Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 09:39 -0200, Lailah wrote:
 Patrick:
 
 I was doing some proofs in my system in which live
 together
 KDE, Gnome 3 and Cinnamon.  When I start Evolution in Gnome and click
 on
 Send/Receiving  it asks to me for keyring password and then start
 normally.  When I start Evolution in KDE and click on
 Send/Receiving
 it asks just like in Gnome.  It doesn't ask me twice.  The same happen
 in Cinnamon.  I thought that was the normal behaviour.  
 Then, what is the normal behaviour?  No asking at all?

[Please don't top-post, it makes threads harder to follow]

When starting Evo for the first time in a new KDE login session, I
*almost* always have to give both passwords, i.e. login and keyring. I
say almost because in a small percentage of cases this doesn't happen
and I only have to give the keyring password. I've no idea why the
behaviour varies.

Note that the dialogue appears as soon as I launch Evo. I don't need to
click on Send/Receive. However that might be a configuration difference
as I have Evo set up to sync on startup.

My understanding is that under Gnome you should only ever have to give
the keyring password, and if it's the same as the login pw then you
won't have to give anything, i.e. it Just Works. Since I never use the
Gnome desktop (especially now with the flamewars about Gnome 3), I'm
just guessing about this.

BTW, I see I have two /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon processes running:

1471 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
2536 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --foreground --components=secrets

The first was started when I logged in. The second seems to have been
run explicitly by Evo, presumably because it couldn't find the first one
for some reason. That could be the reason I'm seeing what I'm seeing.
Perhaps your environment is different in some way.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] evolutio forgets my passwords every start

2012-02-27 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 00:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 My understanding is that under Gnome you should only ever have to give
 the keyring password, and if it's the same as the login pw then you
 won't have to give anything, i.e. it Just Works. Since I never use the
 Gnome desktop (especially now with the flamewars about Gnome 3), I'm
 just guessing about this.

That's basically correct.  The 'login' keyring is special because it's
tied into PAM somehow, and so if that's also your default keyring then
automatic unlocking should Just Work in most distros.

There's a wiki page that explains how to set this up manually, but I can
never get through it without my eyes glazing over.

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Pam

Matthew Barnes


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