Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-20 Thread Roy Reese
- Original Message -
From: Matthew Barnes
Sent: 02/19/14 11:10 PM
To: Roy Reese
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 22:51 +0100, Roy Reese wrote:  Unfortnately I suspect 
that the basic uninstall of Evolution leaves  some files here and there. For 
example, any data I have moved from my  netbook magically appear after 
reinstall. So I am open to suggestions  for how to do a truly thorough 
uninstall before resorting to the more  radical approach of reinstalling the 
OS. See https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html.en In 
your case, the Account Settings directory is key. Matthew Barnes
Thank you, Matthew and Ralf. I uninstalled Evo, deleted all data files except 
$HOME/.config/dconf, and then reinstalled and configured and ran from zero 
(without transferring any data from my other machine). Same thing. Evolution 
hangs. Here I should be more explicit. First, Evo never asks for a password 
even though I have indicated that one is necessary (hence my assumption that 
the problem lies with the keyring). Second, the send and receive processes hang 
in the sense that no mail is retreived and the processes cannot be canceled nor 
can the program be closed, even though one can do other things such as look at 
notes, etc.
There are some differences I see in setting up Evo in 3.10.2 under Mageia KDE 
and the 3.2.3 version I have in Mint and don't know if they could be the source 
of the problem. First, even though I indicate in 3.10.2 that passwords are 
required in POP and STMP, Evo does not ask if I want it to remember the 
password. Second, in 3.2.3 I have specified TLS Encoding, in 3.10.2 STARTTLS 
after connecting. Third, on my Mageia machine Evo indicates two additional 
accounts: Search folder (set to vfolder) and On this machine (set to 
maildir).

Roy W. Reese
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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-20 Thread Rick Leir
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 10:35 +0100, Roy Reese wrote:

 Thank you, Matthew and Ralf. I uninstalled Evo, deleted all data files
 except $HOME/.config/dconf, and then reinstalled and configured and
 ran from zero (without transferring any data from my other machine).
 Same thing. Evolution hangs. Here I should be more explicit. First,
 Evo never asks for a password even though I have indicated that one is
 necessary (hence my assumption that the problem lies with the
 keyring). Second, the send and receive processes hang in the sense
 that no mail is retreived and the processes cannot be canceled nor can
 the program be closed, even though one can do other things such as
 look at notes, etc.
 
  
 
 There are some differences I see in setting up Evo in 3.10.2 under
 Mageia KDE and the 3.2.3 version I have in Mint and don't know if they
 could be the source of the problem. First, even though I indicate in
 3.10.2 that passwords are required in POP and STMP, Evo does not ask
 if I want it to remember the password. Second, in 3.2.3 I have
 specified TLS Encoding, in 3.10.2 STARTTLS after connecting. Third,
 on my Mageia machine Evo indicates two additional accounts: Search
 folder (set to vfolder) and On this machine (set to maildir).

Sorry, I should have spoken up yesterday.
Have you run strace(1)? 
Have you enabled logging? Something like
  CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution  evo_log

HTH -- Rick
Rick Leir, Senior Developer
http://CirrusComputing.com/ 
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Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients - Evolution 3.10.4

2014-02-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Too funny, today this is the only mail until now, that didn't reach the
recipient, I had good luck with a huge amount of other mails:
From: Ralf Mardorf 
To: evolution-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients -
 Evolution 3.10.4
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:51:08 +0100
Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 

On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 01:26 +0100, Ángel wrote:
 I would configure the MUA to deliver mail through a sendmail-like
 binary (configured as smarthost to route through your smtp server),
 logging every transaction. Thus, if you later find a missing massage,
 you could dig up the transaction and verify it existed and your smtp
 accepted responsibilty for delivering.

Thank you for the hint. I don't have much time to learn how to do this,
but if I should have some time, I'll do it.

Regards,
Ralf

A date is delayed, now I have got some time, but I can't find one
explanation I'm able to understand. Links are welcome.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients - Evolution 3.10.4

2014-02-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 01:26 +0100, Ángel wrote:
 to route through your smtp server

JFTR I don't run my own SMPT server, I don't have got my own domain.

My ISP is Alice and in addition I use Rocketmail,

ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com
ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net

by ADSL, PPPoE I connect to their POP/SMPT servers.


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Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients - Evolution 3.10.4

2014-02-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
:) Hm? Now I break the thread by forwarding and btw. I noticed different
From, did this mail fail because I replied to an off-list mail, not
marked as off-list :D?

