[Evolution] {Spam?} Re: Re: Need help migrating

2012-02-13 Thread Rick Bragg
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 20:45 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 Thomas Mittelstaedt píše v Pá 10. 02. 2012 v 20:04 +0100:
  Am Freitag, den 10.02.2012, 19:53 +0100 schrieb Thomas Mittelstaedt:
   Am Mittwoch, den 08.02.2012, 14:03 -0500 schrieb Joe Fitzmyer:
I have a user in our company that recently was given a new machine 
running 
Mint 12. Previously he had been using a distribution that used 
Evolution 
2.0.3.

How can I migrate his data to the current Evolution 3.2.2? His older 
version 
does not support the Backup option. The file structures are somewhat 
different between the two versions.

Thanks for any insight.
   
   Well, since it's such an old version, I'd suggest, your user should
   start afresh with evolution 3.2.2 and import the old data using the
   import-feature in the new version. I hope this is not too cumbersome.
 
 It will be. The importer is quite limited when it comes to intelligent
 behavior / avoiding to specify the files to import one by one.
 
   Maybe, there exists a plug-in which can import more than one mbox-file
   or more than one calendar file.

  
  Well, or you could just save the old data into a tar.gz archive and use
  the backup-restore feature of the new version.
 
 2.0 did not have any Backup functionality (plus only data without
 settings will not help), plus file locations have changed...
 
 I would follow the steps described in
 https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#How_can_I_completely_backup_evolution.3F
 and
 https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#How_can_I_transfer_all_my_Evolution_data_from_an_old_home_directory_to_a_new_home_directory.3F
 
 Starting Evolution 2.32.x should (hopefully) automatically
 transfer/convert the existing data to the new storage locations
 described in
 http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/data-storage.html
 
 andre

I'm having a similar problem.  Is there a way to import contact data
into 3.2.2?  It seems that the import tool only works for mail and
calendars.
Rick



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[Evolution] {Spam?} Import Contact Lists

2012-02-13 Thread Rick Bragg
Is there any way at all to import contact lists in evolution 3.2.2.?  I
have my contacts from version 2.28 in a .db file but it seems there is
no way to import them.
Rick



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[Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Paulo Crespi

Dear John, dear Adam, 

I ran into the same problem after 
upgrading to evolution 3.2.1 on OpenSuse 12.1 and KDE 4.7.2. After many 
(in my opinion useless) attempts to solve the keyring issue, I 
eventually deleted gconf, restarted evolution and set up my mail 
accounts. As expected Evolution created new config files and from then 
on everything went more or less fine. With or without seahorse or 
keyring daemon installed. I may be mistaken, but it seems Evolution does
 not override the gnome configuration properly. I hope this is helpful. 

Best regards

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[Evolution] {Spam?} Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Contact List

2012-02-13 Thread Rick Bragg
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:56 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 09:58 -0500, Rick Bragg wrote:
   You are now using Ubuntu 11.10 which wasn't mentioned yet in your
  steps.
   
   andre
  
  Hi Andre,
  Sorry, I got the numbers all mixed up.  I'm not doing too well today;)
  Yes it is Ubuntu distro, and the version I starting with is 10.10,
  then
  upgraded to 11.04, then upgraded again to 11.10.
 
 Please use Evolution version numbers (see Help-About). Many people on
 this list don't even use Ubuntu, so Ubuntu numbers are meaningless.
 
 poc
 
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I'm now using evolution 3.2.2. I upgraded from version 2.8.  Is there
any way to import my contacts?

Rick




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Re: [Evolution] {Spam?} Re: Re: Need help migrating

2012-02-13 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 18:57 -0500, Rick Bragg wrote:
 I'm having a similar problem.

What makes similar different from the same?

 Is there a way to import contact data into 3.2.2?  It seems that the
 import tool only works for mail and calendars.

Depends on formats. :)
Please elaborate by telling what you did, what you have, and what you
would like to do.

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Re: [Evolution] {Spam?} Import Contact Lists

2012-02-13 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 20:34 +, Rick Bragg wrote:
 Is there any way at all to import contact lists in evolution 3.2.2.?  I
 have my contacts from version 2.28 in a .db file but it seems there is
 no way to import them.

No, there is no direct way in the user interface according to
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439993

By any chance you didn't use Evolution's Backup/Restore function, did
you?

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Re: [Evolution] {Spam?} Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Contact List

2012-02-13 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 18:55 -0500, Rick Bragg wrote:
 I'm now using evolution 3.2.2. I upgraded from version 2.8.  Is there
 any way to import my contacts?

In the other thread you wrote 2.28. I answered in the other thread as
you provided more information than just import my contacts. :)
In general, please avoid posting the same question several times.

Thanks,
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[Evolution] Empathy hangs; Empathy or Evolution Issue?

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
Occasionally my Empathy window opens but is blank (list not
contact/buddies) and the Empathy application appears to be hung
[unresponsive].  But Evolution is working.

If I run Empathy from the command line I see the message -

(empathy:5901): folks-WARNING **: Error preparing persona store
'eds:1272120085.3375.5@linux-yu4c': Couldn't open address book
‘1272120085.3375.5@linux-yu4c’: Cannot open book: Cannot process, book
backend is opening

(empathy:5901): folks-WARNING **: Error preparing persona store
'eds:1327420330.3965...@linux-dauq.site': Couldn't open address book
‘1327420330.3965...@linux-dauq.site’: Cannot open book: Cannot process,
book backend is opening

So any guesses on who I first pursue as the culrpit?  Evolution or
Empathy?

evolution-3.2.1-2.2.2.x86_64
empathy-3.2.1.1-1.1.2.x86_64
gnome-contacts-3.2.2-1.2.x86_64
glibc-2.14.1-14.18.1.x86_64
3.1.9-1.4-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT x86_64


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Re: [Evolution] Empathy hangs; Empathy or Evolution Issue?

2012-02-13 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 09:03 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 If I run Empathy from the command line I see the message -
 
 (empathy:5901): folks-WARNING **: Error preparing persona store
 'eds:1272120085.3375.5@linux-yu4c': Couldn't open address book
 ‘1272120085.3375.5@linux-yu4c’: Cannot open book: Cannot process, book
 backend is opening
 
 (empathy:5901): folks-WARNING **: Error preparing persona store
 'eds:1327420330.3965...@linux-dauq.site': Couldn't open address book
 ‘1327420330.3965...@linux-dauq.site’: Cannot open book: Cannot process,
 book backend is opening

Do you only get that output when Empathy hangs, or always?

 So any guesses on who I first pursue as the culrpit?  Evolution or
 Empathy?

If at all, it's evolution-data-server and not Evolution. ;-)

See https://live.gnome.org/Empathy/Debugging how to provide more info
for the Empathy mailing list.

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Re: [Evolution] Empathy hangs; Empathy or Evolution Issue?

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 15:21 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 09:03 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
  If I run Empathy from the command line I see the message -
  (empathy:5901): folks-WARNING **: Error preparing persona store
  'eds:1272120085.3375.5@linux-yu4c': Couldn't open address book
  ‘1272120085.3375.5@linux-yu4c’: Cannot open book: Cannot process, book
  backend is opening
  (empathy:5901): folks-WARNING **: Error preparing persona store
  'eds:1327420330.3965...@linux-dauq.site': Couldn't open address book
  ‘1327420330.3965...@linux-dauq.site’: Cannot open book: Cannot process,
  book backend is opening
 Do you only get that output when Empathy hangs, or always?
  So any guesses on who I first pursue as the culrpit?  Evolution or
  Empathy?
 If at all, it's evolution-data-server and not Evolution. ;-)

Yea, I'm pretty sure it is e-addressbook-factory.  I can hang all of
gnome-shell by clicking on one of the WebDAV address books defined in
Evolution.   If I switch to a console, kill e-addressbook-factory, and
then kill gnome-shell; gnome-shell restarts/resumes and I'm OK again.
Then the address books work.  Hmmm...

 See https://live.gnome.org/Empathy/Debugging how to provide more info
 for the Empathy mailing list.

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Re: [Evolution] Empathy hangs; Empathy or Evolution Issue?

2012-02-13 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 15:21 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 If at all, it's evolution-data-server and not Evolution. ;-)

Right, Evolution and Empathy are just front-ends.  The real bug exists
in either one of the Evolution-Data-Server address book backends or in
libfolks, but I'd bet E-D-S.

Matthew Barnes

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Re: [Evolution] Empathy hangs; Empathy or Evolution Issue?

2012-02-13 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 09:22 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 Yea, I'm pretty sure it is e-addressbook-factory.  I can hang all of
 gnome-shell by clicking on one of the WebDAV address books defined in
 Evolution.   If I switch to a console, kill e-addressbook-factory, and
 then kill gnome-shell; gnome-shell restarts/resumes and I'm OK again.
 Then the address books work.  Hmmm... 

Hi,
maybe it's this one [1], part of 3.2.3 release.

The actual error means that some caller requested to open a backend,
since then the backend is in an opening phase, when the backend refuses
to do anything except of authenticating. If the initial caller either
failed to notify backend about do not know how to authenticate, or
failed to authenticate and didn't let the backend know, then the
backend, as part of the factory process, is still waiting for the
opening phase to be finished, by the client which invoked the open call.
One of the above issues addresses [1].
Hope that helps,
Milan

[1]
http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/commit/?h=gnome-3-2id=24a5ae3f9437

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Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:38 +0100, Paulo Crespi wrote:
 I ran into the same problem after upgrading to evolution 3.2.1 on
 OpenSuse 12.1 and KDE 4.7.2. After many (in my opinion useless)
 attempts to solve the keyring issue, I eventually deleted gconf,
 restarted evolution and set up my mail accounts. As expected Evolution
 created new config files and from then on everything went more or less
 fine. With or without seahorse or keyring daemon installed.

The keyring is always installed as a dependency, AFAIK.

Seahorse is certainly *not* required.  It is a [excellent] tool for
visualizing and managing your keyring which otherwise is just a
mysterious thing that exists under the covers.

It would have been interesting to know if you had just deleted your
default keyring via Seahorse and restarted if the problem would have
gone away.

  I may be mistaken, but it seems Evolution does not override the gnome
 configuration properly. I hope this is helpful. 

I'd *guess* the problem was in the default keyring somehow.  Perhaps
KDE's greeter doesn't initialize the keyring?  Don't know.


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Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 11:37 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 16:38 +0100, Paulo Crespi wrote:
  I ran into the same problem after upgrading to evolution 3.2.1 on
  OpenSuse 12.1 and KDE 4.7.2. After many (in my opinion useless)
  attempts to solve the keyring issue, I eventually deleted gconf,
  restarted evolution and set up my mail accounts. As expected Evolution
  created new config files and from then on everything went more or less
  fine. With or without seahorse or keyring daemon installed.
 
 The keyring is always installed as a dependency, AFAIK.
 
 Seahorse is certainly *not* required.  It is a [excellent] tool for
 visualizing and managing your keyring which otherwise is just a
 mysterious thing that exists under the covers.
 
 It would have been interesting to know if you had just deleted your
 default keyring via Seahorse and restarted if the problem would have
 gone away.
 
   I may be mistaken, but it seems Evolution does not override the gnome
  configuration properly. I hope this is helpful. 
 
 I'd *guess* the problem was in the default keyring somehow.  Perhaps
 KDE's greeter doesn't initialize the keyring?  Don't know.

As has been commented several times on this list over the years, none of
KDE knows anything about the Gnome keyring. KDE has its own entirely
separate keystore, the KDE Wallet.

The existence of two subsystems with essentially the same functionality
but which don't communicate with each other is a constant irritant.
Every time I start Evo in a new login session I have to re-type my login
password *and* my Gnome keyring password (it used to be just one of
them, now it's both; I guess that's progress ...). There's some talk of
a new KDE-side package which will address this but I don't know the
details.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start from Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:39:53 -0800

2012-02-13 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 19:41 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 As has been commented several times on this list over the years, none of
 KDE knows anything about the Gnome keyring. KDE has its own entirely
 separate keystore, the KDE Wallet.
 
 The existence of two subsystems with essentially the same functionality
 but which don't communicate with each other is a constant irritant.
 Every time I start Evo in a new login session I have to re-type my login
 password *and* my Gnome keyring password (it used to be just one of
 them, now it's both; I guess that's progress ...). There's some talk of
 a new KDE-side package which will address this but I don't know the
 details.

Stef Walter has assured me he's working on a replacement for GNOME
Keyring called GSecret that uses the same freedesktop.org standard D-Bus
API as KDE Wallet, so theoretically you can mix-and-match the KDE Wallet
service with the GSecret client library or vice versa.

http://stef.thewalter.net/2011/09/introspecting-certificates.html?showComment=1317622996198#c5364051270673968069

As soon the GSecret library is available, ditching GNOME Keyring will be
a top priority for me.  GNOME Keyring is as much of a pain to program to
as it is to use outside of GNOME.

Matthew Barnes

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