[Evolution] I fixed a problem
openSUSE 12.3 KDE 4.10.3 Evolution 3.8.2 The problem: After updating from Evolution 3.6 which was distributed with openSUSE 12.3, to Evolution 3.8.1,, the plugin evolution-tray would not work. Today, I updated to Evolution 3.8.2, and saw an update to evolution-tray, so I added that to the update. It still didn't work. I looked around for the location of the plugins, and found it in /usr/lib64/evolution/3.6/plugins. All by itself. There is a directory /usr/lib64/evolution/3.8/plugins. So I copied liborg-gnome-evolution-tray.so and org-gnome-evolution-tray.eplug from to 3.6/plugins directory to the 3.8/plugins directory, shutdown and restarted Evolution and evolution-tray is now working. I know Evolution is a Gnome application, and I don't think evolution-tray has a use in Gnome, and I don't know if it's unique to openSUSE, and I don't know if this list is the correct place for this message, but I find a lot of useful information here. It's one of the first places I look, so I thought I'd post this here. Bart ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Warnings from Evolution
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 06:14 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 16:36 -0600, Bart wrote: openSUSE 12.3 KDE 4.10.3 Evolution 3.8.1 Had to restart my computer today. Is there more the that story? :) Nothing interesting. Doing a bunch of changes, a new keyboard, Some other hardware stuff. Just wanted power off while doing it. Had the dickens of a time getting my contacts to load. So, I started Evolution from a terminal. You probably need to enable some debugging to get anything really interesting. https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Debugging Got several - Screen capture --- bart@Asus-990FX:~ evolution ** (evolution:3060): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files Something is not installed. But if you don't need accessibility you may not care. I guess I don't. I have no idea what or who org.freedesktop.DBus is or why I'd want to access it. That was kind of why I posted the message. (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files A GNOME session is not running. Possibly because you aren't in GNOME. It seems like one should be created automatically, perhaps something such as gnome-session is not installed? I suppose this could break some things. I show two packages available; gnome-session-default-session and gnome-session-fallback-session. Neither of these are installed. I use KDE as the default DM but I know I need some Gnome stuff for some Gnome apps I use. I had relied on openSUSE to install the needed dependencies and start the required apps/services. Actually, aside from some minor things, like the missing contacts, and not picking up user accounts when replying, Evolution seems to be working rather well. The following is pretty normal widget/Gtk noise. They are bugs, I think, but very minor ones. They wouldn't have anything to do with loading contacts. (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but not visible (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but not visible (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but visible=0 child_visible=1 parent GtkBox 0x23e4280 mapped=1 (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but not visible (evolution:3060): Gtk-WARNING **: EAttachmentBar 0x2023600 is mapped but visible=0 child_visible=1 parent GtkBox 0x23e4280 mapped=1 I kind of thought they might be. Probably related to the window sizes not being remembered between startups. I really posted all this only because I thought the experts here might recognize some of this stuff, and/or recommend I file bug report(s). I guess I'm just trying to do my share, but needed some input on whether or not I should, in this case, do anything. Bart ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Migrate from Evolution 2.12 to 2.28 without backup?
I recently installed a newer version of Centos after a drive began failing. Although I have a copy of all files from the old drive, I foolishly did not go through the Evolution backup process. Is there a process for restoring configuration and mail folders outside of the backup/restore process? Can I just import from the old Evolution folders? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] About performance
Thank you Matthew. This aleviated a little bit the situation. But not much. I still see something wrong. I have to investigate where the problems come from... One known issue, especially for heavy users, is that fragmentation can build up in the mail summary database over time, which does negatively impact performance. If you notice your hard disk grinding a lot while working in Evolution, this might be the issue. It might help to garbage collect the database. Evolution does not currently do that itself. Try shutting down Evolution and run this little shell script: http://mbarnes.fedorapeople.org/evolution-rebuild-summarydb Eventually I'd like to tie this into the Expunge operation, which seems like a natural place for it to get run periodically. Haven't done it yet because, you know, time, manpower, priorities, etc. Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] About performance
Hi Pete, Yes, I know that if I'm the only one reporting this it's surely a client/user misconfiguration. That's what I wanted to know before opening a bug. But you cannot blame ubuntu or any other distribution for this. The only reason that may affect performance in my setup is a lot of small things together: 1.- Big data folders in evolution. 2.- RAID setup on my home disk that's not optimal. In efect, I have to change it because it's really slow. That's because I did the raid with the BIOS support what's is an error. I know. 3.- Database handling in evo not optimal. 4.