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan: > Hello guys, > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. > > We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution > a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution > to great heights. > > Thanks for your contributions and support. > > -Srini. > ___ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Am 11.07.2008 um 13:21 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan: Hello guys, We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution and we wanted to drop it. * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/ samba4 for the new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. So here is the plan : * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to contribute to Evolution * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all of the code. We will do the licensing/ header changes as we audit the code ownership situation. It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of Evolution code & object. We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution to great heights. Thanks for your contributions and support. Hi, I'm ok with relicensing all the code I have contributed to evolution and evolution-data-server as LGPL v2. Br, Jörgen ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > Hello guys, > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. You're free to convert the license to my Bogofilter plugin code, as well as any other patches I've committed to Evolution, to LGPL v2 or v3. I appreciate your efforts. Mikhail Zabaluev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI8zUlITXggnds20gRAgkDAJ9NMGV46ezPc3HeRNEG4eT3aFi7MQCfTbAc wqxFJaCD4NJU/szKbmyuASw= =KaCA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
> * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. I am told that you guys have found some of my code in Evolution that is gpl2 (only) and that you would like to have it re-licensed to dual lgpl2 (only) and lgpl3 (only). We are talking about code that arrived in Evolution via GAL, notably code in e-colors.c, e-table-col.c, and some table tests. There might very well be more. You are welcome to use that code and, in fact, any of my code that used to be in GAL under the dual lgpl2/lgpl3 license. Morten Welinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [svn id "mortenw"] ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a > piece of Evolution code & object. Permission granted for default-mailer plugin (and any other code I've contributed). Jonathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > Hello guys, > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a > piece of Evolution code & object. Permission granted for any pieces i've personally produced (those with a ChangeLog email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Regards, Rob ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
I remember sending an Evolution copyright assignment to Ximian. Just in case you also need my permission, but could not reach me via old email [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree to the re-licensing of any Evolution code I have written. Would be nice if you changed the email, or, if you are not aware of any code left, just remove me from contributors. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Permission granted to relicence my code (committed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Thanks, Philip On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > Hello guys, > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. > > We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution > a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution > to great heights. > > Thanks for your contributions and support. > > -Srini. > ___ > desktop-devel-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Srinivasa Ragavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello guys, > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. I have no problems with this license change on the code I wrote (under the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address). iain ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Hello On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 12:35 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a > > piece of Evolution code & object. > I have submitted very tiny bits, sorry, i do not remember which ones :( Permission granted for any code I've produced. > > Ross > ___ > Evolution-hackers mailing list > Evolution-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers -- Ritesh Khadgaray Ph: +919970164885 Desktop LinuX N Stuff, RHCE Software Maintenance Engineer, Pune, Red Hat ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Hi, [As Srini asked me to do this,] I approve the planned license change for all of the code I ever contributed to Evolution. Cheers, -Michael ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
2008-07-11 (금), 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan 쓰시길: > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to > invest in Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights > to re-license all of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes > as we audit the code ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a > piece of Evolution code & object. Permission granted for any pieces of code I have produced. Cheers, -- Changwoo Ryu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Hey Folks, On 11.07.2008 12:21 Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of Evolution code & object. Permission granted to relicense the code I've produced to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3". Cheers, Muelli signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 12:35 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a > > piece of Evolution code & object. > > Permission granted for any code I've produced. (note that this is code I've personally produced. Things like the DBus port are LGPL2 at present and we'll have to work this out shortly) Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://burtonini.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a > piece of Evolution code & object. Permission granted for any code I've produced. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://burtonini.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
And another one, who's been poked about this mail. Sorry, kind of missed it, despite discussing this at GUADEC. On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer > to Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. Permission granted for any pieces of code I've produced. guenther -- char *t="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}} ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Le vendredi 11 juillet 2008 à 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan a écrit : > Hello guys, > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. I give permission to relicense code written by me (Frederic Crozat) or any Mandriva / MandrakeSoft / Conectiva / Edge-IT / Linbox employee (done during their working time, ie submitted with a "pro" email address) to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3". -- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mandriva ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Hello, Apparently I've been told that I have some code in evolution, despite having no memory of it. Anyway, since I assume you guys know better than I do, I guess I do. So in that case, feel free to relicense any of my code as outlined below. George Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: Hello guys, We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution and we wanted to drop it. * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. So here is the plan : * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to contribute to Evolution * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code ownership situation. It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of Evolution code & object. We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution to great heights. Thanks for your contributions and support. -Srini. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list -- George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him. -- Voltaire ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