From: Ralf Mardorf
To: lists-evolution
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients -
Evolution 3.10.4
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:24:13 +0100
Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 

I sent, resent and now I re-resent the same reply, see below, I relied
to the last messages for this thread. If this happens I at least expect
a postmaster reply about a delayed delivery some hours later or at least
a week later.

On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 16:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 16:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote a mail that
 unlikely didn't came through regarding to a blackhole list:

  On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 14:39 +, lists-evolution wrote:
   My suspicion would be that some of your recipients' mail servers
   simply black-hole mail that the don't like
  
  Unlikely. Alice several times was blackhole listed for around 24 hours
  by some recipients and then I always was notified by postmaster that
  this happened.
  
  The issue I currently experience is that I e.g. sent a mail at 15:41
  o'clock that came through, then another at 16:00 o'clock that didn't
  came through and at 16:30 o'clock a mail that came through, e.g. sent to
  Debian user mailing list.
  
  On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 14:14 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
   So, do you know what you have installed on your machine?
  
  For usage with evolution?
  
  [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi evolution
  Name   : evolution
  Version: 3.10.4-1
  [snip]
  Depends On : gnome-desktop  evolution-data-server  gtkhtml4
   libcanberra  libpst  libytnef  psmisc
   desktop-file-utils  hicolor-icon-theme  dconf
  Optional Deps  : bogofilter: possible junk filter plugin [installed]
   spamassassin: possible junk filter plugin [installed]
   highlight: text highlight plugin
  [snip]
  [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi evolution-data-server
  Name   : evolution-data-server
  Version: 3.10.4-1
  [snip]
  Depends On : gnome-online-accounts  nss  krb5  libgweather  libical
   db  libgdata
  Optional Deps  : None
  
  However, I can install what ever is needed and try to configure it.
  
  I at least have
  
  [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q getmail
  getmail 4.43.0-2
  [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q procmail
  procmail 3.22-6
  
  installed. I guess I once wanted to configure mutt, perhaps I have
  something to send mail also installed and perhaps it's already
  configured :D.



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Re: [Evolution] move-to-junk

2014-02-20 Thread Ángel
Milan Crha wrote:
 a virtual/search folder is tricky, basically because
 the move operation is supposed to make sure that the message will
 satisfy search folder's criteria, which may seem trivial in case of
 the
 virtual Junk (or Trash) folder, but not in general. Of course, there
 can
 be special-cases for these Trash/Junk, but by using the toolbar's
 Mark
 as Junk button you do not only move the message into the Junk
 folder,
 but also let your spam filter (bogofilter or spamassassin) learn about
 the junk message, which will help it in the future with the spam
 detection.
 Bye,

It seems that virtual folders should support a configurable
action-on-drop. The problem would be to have a way to express all the
possible actions, but even a limited grammar is probably a start.
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Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients - Evolution 3.10.4

2014-02-20 Thread Ángel
On jue, 20-02-2014 a las 14:14 +, Pete Biggs wrote
 On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 14:29 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 01:26 +0100, Ángel wrote:
   to route through your smtp server
  
  JFTR I don't run my own SMPT server, I don't have got my own domain.

By “your” I was meaning the smtp server you use, ie. rocketmail.com /
alice-dsl.net ones. 

 (long sendmail message by Pete)

I wouldn't recommend installing sendmail just for this. Looking at
simple suitable programs, I would suggest http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/
(other alternatives include nullmailer, esmtp and smail, plus
full-fledged mailers, of course)


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Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients - Evolution 3.10.4

2014-02-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 20:02 +0100, Ángel wrote:
 I wouldn't recommend installing sendmail just for this. Looking at
 simple suitable programs, I would suggest http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/
 (other alternatives include nullmailer, esmtp and smail, plus
 full-fledged mailers, of course)

I installed  sendmail  and  msmtp .

Once I have configured one of them or both, how has Evolution to be
configured to use them (or to send to them)?

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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-20 Thread Roy Reese
From: Rick Leir rl...@cirruscomputing.com 
http://www.gmx.es/callgate-6.73.1.0/rms/6.73.1.0/mail/getBody?folderId=2messageId=V0RKRxx0HmFhYFvvTnM1drIwOfhNUAebpurpose=displaybodyType=htmlreloadHack0.9069422082975507=true#
  To: evolution-list@gnome.org 
http://www.gmx.es/callgate-6.73.1.0/rms/6.73.1.0/mail/getBody?folderId=2messageId=V0RKRxx0HmFhYFvvTnM1drIwOfhNUAebpurpose=displaybodyType=htmlreloadHack0.9069422082975507=true#
  Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution Message-ID: 
1392895665.16134.56.ca...@chaos.team.virtualorgs.net 
http://www.gmx.es/callgate-6.73.1.0/rms/6.73.1.0/mail/getBody?folderId=2messageId=V0RKRxx0HmFhYFvvTnM1drIwOfhNUAebpurpose=displaybodyType=htmlreloadHack0.9069422082975507=true#
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 
 Sorry, I should have spoken up yesterday.  Have you run strace(1)?  Have 
 you enabled logging? Something like  CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution  
 evo_log  HTH -- Rick  Rick Leir, Senior Developer  
 http://CirrusComputing.com/ http://CirrusComputing.com/lang=en  Rick, 
 Thanks, it helps even though I am not sure what do do with the output. Here 
 is the output of CAMEL_DEBUG:(evolution:5868): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to 
 register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The 
 name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files java 
 version 1.7.0_45 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (mageia-2.4.4.2.mga4-x86_64 
 u45-b15) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.45-b08, mixed mode) 



The output of strace is quite extensive, but here are some of missing 
file/directory messages (lines with . indicate omitted output):

execve(/usr/bin/evolution, [evolution], [/* 85 vars */]) = 0
brk(0) = 0xce8000
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x7fe7bc733000
access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/x86_64/libevolution-shell.so, 
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/x86_64, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/libevolution-shell.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) 
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/x86_64/libevolution-shell.so, 
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/x86_64, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libevolution-shell.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libical.so.1, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libedataserver-1.2.so.18, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) 
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libcamel-1.2.so.45, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libpthread.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libwebkitgtk-3.0.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libgtk-3.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)

 - - - - -

In addition a lot of KDE theme icon files came up among the missing. But the 
following line caught my eye in strace output:

line 5619: stat(/home/aguador/.evolution, 0x7e16f3e0) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)

Why would this not be there? I installed Evo and Evo data server using Mageia's 
RPMDrake (omitting packages id'd as for development) and have assumed that this 
resulted in a complete installation, including dependencies.

Thanks again -- and in advance for any advice you can offer based on the above.
Roy
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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-20 Thread Rick Leir
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 22:03 +0100, Roy Reese wrote:

 From: Rick Leir rl...@cirruscomputing.com 
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org 
 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution 
 Message-ID: 1392895665.16134.56.ca...@chaos.team.virtualorgs.net 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 
 
  
 
  
 
  Sorry, I should have spoken up yesterday. 
  Have you run strace(1)? 
  Have you enabled logging? Something like 
CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution  evo_log 
 
  HTH -- Rick 
  Rick Leir, Senior Developer 
  http://CirrusComputing.com/ 
 
 Rick, Thanks, it helps even though I am not sure what do do with the output.  
 Here is the output of CAMEL_DEBUG:
 
 (evolution:5868): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: 
 GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
 org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files 
 java version 1.7.0_45 
 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (mageia-2.4.4.2.mga4-x86_64 u45-b15) 
 OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.45-b08, mixed mode) 

Maybe you do not have gnome?

 
 .
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libwebkitgtk-3.0.so.0, O_RDONLY|
 O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 .
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libgtk-3.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) =
 -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
  

If your system has /usr/lib/evolution/3.10/ then that would be a clue.

  - - - - -
  
 In addition a lot of KDE theme icon files came up among the missing.
 But the following line caught my eye in strace output:
  
 line 5619:  stat(/home/aguador/.evolution, 0x7e16f3e0) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
  
  
 Why would this not be there? I installed Evo and Evo data server using
 Mageia's RPMDrake (omitting packages id'd as for development) and have
 assumed that this resulted in a complete installation, including
 dependencies.
  
 Thanks again -- and in advance for any advice you can offer based on
 the above.
 Roy
 
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Here is what u should see for Evo 2.8.22:
$ ls -l ~/.evolution/
total 140
drwxr-xr-x 4 rleir rleir  4096 2014-02-11 06:03 addressbook
drwxr-xr-x 7 rleir rleir  4096 2012-11-02 09:24 cache
drwxr-xr-x 5 rleir rleir  4096 2014-02-20 09:34 calendar
-rw--- 1 rleir rleir   286 2012-03-02 15:32 camel-cert.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 rleir rleir  3313 2012-03-02 15:26 categories.xml
-rw--- 1 rleir rleir 65536 2014-02-14 06:51 cert8.db
-rw--- 1 rleir rleir 16384 2012-03-02 15:33 key3.db
drwxr-xr-x 7 rleir rleir  4096 2014-02-20 11:20 mail
drwxr-xr-x 5 rleir rleir  4096 2012-04-23 14:36 memos
-rw-r--r-- 1 rleir rleir  1118 2013-12-12 13:57 printing
-rw--- 1 rleir rleir 16384 2012-03-02 15:26 secmod.db
drwx-- 2 rleir rleir  4096 2014-01-31 11:55 signatures
drwxr-xr-x 5 rleir rleir  4096 2012-03-02 15:32 tasks