- memory leaks? I want to setup right the point 2 but I want it to stay slow for a while to be sure it's not a matter of just put faster hardware. If thunderbird goes slow after a year I will write again and say: Hey, people, that was a normal issue because big folders and slow disks. But I don't think this will be the issue. Anyway. Let's close this thread if nobody saw evolution go slower on time. Maybe it's only me. Thank you a lot for your support! Best reagards, El 13/05/13 11:05, Pete Biggs escribió: But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they didn't see any problem. Because one person reporting problems is not usually credible - it's indicative of a misconfiguration or an issue elsewhere. Yes, it sometimes is a problem, and given an infinite amount of resources all such things would be investigated - but with limited (very limited) resources, the developers have to concentrate on the things that have the most impact for the most people. The same occurs in evolution. Just because it works well for you it does not mean it's working well. I can tell you that performance and usability degraded over time. but not for most people. My experience is that Evolution has become more stable and more usable over the last few releases. And yes, it has become faster and more responsive. To be honest most of the grouching about the stability and speed of Evo seems to be coming from Ubuntu users - that may be because there are just more users of Ubuntu than other distros; or it could be something that the Ubuntu packagers have done to Evo; or it could be some interaction of Evo with other libraries that Ubuntu have modified. That's not to say that there aren't reported problems with other distros, but they don't seem to make Evo unusable like it reportedly does on Ubuntu. If I'm taking my time explaining what's the problem I suppose that someone should take some time in investigating what can be wrong. It's not a waste of time because doing it will improve overall usabiliy of all users. I'm not blaming. I'm just warning about a problem that made me switch. Hope you understand that I love the program and that's why I'm telling. That's not blaming. Please take time to analyze what I'm telling. I suppose that I'm not the only one that suffered of this. Have you filed bug reports in bugzilla about it? That's the only way that it's going to get into the developers list of things to look at - the more people that file bugs, especially if they turn out to be the same problem, the more likely that it will be looked at. Note: My current version is: 3.6.4. And crashed while writing this on Thunderbird. So I didn't touched anything when crashed. If it crashes while doing nothing, then you really need to get a backtrace on it with all the symbol packages installed so that someone can see exactly where and why it is crashing. Useful information on doing this is at http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml I suppose it's a small bug. But this is not the problem. Problem is performance. File bugs about it. That's the only way the developers can get a view on systemic problems and can spot patterns. It's also very helpful if when you do submit a bug following a posting to this list, that you tell us the bug ID - at least then if some one searches the list archives (because we ALL do that before posting, don't we) they can at least see if the problem has been fixed, or can add a comment to the bug. Finally, the developers make advances and improvements and bug fixes in the current version and only bug fixes in the previous version - so it is always worthwhile running the most up to date version before criticizing things too much. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution: Automatically Create Address Book Entries for People You Respond To | a Tech-Recipes Tutorial
On Sat, 2013-05-18 at 01:55 -0600, Bart wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 23:07 -0500, Eugene wrote: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2322/evolution_automatically_create_address_book_entries/ I can't find this feature anymore. Was it dropped? evolution-3.6.4 Eugene. ___ It is there in 3.8.1 anyway. I am pretty sure it was working in 3.6 but I don't have that version anymore. I can confirm this, but I had and still have many minor issues + I've got this option disabled, so I don't know, if it does work as expected. Edit Preferences Contacts Automatic Contacts [x] Create address book entries when sending mails Ok, I now read the link, at least for 3.8 it's the same, if I should have the time to reboot today, I'll take a look at Evolution 3.6.2-0ubuntu0.1, at the moment I need to work with my Arch Linux Evolution 3.8.2. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Warnings from Evolution
On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 19:33 -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: Black helicopters are on their way to you. What are you smoking? Those helicopters are pink. However, the output the OP gets is bad, it should be like this one, I get: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ evolution ** (evolution:859): WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. (evolution:859): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files ** (evolution-alarm-notify:865): WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. Seriously, if I've to read freedesktop or dbus alone in one sentence, I get an allergic reaction. Both in one sentence is very dangerous for my health. Regards, Ralf Grand Master of Freemasons ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] I fixed a problem
Good! Thank you for the information! Regards, LAILAH 2013/5/22, Bart montana_evolution_u...@hardinmt.us: openSUSE 12.3 KDE 4.10.3 Evolution 3.8.2 The problem: After updating from Evolution 3.6 which was distributed with openSUSE 12.3, to Evolution 3.8.1,, the plugin evolution-tray would not work. Today, I updated to Evolution 3.8.2, and saw an update to evolution-tray, so I added that to the update. It still didn't work. I looked around for the location of the plugins, and found it in /usr/lib64/evolution/3.6/plugins. All by itself. There is a directory /usr/lib64/evolution/3.8/plugins. So I copied liborg-gnome-evolution-tray.so and org-gnome-evolution-tray.eplug from to 3.6/plugins directory to the 3.8/plugins directory, shutdown and restarted Evolution and evolution-tray is now working. I know Evolution is a Gnome application, and I don't think evolution-tray has a use in Gnome, and I don't know if it's unique to openSUSE, and I don't know if this list is the correct place for this message, but I find a lot of useful information here. It's one of the first places I look, so I thought I'd post this here. Bart ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- *Netbook rota, internet inestable... No se enojen si entro en Modo Mute* ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
