Re: [Evolution-hackers] Gnome 3.0 delay Evo?

2010-07-29 Thread Milan Crha
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 01:23 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 I wonder if Matthew or Milan or anyone have any thoughts on what the
 delay in Gnome 3.0 means for Evolution.

Hi,
it means couple things, all positive. More work can be done, more
testing can be done, less time pressure. 

 Is the current git master buildable and usable without Gnome 3.0
 components?  Do you expect distros to build and ship both Gnome 2.x and
 3.0 versions, to make transitions simpler?

As far as I know most people are running evo with gtk2, but I have gtk2
on my main machine, and gtk3 on the other. Of course, testing with gtk3
is more appreciated (I have one crasher there already, though to be
filled and fixed), thus also bugs/changes in gtk3 will be spotted on
time. (I guess it doesn't answer your questions much) :)

Let's see what's Chen's and Matthew's (module maintainers) idea on this.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Gnome 3.0 delay Evo?

2010-07-29 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 01:23 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 I wonder if Matthew or Milan or anyone have any thoughts on what the
 delay in Gnome 3.0 means for Evolution.
 
 Is the current git master buildable and usable without Gnome 3.0
 components?  Do you expect distros to build and ship both Gnome 2.x and
 3.0 versions, to make transitions simpler?

We are already retaining GTK+ 2.x compatibility for MeeGo, so you can
still build all Evolution-related modules in a GNOME 2.30 environment.
Each module has an --enable-gtk3 configure option ('no' by default)
which selects an appropriate set of library dependencies.  All the
modules have to agree on this setting, however.

I had very much wanted to drop the GTK+ 2.x compatibility after
September's release, but I guess that's more of an open question now.

Since yesterday's announcement I've already made appropriate changes to
the wiki and to our code.  Beyond that I don't see much impact to our
development plan, other than having an extra six months now to complete
our stated goals:

http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning232

The question of what distros should ship would be better posed to the
GNOME release team, although from what they've said publicly so far I
don't think even they have a clear picture.  Fedora 14 is moving full
steam ahead with a GTK+ 3.0 based desktop.  Ubuntu had already stated
their fear and uncertainty over GTK+ 3.0 even before yesterday, so I
imagine they'll stay with GTK+ 2.x.  I don't know what other distros
have planned.  But Evolution 2.32 should be usable for everyone.

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[Evolution-hackers] Gnome 3.0 delay Evo?

2010-07-28 Thread Paul Smith
I wonder if Matthew or Milan or anyone have any thoughts on what the
delay in Gnome 3.0 means for Evolution.

Is the current git master buildable and usable without Gnome 3.0
components?  Do you expect distros to build and ship both Gnome 2.x and
3.0 versions, to make transitions simpler?

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