I was kindly asked for this: Permission granted for any pieces of code I've produced. Lucian Langa. > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for > some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way > looking for the future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of > limits contributions to Evolution and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of > Evolution with Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link > with libmapi/samba4 for the new mapi based connector being > developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it > really easy to contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to > let us re-use the code more easily around the platform. This > also moves us closer to Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we > continue to invest in Evolution. We are also working to ensure > we have the rights to re-license all of the code. We will do > the licensing/header changes as we audit the code ownership > situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit > mail with permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you > think you wrote a piece of Evolution code & object. > > We are really excited about this and we feel this would really > help Evolution a lot. We need your support now for making this > change and to take Evolution to great heights. > > Thanks for your contributions and support. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
After getting explicitly asked for this: Permission granted for any pieces of code I've produced. andre klapper Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 04:21 -0600 schrieb Srinivasa Ragavan: > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. > > We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution > a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution > to great heights. > > Thanks for your contributions and support. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Le samedi 16 août 2008 à 12:12 +0200, Kjartan Maraas a écrit :> > I didn't think my contributions were substantial enough to warrant this > but Michael poked me about it so here you go. Permission granted for any > pieces of code I've produced. Sankar got me on irc but I forgot to send a mail so here it is. Permission granted for any pieces of code I've produced. -- Gilles Dartiguelongue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
fr., 11.07.2008 kl. 04.21 -0600, skrev Srinivasa Ragavan: > Hello guys, > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. > I didn't think my contributions were substantial enough to warrant this but Michael poked me about it so here you go. Permission granted for any pieces of code I've produced. Cheers Kjartan ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
I just wanted to chime in and say AWESOME!!! :-) It is my hope that now that Evolution no longer requires assignment, that we'll see more developers get involved with improving it - who knows, maybe someone will even contribute an uber IMAP implementation? :-) Jeff (retired Evolution hacker) On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > Hello guys, > > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the > future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution > and we wanted to drop it. > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the > new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to > contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to > Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in > Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all > of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code > ownership situation. > > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of > Evolution code & object. > > We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution > a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution > to great heights. > > Thanks for your contributions and support. > > -Srini. > ___ > Evolution-hackers mailing list > Evolution-hackers@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 13:56 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Could you consider talking with the samba guys to make libmapi LGPLv3? > That would make things much easier, right? Yep - would make life easier; OTOH I've spoken to them in the past along these lines - but though they were initially interested some years ago, sadly I think they are less interested today. OTOH - it's always worth asking again I guess. HTH, Michael. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Patrick Ohly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: >> * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy >> to contribute to Evolution >> * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us >> re-use the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us >> closer to Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. > > This should be "LGPL v2.1 or later or GPL v3 or later". As long as the > code is not linked against libmapi (which is GPL3 as Paul B. pointed > out), the resulting binary can be released as LGPL. Code can be moved > from main Evolution into libs and vice versa, which wouldn't be the case > if the code of the executable is only licensed under the GPL. > > As soon as source is compiled into an executable which is also linked > against libmapi, then the resulting work and its source has to be > distributed under GPL3. The license of the Evolution source allows that, > so you are fine. The shared libraries can remain under LGPL: GPL > binaries can use LGPL libraries. Could you consider talking with the samba guys to make libmapi LGPLv3? That would make things much easier, right? -- Felipe Contreras ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 00:14 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Sure - but there are real problems persuading lawyers ... and developers ... > to license code > under a license that doesn't yet exist & that they havn't read :-) AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics is an operations and engineering consultancy focusing on IT strategy, organizational architecture, systems review, and effective procedures for change management. We actively carry out research and development in these areas on behalf of our clients, and enable successful use of open source in their mission critical enterprises, worldwide. http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ Sydney New York Toronto London signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Hi Paul, On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 12:46 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > Once you start accepting a significant amount of code without copyright > assignment, it will be difficult to the point of impossibility to change > the license again. Yes. Hence (in part) the choice of a more liberal / lesser license: that hopefully provides some safeguards here against future changes. > We can only assume that the FSF will, in the future, come out with a > GPLv4 and that this license will have its own set of incompatibilities > with the existing GPLv2 and GPLv3 licenses (ditto for LGPL of course). Sure; but it seems unlikely that the LGPLv4 will be incompatible with the LGPLv3 or v2 - the 'lesser' nature of course allow even proprietary software to be linked to these. > IMO, if a software project is going to accept code without assignment > then they really should be using the "LGPLvX or later" license > structure, rather than providing a list of acceptable licenses. Sure - but there are real problems persuading lawyers to license code under a license that doesn't yet exist & that they havn't read :-) HTH, Michael. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Hi Paul, On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 15:30 +0200, Paul Bolle wrote: > > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > > the code more easily around the platform. > > Did you mean LGPLv2 _or_ LGPLv3 here? Yes; it's dual licensed - which gives people rather a choice of licenses, GPLv2, GPLv3, LGPLv2, LGPLv3 etc. > Anyway, I am not familiar with libmapi, but it does indeed seem to be > (what is commonly referred to as) a library that is licensed under the > GPLv3. According to the FSF you can't release a project under the LGPLv2 > or LGPLv3 if you want to use a library under GPLv3. You'll have to > convert your LGPLv2 or LGPLv3 code to the GPLv3 [1]. Sure - so, IANAL etc. however I don't see a problem with a LGPLv3 / GPLv3 for the samba piece - I imagine, linking that in as a plugin makes Evo, with the current structure as a whole GPLv3; but without it potentially LGPLv2/GPLv2/LGPLv3 :-) AFAICS that gives some flexibility; but of course it's possible there are yet further un-anticipated problems ? :-) In the longer term, I'd prefer to see the samba piece isolated into a separate process. HTH, Michael. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some > time like : > > * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for > the future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to > Evolution and we wanted to drop it. I agree with Paul S. that this can become problematic during later license changes. I suggest to either got for a "LGPL 2.1 or later" license (thus basically choosing GNU licenses forever) or changing the copyright agreement so that the copyright is transferred to some independent, non-profit organization instead of Novell. The GNU foundation perhaps? > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 > for the new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. > > So here is the plan : > > * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy > to contribute to Evolution > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us > re-use the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us > closer to Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. This should be "LGPL v2.1 or later or GPL v3 or later". As long as the code is not linked against libmapi (which is GPL3 as Paul B. pointed out), the resulting binary can be released as LGPL. Code can be moved from main Evolution into libs and vice versa, which wouldn't be the case if the code of the executable is only licensed under the GPL. As soon as source is compiled into an executable which is also linked against libmapi, then the resulting work and its source has to be distributed under GPL3. The license of the Evolution source allows that, so you are fine. The shared libraries can remain under LGPL: GPL binaries can use LGPL libraries. > It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with > permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a > piece of Evolution code & object. I haven't contributed much code and when I did, it was with copyright transfer. So no objections from my side. -- Bye, Patrick Ohly -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.estamos.de/ ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
> * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. I'm a little concerned with this plan in conjunction with the "getting rid of copyright assignment" plan. Once you start accepting a significant amount of code without copyright assignment, it will be difficult to the point of impossibility to change the license again. We can only assume that the FSF will, in the future, come out with a GPLv4 and that this license will have its own set of incompatibilities with the existing GPLv2 and GPLv3 licenses (ditto for LGPL of course). So, if you change the license to "LGPLv2 or LGPLv3", then you'll be right back where you are now when LGPLv4 is released, AND you won't have the right copyright controls you do now that allow you to resolve the problem. IMO, if a software project is going to accept code without assignment then they really should be using the "LGPLvX or later" license structure, rather than providing a list of acceptable licenses. Either that, or resign yourself to FOREVER using ONLY the licenses you've listed, come what may--dangerous IMO! ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
Re: [Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 04:21 -0600, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with > Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 > for the new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. [...] > * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use > the code more easily around the platform. Did you mean LGPLv2 _or_ LGPLv3 here? Anyway, I am not familiar with libmapi, but it does indeed seem to be (what is commonly referred to as) a library that is licensed under the GPLv3. According to the FSF you can't release a project under the LGPLv2 or LGPLv3 if you want to use a library under GPLv3. You'll have to convert your LGPLv2 or LGPLv3 code to the GPLv3 [1]. So, if I'm reading your plan and the FSF GPL faq correctly, your plan wouldn't work (as far as libmapi is concerned). Am I reading your plan and the faq correctly? Regards, Paul Bolle [1] http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers
[Evolution-hackers] Evolution: Taking forward...
Hello guys, We have had a set of problems that we are carrying around for some time like : * Copyright assignments, which is not the best way looking for the future of Evolution. It sucks and sort of limits contributions to Evolution and we wanted to drop it. * The current licensing incompatibility issues of Evolution with Samba4/libmapi (GPLv3). Evolution needs to link with libmapi/samba4 for the new mapi based connector being developed for Exchange 2007. So here is the plan : * Drop Evolution copyright assignments and make it really easy to contribute to Evolution * Move Evolution licensing to "LGPL v2 and LGPL v3" to let us re-use the code more easily around the platform. This also moves us closer to Thunderbird's MPL/LGPL model. We think this is good for Evolution and (of course) we continue to invest in Evolution. We are also working to ensure we have the rights to re-license all of the code. We will do the licensing/header changes as we audit the code ownership situation. It would be really helpful if you can post a public/explicit mail with permissions to do it, or code pointers - if you think you wrote a piece of Evolution code & object. We are really excited about this and we feel this would really help Evolution a lot. We need your support now for making this change and to take Evolution to great heights. Thanks for your contributions and support. -Srini. ___ Evolution-hackers mailing list Evolution-hackers@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers