Re: [Evolution] How to find mails which have disappered ?

2014-01-25 Thread Renaud Granier
Hello,

My evolution version is 3.8.4

The server type is pop

I have a webmail from a french web provider (sfr)

My account is edited in the preferences menu.

I was downloading the mails as I usually do, but this took much more time
to do (more than 5 minutes). I tried to stop the download, but nothing
happened, then evolution crashed.

Thanks a lot

rg



2014-01-25 Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve

 On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 22:57 +0100, Renaud Granier wrote:
  I was using evolution to import mails from my webmail when the
  software
  crashed and so I lost 80 new mails.
 
  Does someone knows how I could find those maisl ?

 You need to give a lot more information if anyone is going to be able to
 help you:

 1) What version of Evolution is this (Help-About)?
 2) What webmail system is it?
 3) What kind of mail server is the webmail running against (POP, IMAP,
 Exchange, ...)?
 4) How exactly are you importing the mails?

 poc

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Re: [Evolution] How to find mails which have disappered ?

2014-01-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 12:05 +0100, Renaud Granier wrote:
 I was downloading the mails as I usually do, but this took much more
 time to do (more than 5 minutes). I tried to stop the download, but
 nothing happened, then evolution crashed.

Mails that were completely downloaded should be available by Evo, the
other still should be on the server. If you can't see already downloaded
mails, check that Show: is set to All Messages and that Search: is
empty.


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Re: [Evolution] How to find mails which have disappered ?

2014-01-25 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 12:05 +0100, Renaud Granier wrote:
 I was downloading the mails as I usually do, but this took much more time
 to do (more than 5 minutes). I tried to stop the download, but nothing
 happened, then evolution crashed.

Crashes are also worth to report (in latest stable 3.10) with a good
stacktrace. :)

To see if your mail was downloaded and is just not displayed, see
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-cannot-see.html

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Re: [Evolution] I/O operation timing out

2014-01-25 Thread Eric Beversluis
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 22:22 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
  Update: I had pretty much decided the problem (getting I/O timeout with
  Send/Receive on Evolution--doesn't seem to affect sending new email) lay
  in my Motorola 5101 modem from TimeWarner. It may still lie there but I
  just noticed this: My wife is out of town for a week. She uses a Mac and
  Mac's Mail, which is on all the time. With her gone, I haven't had any
  problems with my Evolution mail failing to connect (Error while
  fetching mail from  Could not connect to  I/O operation timed
  out). So I pulled out an old MacBook and sure enough, as soon as I
  turned on Mail, I started getting the timeout problems again. Turn off
  Mail and Evolution mail works fine. 
 
 That'll be interesting to sort out!
 
 Are you (both) on wired or wireless connections? 
The apple--both my wife's and the one I'm testing today--are on
wireless. The Fedora 19 box is mostly on wireless, but the problem seems
to exist also when I switch to an Ethernet connection.

 
 Are you both using the same server / account for mail?
 
 To be honest it sounds like something is wrong with your NAT
 router/firewall in that the packets are being sent to the wrong host -
 it could be configuration or it could just be a bug, but it certainly
 seems like packets are going astray.
Using a brand new Netgear RangeMax N150 WPN 824N wireless router. I
ditched my old one because I thought it might be the problem.

 
  
  Interestingly this does not happen on this computer at work, in a small
  office where the boss uses Mac and Mac Mail all the time--even when he
  was using earlier versions of Mac.
 
 It's probably because your office doesn't use a NAT'd network - or that
 the NAT router works properly.
 
Yes--we're Nat'd there too.

 P.
 
 
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[Evolution] evolution send problem

2014-01-25 Thread Ingo Walter
Hello!



I am using evolution for many years.



Now I got an error by sending mail.

Iam using GMX as provider.



Everytime I changed my password at provider side I cant send emails any more.

Im configured evolution with imap. See attached error message.

The authentification window will be not displayed after pushing the send button.



What can I do?



Thank you for help.



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Re: [Evolution] evolution send problem

2014-01-25 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 13:57 +0100, Ingo Walter wrote:
 I' am using evolution for many years.
  
 Now I got an error by sending mail.
 I'am using GMX as provider.
  
