Re: [Evolution] Scrolling Messages - Ahhh Driving Me Crazy
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 20:24 -0400, Rick Bragg wrote: > I have been using Evolution for MANY years, and I remember a time way > back when; I would click inside an email message and hit "page up" or > "page down" and it would scroll the message as expected. > > This was many years ago. I don't know what happened but for many years > since, when I do this, it jumps to another message! > > This has been driving me so crazy, I need to be able to scroll inside > long messages with the keyboard! > > Does anybody have a solution to this, or know why this behavior has > changed so many years ago and was never fixed? Hi, I tried to do it in 2.31.90 and it works as expected, Page Up/Down scrolls the message preview, if it is focused. I cannot find a bug number for it or a commit, but I recall seeing something like this. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Alternative shortcuts/external editor?
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 09:13 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:43 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:11 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 01:01 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > > Also, and relatedly, with all bonobo dependencies removed does that > > > > mean external editors and the like would be possible now? (possible > > > > meaning infrastructure-wise, obviously someone would also have to code > > > > it) > > > > > > IIRC that's one of the features of 2.31. > > > > > > poc > > > > if you're building from source head, you can cd into the ...*/plugins > > directory and make; make installthe external editor plugin. > > Ah, so my partially-remembered bonobo-related information had SOME basis > after all =). Thanks guys. AFAIK 2.32 is released in a couple of months > anyway so I'll probably wait for my distro to package it. Hi, external-editor plugin is part of 2.30 too, go to Edit->Plugins and try to find it there. Though if it's an experimental plugin (which I do not recall), then maybe your distro doesn't compile it. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Scrolling Messages - Ahhh Driving Me Crazy
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 10:12 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 20:24 -0400, Rick Bragg wrote: > > I have been using Evolution for MANY years, and I remember a time way > > back when; I would click inside an email message and hit "page up" or > > "page down" and it would scroll the message as expected. > > > > This was many years ago. I don't know what happened but for many years > > since, when I do this, it jumps to another message! > > > > This has been driving me so crazy, I need to be able to scroll inside > > long messages with the keyboard! > > > > Does anybody have a solution to this, or know why this behavior has > > changed so many years ago and was never fixed? > > Hi, > I tried to do it in 2.31.90 and it works as expected, Page Up/Down > scrolls the message preview, if it is focused. I cannot find a bug > number for it or a commit, but I recall seeing something like this. > Bye, > Milan Perhaps Rick is observing the behaviour that is driving me crazy ;-) If you set focus on the message pane and then delete the message or move to next message, the focus shifts from the message pane to the message list. When you hit page down/up then, of course the undesirable happens. I filed a comment against a bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620602 but didn't file a new bug (should I have done?), anyway there has been no further comment there from the devs. G -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Alternative shortcuts/external editor?
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 10:26 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 09:13 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:43 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:11 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 01:01 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > > > Also, and relatedly, with all bonobo dependencies removed does that > > > > > mean external editors and the like would be possible now? (possible > > > > > meaning infrastructure-wise, obviously someone would also have to code > > > > > it) > > > > > > > > IIRC that's one of the features of 2.31. > > > > > > > > poc > > > > > > if you're building from source head, you can cd into the ...*/plugins > > > directory and make; make installthe external editor plugin. > > > > Ah, so my partially-remembered bonobo-related information had SOME basis > > after all =). Thanks guys. AFAIK 2.32 is released in a couple of months > > anyway so I'll probably wait for my distro to package it. > > Hi, > external-editor plugin is part of 2.30 too, go to Edit->Plugins and try > to find it there. Though if it's an experimental plugin (which I do not > recall), then maybe your distro doesn't compile it. > Bye, > Milan > Not available here, I'll take a look at my distro's package to see if its just a simple compile-option away =). Thanks Milan. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Scrolling Messages - Ahhh Driving Me Crazy
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 09:29 +0100, Gavin Simpson wrote: > Perhaps Rick is observing the behaviour that is driving me crazy ;-) If > you set focus on the message pane and then delete the message or move to > next message, the focus shifts from the message pane to the message > list. When you hit page down/up then, of course the undesirable happens. > I filed a comment against a bug: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620602 Hi, ah, I see, I understood Rick's message as "PageUp/Down doesn't work at all, when message preview is focused", and yours is slightly different. I see the request in your bug (Next/prev shortcuts should focus message list), is against this PageUp/Down in preview panel, at least partly. Maybe if it focuses message list only when not in the preview panel, might work for you and for the bug #620602. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Alternative shortcuts/external editor?
