[Evolution] any update on the webkit composer viewer

2013-11-23 Thread Emre Erenoglu
Hi,

Would anyone have any update on the status of webkit composer  viewer?

I've checked planning page (
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Planning310), it states 3.11.x as
milestone for it, and 3.11.x unstable are already available, however,
there's also a note at the top that most of the tasks on planning page
would be delayed to 3.12 or later.

So what would be our expected release for webkit now?

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Re: [Evolution] attachment.dat: pptx showing as plain text attachment

2013-11-23 Thread Eric Beversluis
On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 15:35 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-11-21 at 06:32 -0500, Carpetnailz wrote:
  Evolution seemed to choke on opening the mail with viewing
  Message Source, so I had to seek it out and open with gedit. Here's what
  I found:
 
   Hi,
 it looks fine, evolution may read it properly and show a file name, not
 attachment.dat. Could you try to create a simple test presentation sent
 to you, on which the bug would be reproducible for you, and then share
 the email through bugzilla [1] for testing purposes, please?
   Bye,
   Milan
 
 [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution
 
Will do--probably tonight (cleveland OH time) when I get home from work.

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Re: [Evolution] attachment.dat: pptx showing as plain text attachment

2013-11-23 Thread Eric Beversluis
Interesting: when I send a .pptx from Win7 using Thunderbird the pptx
comes through fine but there's also an 'attachment.dat' that Evolution
sees as a plain text file.

I talked to my colleague who's an Apple expert and he says he never
heard of any problems like that with Apple. And when I Google 'Apple
mail and application.dat' everything seems focused on receiving stuff on
Apple from Windows (winmail.dat).

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[Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Bart
When I start evolution from a terminal, I get to see these errors.
Well, actually warning messages.  They continue every few seconds all
the time it is running.  Anyone know how I can correct this?

evolution 3.8.5 on openSuse 12.3 using KDE as a DM.

Bart




---
bart@Asus-990FX:~ evolution

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus
address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files

(evolution:5740): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(evolution:5740): libebackend-WARNING **:
module_load: /usr/lib64/libgdata.so.13: undefined symbol:
soup_session_new_with_options
Failed to load
module: /usr/lib64/evolution/3.8/modules/module-cal-config-google.so

** (evolution-alarm-notify:5746): WARNING **: Error retrieving
accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
java version 1.7.0_45
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.3) (suse-8.24.2-x86_64)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.45-b08, mixed mode)

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of
ca.desrt.dconf timed out

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of
ca.desrt.dconf timed out

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached

** (evolution:5740): WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf:
Timeout was reached



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Re: [Evolution] any update on the webkit composer viewer

2013-11-23 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 22:20 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:

 Would anyone have any update on the status of webkit composer 
 viewer? 

WebKit viewer has been available for numerous releases already.

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Re: [Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sat, 2013-11-23 at 02:42 -0700, Bart wrote:
 When I start evolution from a terminal, I get to see these errors.
 Well, actually warning messages.  They continue every few seconds all
 the time it is running.  Anyone know how I can correct this?
 
 evolution 3.8.5 on openSuse 12.3 using KDE as a DM.
 

I know I've seen a question like this before, so I did a quick search on
the archives - and yes, back in May there was an almost identical
question with a reasonable answer.  I was just going to send you the
link to the thread when I realised you were the one who asked the almost
identical question:

 https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2013-May/msg00166.html

All I can say is that Adam's answer to you

 https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2013-May/msg00171.html

is probably as good as you are going to get without any detailed
debugging information.  Basically, the problems are caused by running a
Gnome application in a KDE environment without various Gnome bits and
pieces running.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] any update on the webkit composer viewer

2013-11-23 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 22:20 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
 Would anyone have any update on the status of webkit composer 
 viewer? 

WebKit-based email renderer has been in place since 3.6.

WebKit-based email composer is still a work-in-progress.

At this year's GUADEC we decided to attempt to port both the renderer
and composer to WebKit2 first, instead of merging the v1 composer and
then immediately rewriting it all.

Tomas Popela is working on it here:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/log/?h=wip-webkit2

But I haven't been following his progress closely and don't know if it
will be ready for 3.12 or not.

Matthew Barnes


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Re: [Evolution] any update on the webkit composer viewer

2013-11-23 Thread erenoglu
Thanks Andre.  Any idea about the composer? (if it is appropriate to ask).
I've also checked the bug report (which I'm also following), but no update
since some time.
What happens is that you nicely view a mail and want to respond to it, but
then old composer takes it in it hands and you don't get anymore what
you've been viewing.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Andre Klapper [via Gnome Evolution -
General] ml-node+s1774414n4658164...@n4.nabble.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 22:20 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:

  Would anyone have any update on the status of webkit composer 
  viewer?

 WebKit viewer has been available for numerous releases already.

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Re: [Evolution] attachment.dat: pptx showing as plain text attachment

2013-11-23 Thread Carpetnailz
Argh! My apologies to everyone. It turns out that the emails I was
having trouble with have two attachments and the second one is the
proper pptx that does open in Impress. What screwed me up was that the
drop-down list only showed the options for the plain text document so I
never noticed that there were two attachments.  Too dumb.


On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 18:20 -0500, Carpetnailz wrote:
 My wife sent me a power point file from her Mac using Mac mail but it
 came through to Evo 3.8.5 on Fedora 19 as a plain text attachment called
 attachment.dat that Evo wanted to open in gedit. What's happening here?
 
 On line I find discussion of things arriving at .dat files from Windows
 operating systems, but why would this happen from Mac Lion using the
 default Mac mail system? It doesn't happen when she sends the same
 attachment to my Win 7 box. And she's sent me Word and PowerPoint files
 in the past without this problem.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Bart
On Sat, 2013-11-23 at 12:04 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
I know I've seen a question like this before, so I did a quick search on
question with a reasonable answer.  I was just going to send you the
identical question: 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2013-May/msg00166.html
All I can say is that Adam's answer to you 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2013-May/msg00171.html
is probably as good as you are going to get without any detailed
Gnome application in a KDE environment without various Gnome bits and

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Well, I'm sorry for the repeated question, I didn't have the web site
bookmarked (I do now) and couldn't find that thread in my saved
messages.  I do appreciate that you looked it up and answered.  Truly
wish my memory was that good!

The original problem did not include the timeout, and that was what
bothered me this time.

I did manage to get it fixed though, there was a version mismatch in the
four dconf files.  I rely on the installation manager to resolve
dependencies but, this time something didn't work out.  Oh, well.

I understand though, about running gnome apps in KDE.  Then again, I
have no choice.  Kmail won't stay up and running, thunderbird won't
import evolution files, and evolution does everything I want, almost
always without problems at all.  So, I have no choice you see.

Bart

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Re: [Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-11-23 at 12:33 -0700, Bart wrote:
 So, I have no choice you see.

Hi Bart,

you've got a choice.

For me it's much harder. I dislike KDE, so while switching to KDE, to
get rid of all the buggy GNOME/GTK bugs, I not only will lose Evolution,
my favourite MUA, I'll also will lose a clear desktop environment. KDE
is unclear with tons of idiotic features, but I'm not willing to waste
my time with all the GTK/GNOME bugs. I'm already using Xfce, sure,
without gvfs, because I don't want to damage my hard drives and sure,
all the times there are idiotic issues, I run chown/chmod and tons of
other commands, just to fix, what's buggy with GTK/GNOME software.
That's a no-go. I've got a perceptual disorder, so I really, really
prefer to use the clear Xfce and Evolution over the unclear KDE with
what ever other MUA, but IMHO, continuing to struggle with the GTK/GNOME
insanity isn't worse the effort. I heard LXDE will switch to Qt.

Drop what ever depends to GTK/GNOME crap that you can. I need to use
some pro-audio applications based on GTK, but I already started to
switch to KMail (not nearly as good as Evolution, but without all that
bugs and that's more important) and KDE. I really have a very hard time
with KDE now, and I take a rest using my old Xfce with Evolution at thsi
moment. However, how long do you think should we wait, until GTK/GNOME
stuff will work flawlessly, as it did in the good old times?

IMO we should swallow the bitter pill :(.

2 Cents,
Ralf

PS: I'm using Linux only for more than 10 years, so I guess I'm able to
gauge the situation. I don't see anything good within the close future,
when continuing GTK/GNOME based environments and applications.

Hopefully YMMV!

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Re: [Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf

 PS: I'm using Linux only for more than 10 years, so I guess I'm able to
 gauge the situation. I don't see anything good within the close future,
 when continuing GTK/GNOME based environments and applications.
^ using
 
 Hopefully YMMV!


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Re: [Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PPS:

I didn't read the whole thread, but I notice that your Evolution is
outdated. You might be satisfied again, if you update all your GTK/GNOME
software to current versions. IMO 3.10.2, the version I'm using, with
recent GTK/GNOME dependencies, is better, than what you're using. Still
not good enough for my taste, but you should test it, perhaps you'll
like it.

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Re: [Evolution] errors while running evolution

2013-11-23 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Ralf,

On Sat, 2013-11-23 at 21:04 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 you've got a choice.
 
 For me it's much harder. I dislike KDE

Do you have a blog or such where ypu could post this? 
Your distribution issues and your plans to move from ABC to XYZ feel
off-topic for this mailing list (which is about Evolution).

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