 Everytime I changed my password at provider side I can't send emails
 any more.
 I'm configured evolution with imap. See attached error message.
 The authentification window will be not displayed after pushing the
 send button.
  
 What can I do?

You could probably update the password by using Seahorse, but
Evolution seems to store passwords under cryptic names like Evolution
Data Source 1234567890.12345...@foo.bar. So it could be quite some fun
to find the right item. Gar. Hopefully some developer can explain
why this is such a bad user experience.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution send problem

2014-01-25 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 17:50 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 You could probably update the password by using Seahorse, but
 Evolution seems to store passwords under cryptic names like Evolution
 Data Source 1234567890.12345...@foo.bar. So it could be quite some fun
 to find the right item. Gar. Hopefully some developer can explain
 why this is such a bad user experience.

There's no code to update the keyring entry when you rename an account,
so to keep the label accurate I used the account's fixed identifier.

It's on my to-do list to go back and revise that.

Matthew Barnes

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Re: [Evolution] I/O operation timing out

2014-01-25 Thread James Lay
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 17:37 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote:

 On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 22:22 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
   Update: I had pretty much decided the problem (getting I/O timeout with
   Send/Receive on Evolution--doesn't seem to affect sending new email) lay
   in my Motorola 5101 modem from TimeWarner. It may still lie there but I
   just noticed this: My wife is out of town for a week. She uses a Mac and
   Mac's Mail, which is on all the time. With her gone, I haven't had any
   problems with my Evolution mail failing to connect (Error while
   fetching mail from  Could not connect to  I/O operation timed
   out). So I pulled out an old MacBook and sure enough, as soon as I
   turned on Mail, I started getting the timeout problems again. Turn off
   Mail and Evolution mail works fine. 
  
  That'll be interesting to sort out!
  
  Are you (both) on wired or wireless connections? 
 The apple--both my wife's and the one I'm testing today--are on
 wireless. The Fedora 19 box is mostly on wireless, but the problem seems
 to exist also when I switch to an Ethernet connection.
 
  
  Are you both using the same server / account for mail?
  
  To be honest it sounds like something is wrong with your NAT
  router/firewall in that the packets are being sent to the wrong host -
  it could be configuration or it could just be a bug, but it certainly
  seems like packets are going astray.
 Using a brand new Netgear RangeMax N150 WPN 824N wireless router. I
 ditched my old one because I thought it might be the problem.
 
  
   
   Interestingly this does not happen on this computer at work, in a small
   office where the boss uses Mac and Mac Mail all the time--even when he
   was using earlier versions of Mac.
  
  It's probably because your office doesn't use a NAT'd network - or that
  the NAT router works properly.
  
 Yes--we're Nat'd there too.
 
  P.
  
  
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Packet capture it...it's a linux box after all ;)  Guessing, for some
odd reason port saturation is happening for whatever reason.  Look for
icmp replies from the router for clues.

James
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Re: [Evolution] I/O operation timing out

2014-01-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 11:36 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote:
 but it certainly seems like packets are going astray. How would
 anything that Airport or Mac Mail does cause packets to go astray? It
 seems like somehow Mac Mail is continuously sending and thus clogging
 the mail-receiving ports (995).

That doesn't make a lot of sense. I presume we're talking about 2
different client machines (seems logical since one is Fedora and the
other a Mac, unless Fedora is running on a VM). So how could one of them
clog the POP *download* port of the other, which isn't even directly
connected to it? Unless the Mac is running some kind of DOS bot. Do you
see any other network effects? Are ping times from the Fedora machine to
the mail server affected when the Mac is on?

Also, looking back I see you're using Fedora 17. F17 went EOL about a
year ago, so I'd recommend updating to F20 before proceeding. You'll at
least get a newer version of Evo and the problem might go away.

Finally, are you the OP for this thread? You seem to be using two
different mail accounts.

poc

poc

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Re: [Evolution] How to find mails which have disappered ?