HTH -- Rick

Rick Leir, Senior Developer
http://CirrusComputing.com/ 


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Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients - Evolution 3.10.4

2014-02-20 Thread Pete Biggs
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 20:14 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 20:02 +0100, Ángel wrote:
  I wouldn't recommend installing sendmail just for this. Looking at
  simple suitable programs, I would suggest http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/
  (other alternatives include nullmailer, esmtp and smail, plus
  full-fledged mailers, of course)
 
 I installed  sendmail  and  msmtp .
 
 Once I have configured one of them or both, how has Evolution to be
 configured to use them (or to send to them)?

You need to setup a new account and as part of the config process you
set the Sending type to be Sendmail - unfortunately you don't seem to
be able to change the sending type after an account is configured.   The
account can have None as the receiving type so you don't have to
configure it to retrieve mail.

But first make sure that sendmail/msmtp/whatever is working properly
before trying to use it with Evolution.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-20 Thread Pete Biggs

 
  
 execve(/usr/bin/evolution, [evolution], [/* 85 vars */]) = 0
 brk(0)  = 0xce8000
 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
 0x7fe7bc733000
 access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
 directory)
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/x86_64/libevolution-shell.so, 
 O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/x86_64, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No 
 such file or directory)
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/libevolution-shell.so, 
 O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
 file or directory)
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/x86_64/libevolution-shell.so, 
 O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/x86_64, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
 file or directory)
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libevolution-shell.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 
 3
 .
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libical.so.1, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 .
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libedataserver-1.2.so.18, 
 O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 .
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libcamel-1.2.so.45, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 .
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libpthread.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 .
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libwebkitgtk-3.0.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 
 -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 .
 open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libgtk-3.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 
 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
  

They are all fine - it's just hunting around for the correct library -
so long as it finds the library eventually it doesn't matter.  For
instance libgtk-3.so.0 is probably in /usr/lib64 

  But the following line caught my eye in strace output:
  
 line 5619:  stat(/home/aguador/.evolution, 0x7e16f3e0) = -1 ENOENT (No 
 such file or directory)
  
  
 Why would this not be there? I installed Evo and Evo data server using
 Mageia's RPMDrake (omitting packages id'd as for development) and have
 assumed that this resulted in a complete installation, including
 dependencies.

~/.evolution is the old place that Evolution stored its data - Evolution
checks for the existence of that directory when it starts up to see if
anything needs to migrate.  It's good that that directory isn't there,

P.


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Re: [Evolution] black window areas

2014-02-20 Thread Christian
Hi,

I am having the exact same problem on Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 x64 running Gnome
3.10.2. Evolution has the same black areas as OP is asking about. It's the
only application with this problem. It doesn't matter which theme I use,
there's always these black areas around the mail preview window and when you
open mail in a separate window.  This problem is not present in Gnome 3.8.4.
I have spent a lot of time trying to find out what the problem is, but I
keep getting the same answer: something is wrong with your there. I'm not
sure all themes can have the exact same problem with one particular app. The
problem must be elsewhere. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: [Evolution] Best Distribution to self compile master?

2014-02-20 Thread Thomas Mittelstaedt
Am Mittwoch, den 19.02.2014, 11:52 +0400 schrieb Emre Erenoglu:
 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com
 wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 19:02 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  Is there a distribution that carries the latest versions of
  dependencies of Evo 3.12 (incl webkit), so that I can
 self-compile it
  without jhbuild? I shall be forced to replace only few
 system packages
  to prevent instability of the base system.
 
 
 I do most of my Evolution development on Debian Stable,
 cherry-picking
 newer libraries as needed from Debian Testing, and
 occasionally build
 (optional) bleeding-edge dependencies straight from git.
 
 I don't use jhbuild, I install built source code to a prefix
 under my
 home directory so as not to affect system stability, and I run
 the EDS
 D-Bus services manually from that install prefix.
 