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 10:26 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 09:13 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:43 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:11 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 01:01 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > > > Also, and relatedly, with all bonobo dependencies removed does that > > > > > mean external editors and the like would be possible now? (possible > > > > > meaning infrastructure-wise, obviously someone would also have to code > > > > > it) > > > > > > > > IIRC that's one of the features of 2.31. > > > > > > > > poc > > > > > > if you're building from source head, you can cd into the ...*/plugins > > > directory and make; make installthe external editor plugin. > > > > Ah, so my partially-remembered bonobo-related information had SOME basis > > after all =). Thanks guys. AFAIK 2.32 is released in a couple of months > > anyway so I'll probably wait for my distro to package it. > > Hi, > external-editor plugin is part of 2.30 too, go to Edit->Plugins and try > to find it there. Though if it's an experimental plugin (which I do not > recall), then maybe your distro doesn't compile it. Not available here (Fedora 13), at least in the standard repos. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Alternative shortcuts/external editor?
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 11:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 10:26 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 09:13 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:43 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 16:11 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 01:01 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > > > > Also, and relatedly, with all bonobo dependencies removed does that > > > > > > mean external editors and the like would be possible now? (possible > > > > > > meaning infrastructure-wise, obviously someone would also have to > > > > > > code > > > > > > it) > > > > > > > > > > IIRC that's one of the features of 2.31. > > > > > > > > > > poc > > > > > > > > if you're building from source head, you can cd into the ...*/plugins > > > > directory and make; make installthe external editor plugin. > > > > > > Ah, so my partially-remembered bonobo-related information had SOME basis > > > after all =). Thanks guys. AFAIK 2.32 is released in a couple of months > > > anyway so I'll probably wait for my distro to package it. > > > > Hi, > > external-editor plugin is part of 2.30 too, go to Edit->Plugins and try > > to find it there. Though if it's an experimental plugin (which I do not > > recall), then maybe your distro doesn't compile it. > > Not available here (Fedora 13), at least in the standard repos. > > poc > A quick google did show evolution-plugins-experimental as an Ubuntu package. I think I'll just wait till its 'built-in', if its actually happening on 2.32. Not too far away after all. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Alternative shortcuts/external editor?
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 11:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > external-editor plugin is part of 2.30 too, go to Edit->Plugins and try > > to find it there. Though if it's an experimental plugin (which I do not > > recall), then maybe your distro doesn't compile it. > > Not available here (Fedora 13), at least in the standard repos. Experimental plugins are a set of half-baked, bit rotted or abandoned plugins in our source tree that we would rather not support right now but still show some potential. In this case I think the external-editor plugin just needs a little UI love and some testing. If any hackers in the audience are interested in giving it some polish, talk to me. I don't think it's on any developer's agenda right now. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] RFE: How about a Show Thread operation?
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 04:05 +0200, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 26.08.2010, 00:19 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > In mailing-list folders, especially high-traffic ones, I don't usually > > have All Messages selected in the Show drop-down menu. It might be New, > > or Last 5 Days, or some label. Nevertheless I do sometimes want to see > > the context of a message (usually a new one but not always). IOW I want > > to see the thread the message belongs to. > > > > Currently the only way to be sure of getting everything is to select All > > Messages. It would be nice to have the option of showing all messages in > > the thread to which the current message belongs. I guess a really fancy > > version would be to show *only* the thread (those familiar with Emacs > > and its concept of "narrowing" will know what I mean), but it doesn't > > need to be that elaborate. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > a) Select the subject of the message, paste it into the search field and > select all messages in the show drop down box. No good, because it will catch anything with the same subject (in fact anything of which that subject is a substring). Subjects do not define threads. It's also laborious. > b) Use the context menu to create a search folder, using e.g. the > subject as criterion. I don't want to create a search folder every time I need to glance at the context of a message. And again, it's laborious. Note that we already have Ctrl-H (select thread) so it's not like Evo doesn't have the machinery for this, however Ctrl-H only selects messages which are visible according to the Show: criterion. In fact a kludge solution would be to make Ctrl-H always select from the entire current folder. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Alternative shortcuts/external editor?
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 12:57 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > Experimental plugins are a set of half-baked, bit rotted or abandoned > plugins in our source tree that we would rather not support right now > but still show some potential. In this case I think the external-editor > plugin just needs a little UI love and some testing. > > If any hackers in the audience are interested in giving it some polish, > talk to me. I don't think it's on any developer's agenda right now. what's in git head for external-editor builds and works -- at least with regard to using gvim -f. I'm editing this response now in gvim. Note -- I don't have the plugin configured to start the external editor on every compose -- I just invoke it from the composer's File menu when I need vim's functionality in composing an email ( not really necessary for this response, but I did want to make sure that the build I did this morning didn't break it ) reid ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