2014-01-25 Thread Harvey Nimmo
I am having a similar problem right at this moment with Evolution. I
know that I have about 75 mails on my pop server (amongst others,
several from this list!). They are being downloaded about one every 10
minutes or so, and then comes an error message that Evolution could not
get a POP summary and a second one that the pop server closed the
session. (By chance this mail was the latest to arrive. I can send
mails, as you can see)

I posted a forum thread on opensuse/applications (English) a couple of
weeks ago describing in more detail the stability problems I have been
having with Evolution. In case anyoone wants to look, the title of the
post is 'Evolution unstable' 

Here is the text of original post (there are a couple of replies, but no
progress in solving the problem):

I am running Evolution 3.10.2 on Opensuse 13.1 (64-bit) on Gnome 3.10.

There are 2 email accounts one is an EWS account and the other POP.

Every first time Evolution is started after reboot it 'freezes' during
the initial accessing of one or other or both of the account servers. In
the case of the POP server, one ore more emails may be downloaded, but
the process does not go to completion and hangs at the n+1th mail. This
freeze does not time out, i.e.Evolution is stuck in that state for ever.
In the case of the EWS server. the message 'loading...' appears in the
the account and Evolution remains stuck in that state for ever.
(Sending/receiving mails or deleting them from the inbox causes
Evolution to freeze.
It may be possible to write mails in that condition, but not to send
them). Only if there are no mails on the servers will Evolution behave
as normal.

Quitting the program seems the only alternative, but Evolution does not
quit and waits for ever (i.e. no time-out, and no message to force
quit). On logging out from Gnome, there is a message that Evolution is
waiting to quit and it does finally complete the log-out after about 5
minutes (estimated). On logging in again to Gnome, Evolution behaves
normally from then on.

Could it be that Evolution is tucked in the system at a level below the
application level and is, therefore, beset with the similar sicknesses
to MS Outlook?

Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? Does anyone have a solution?

Cheers

Harvey


On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 12:54 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 12:05 +0100, Renaud Granier wrote:
  I was downloading the mails as I usually do, but this took much more
  time to do (more than 5 minutes). I tried to stop the download, but
  nothing happened, then evolution crashed.
 
 Mails that were completely downloaded should be available by Evo, the
 other still should be on the server. If you can't see already downloaded
 mails, check that Show: is set to All Messages and that Search: is
 empty.
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] How to find mails which have disappered ?

2014-01-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 21:01 +0100, Harvey Nimmo wrote:
 Could it be that Evolution is tucked in the system at a level below the
 application level and is, therefore, beset with the similar sicknesses
 to MS Outlook?

I don't know MS Outlook, what kind of sickness? What do you mean with
below the application level?

JFTR I run

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q evolution
evolution 3.10.3-1

on Xfce4 on 64 bit architecture, with 4 POP accounts and don't
experience this issue.

Most of the times missing mails are sorted because a user randomly
changed the Show setting or by accident wrote something in the
Search field.

Connections between a MUA and the ISP's server could fail for several
reasons. Evolution has got bugs, but using POP/SMPT is ok.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] I/O operation timing out

2014-01-25 Thread Carpetnailz
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 19:19 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 11:36 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote:
  but it certainly seems like packets are going astray. How would
  anything that Airport or Mac Mail does cause packets to go astray? It
  seems like somehow Mac Mail is continuously sending and thus clogging
  the mail-receiving ports (995).
 
 That doesn't make a lot of sense. I presume we're talking about 2
 different client machines (seems logical since one is Fedora and the
 other a Mac, unless Fedora is running on a VM). So how could one of them
 clog the POP *download* port of the other, which isn't even directly
 connected to it? Unless the Mac is running some kind of DOS bot. Do you
 see any other network effects? Are ping times from the Fedora machine to
 the mail server affected when the Mac is on?
 
 Also, looking back I see you're using Fedora 17. F17 went EOL about a
 year ago, so I'd recommend updating to F20 before proceeding. You'll at
 least get a newer version of Evo and the problem might go away.

THat was at the start of the thread. Early on I upgraded to F19, but the
problems persisted.

 
 Finally, are you the OP for this thread? You seem to be using two
 different mail accounts.
 
 poc
 
 poc
 
Well I've rebooted the wirelss router and now things seem for the moment
to be going OK. But I've tried that in the past and either they didn't
fix or the problem soon reappeared after a certain amount of activity.

If it reappears I think I'll just update and upgrade my wireless
router. 

Thanks to all and hopefully this thread is finished.

EB

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