 
 Thanks Matthew for your time, hope you would have little more time to
 respond to the below as well :)
 
 
 I tried this in Ubuntu but it started complaining about tons of
 dependencies to replace in the system, starting from Gnome3 related
 packages, webkit, fontconfig, glib, gnutls, gobject-introspection,
 gstreamer, gtk+, gvfs, libnotify, libsoup, librest, pango, polkit,
 etc.  etc.  Maybe these are not all needed...

Have you tried the command to install build dependencies for evolution:
apt-get build-dep evolution
That usually gets the basic libraries installed. The others you might
need to build manually into your $PREFIX build directory structure.
Also, you might consider building in a different directory than the 
source directories like:
$PREFIX/local/build
$PREFIX/local/src



 
 
 However, your message gave me new energy to try again :)  Maybe I can
 start on a beta Ubuntu 14.04 and try over there.
 
 
 So do I understand right that you configure stuff with;
 configure --prefix=$HOME/local  (for example), and then add built
 library paths to LD_LIBRARY_PATH before launching evo? 
 Also, how do you launch the ESD D-Bus services manually?
 
 
 Thanks a lot,
 Br,
 Emre
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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 16:41 -0500, Rick Leir wrote:
 Here is what u should see for Evo 2.8.22:
 $ ls -l ~/.evolution/

The OP is using Evolution 3.x. Btw. this GMX.com Web Mailer thingy the
OP is using breaks the thread with each reply, so it was not that funny
to search the reply that mentions Evolution 3.x.

I guess it won't help the OP, but this is how the directories look like
for 3.10.4 on my machine:

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -l ~/.config/evolution/
~/.local/share/evolution/
/home/rocketmouse/.config/evolution/:
total 60
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 26784 Feb 19 23:55 accels
drwx-- 3 rocketmouse rocketmouse  4096 Feb 20 13:19 addressbook
drwx-- 3 rocketmouse rocketmouse  4096 Feb  4 11:38 calendar
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse   372 Feb 20 14:10 cert_trees.ini
drwxr-xr-x 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse  4096 Feb 21 04:44 mail
drwx-- 3 rocketmouse rocketmouse  4096 Feb  4 11:38 memos
drwx-- 2 rocketmouse rocketmouse  4096 Dec 20 18:07 signatures
drwx-- 2 rocketmouse rocketmouse  4096 Feb  5 11:38 sources
drwx-- 3 rocketmouse rocketmouse  4096 Feb  4 11:38 tasks

/home/rocketmouse/.local/share/evolution/:
total 44
drwx-- 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Feb 19  2013 addressbook
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  107 Dec  6 01:44
backup-restore-dconf-eds.ini
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 5541 Dec  6 01:44
backup-restore-dconf-evo.ini
drwx-- 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Apr 22  2013 calendar
-rw--- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse  491 Feb 21  2013 camel-cert.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 3732 Dec 12  2011 categories.xml
drwxr-xr-x 9 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Dec  5 17:16 mail
drwx-- 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Apr 22  2013 memos
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse0 Aug 24 10:14 printing.ini
drwx-- 2 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Jul 26  2012 signatures
drwx-- 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Apr 22  2013 tasks

JFTR the packages have nothing to do with the content of
~/.config/evolution/ and ~/.local/share/evolution/. Packages neither
install, nor remove something to/from /home.

Search for the installed files using your package management. For Arch
Linux it's

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Ql evolution | grep home
evolution /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evolution-mail-composer/home.png
evolution /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evolution-mail-formatter/home.png
evolution /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evolution-shell/home.png
evolution /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evolution-util/home.png
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Ql evolution-data-server | grep home
evolution-data-server /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/camel/home.png
evolution-data-server /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libebackend/home.png
evolution-data-server /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libebook-contacts/home.png
evolution-data-server /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libebook/home.png
evolution-data-server /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libecal/home.png
evolution-data-server /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libedata-book/home.png
evolution-data-server /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libedata-cal/home.png
evolution-data-server /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libedataserver/home.png

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Re: [Evolution] Many mails never reach the recipients - Evolution 3.10.4

2014-02-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 23:09 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
 You need to setup a new account and as part of the config process you
 set the Sending type to be Sendmail - unfortunately you don't seem
 to be able to change the sending type after an account is configured.

:) Thank you, that explains my confusion.

So sendmail and msmtp are in conflict, since I suspect that Evolution
will use sendmail as a command.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Ql sendmail | grep bin/sendmail
sendmail /usr/bin/sendmail
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Ql msmtp | grep bin/sendmail
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ sudo pacman -Rs sendmail  sudo pacman -S msmtp-mta
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/sendmail
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jan 25 01:10 /usr/bin/sendmail - msmtp





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